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neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 11 @ 2:08 PM ET
EP out of the lineup and we see the need for more of everything.
- hillbillydeluxe

We've already showed more promise as a team than I thought there would be at this point, I'm going to the game against Buffalo on the 18th and Toronto on the 6th cause the team is exciting again, I just hope EP is in the lineup for both! But yeah, there are a lot of holes particularly on the backend.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 11 @ 2:10 PM ET
I think EP is a generational talent (Something posters on here seem to not think quite yet), I think Bo is our best all around player and we have a very solid 60 point winger in Boeser. Were a bad team, but are starting to get the young pieces you need. Our goaltending and D is among the worst in the NHL. After Edler/Tanev, we have AHL and bottom pair guys.
- neem55

Vancouver is about 20th in every category. So obviously there is about 10 teams that are suffering from the same problems as Van has. That's 1/3 of the league. A 1/3 of the league that has the same crap as Van has on their team.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jan 11 @ 2:14 PM ET
EP out of the lineup and we see the need for more of everything.
- hillbillydeluxe


100%

That stat they showed before OT where they score like 3 goals/game with him and 1.56 without highlights that Bo/Boeser aren't enough depth. They need more top-end talent
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 11 @ 2:17 PM ET
Vancouver is about 20th in every category. So obviously there is about 10 teams that are suffering from the same problems as Van has. That's 1/3 of the league. A 1/3 of the league that has the same crap as Van has on their team.
- manvanfan

Sure. Carolina probably has bad goaltending too, that's been their acchiles heel for years. I think teams like Philly and Carolina are just not playing to their full potential. Also, it's a tough league That top20 you're talking about is tough to crack but despite what you think i bleed blue and green were just not there yet and I am able to look at this lineup and be honest about it: there are 5-6 players carrying this team and that's about it.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jan 11 @ 2:19 PM ET
100%

That stat they showed before OT where they score like 3 goals/game with him and 1.56 without highlights that Bo/Boeser aren't enough depth. They need more top-end talent

- WhiteLie

EP is the only true creator of offence on the team. I don’t think coaches game plan against a Bo Horvat although he’s a ‘real good’ 200ft player. Boeser has a great shot but he’s not gonna dangle his way through a lineup.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 11 @ 2:27 PM ET
Sure. Carolina probably has bad goaltending too, that's been their acchiles heel for years. I think teams like Philly and Carolina are just not playing to their full potential. Also, it's a tough league That top20 you're talking about is tough to crack but despite what you think i bleed blue and green were just not there yet and I am able to look at this lineup and be honest about it: there are 5-6 players carrying this team and that's about it.
- neem55

I never doubted you bleed blue and green. I think you just over estimate the ability of other teams bottom pairing defenders compared to Hutton. Hutton as you put is an AHL defender.

Hutton on this team is basically being asked to be a 3. Hutton is not a 3.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jan 11 @ 2:28 PM ET
EP is the only true creator of offence on the team. I don’t think coaches game plan against a Bo Horvat although he’s a ‘real good’ 200ft player. Boeser has a great shot but he’s not gonna dangle his way through a lineup.
- golfingsince


Agreed, I think the game prep for Horvat and Boeser are fairly simple/standard, Pettersson's likely requires some thought
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 11 @ 2:31 PM ET
I never doubted you bleed blue and green. I think you just over estimate the ability of other teams bottom pairing defenders compared to Hutton. Hutton as you put is an AHL defender.

Hutton on this team is basically being asked to be a 3. Hutton is not a 3.

- manvanfan

I think he's a bottom pair guy yes. He's been played top4 way too much for my liking but honestly we simply don't have guys that can play that spot. But I also don't thin k bottom pair guys are very difficult to find and I'm tired of watching him play those minutes as a fan. Guddy is in the same boat, I think they are both not capable of taking on top6 lines.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 11 @ 2:36 PM ET
I think he's a bottom pair guy yes. He's been played top4 way too much for my liking but honestly we simply don't have guys that can play that spot. But I also don't thin k bottom pair guys are very difficult to find and I'm tired of watching him play those minutes as a fan. Guddy is in the same boat, I think they are both not capable of taking on top6 lines.
- neem55

Then we agree on why the team isn't very good. They don't have enough talent and are asking players to play up the line up and they aren't capable.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 11 @ 2:41 PM ET
Sens trade Paul Carey to BOS for Cody Goloubef
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 11 @ 2:42 PM ET
So much hate in here this morning, I'm full.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 11 @ 2:44 PM ET
You have zero hockey IQ
- CanuckDon

Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 11 @ 2:45 PM ET
So much hate in here this morning, I'm full.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Markstrom is actually a good Goalie
Gudbranson is actually a good defenseman
And Granlund deserves to play the entire OT w/ Sutter

we need to keep this going.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 11 @ 2:55 PM ET
Markstrom is actually a good Goalie
Gudbranson is actually a good defenseman
And Granlund deserves to play the entire OT w/ Sutter

we need to keep this going.

- Codes1087



Schizophrenia. Schizophrenia is a mental health condition characterized by delusions, hallucinations, and a difficulty distinguishing reality from fantasy.

You may need help.

Oh! and a pair of these

CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Jan 11 @ 2:58 PM ET
Right...thx Cuban!!
- LordHumungous


No problem. Glad you enjoyed it.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jan 11 @ 2:59 PM ET
You have zero hockey IQ
- CanuckDon


Takes one to know one.


Also, i'm rubber, you're glue, everything bad bounces off me, and sticks to you.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 11 @ 3:00 PM ET
Schizophrenia. Schizophrenia is a mental health condition characterized by delusions, hallucinations, and a difficulty distinguishing reality from fantasy.

You may need help.

Oh! and a pair of these


- A_SteamingLombardi


lol hockeybuzz has become a bit of a spectator sport when people get excited about things that are kind of irrelevant. Like cousin Eddie said in National Lampoons Christmas vacation, "once they start laying into you, its best just to let them finish"
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Jan 11 @ 3:03 PM ET
Thursday's game was a bit odd but it was also a surprisingly engaging night at the rink, considering it was a January game against Arizona.

I think it felt good just to have everybody cheering for the same team again?

Anyway, the new blog is now live:

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...to-Rogers-Arena/194/97093
Nucknab23
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 01.13.2016

Jan 11 @ 3:06 PM ET
lol hockeybuzz has become a bit of a spectator sport when people get excited about things that are kind of irrelevant. Like cousin Eddie said in National Lampoons Christmas vacation, "once they start laying into you, its best just to let them finish"
- Codes1087

Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Jan 11 @ 3:31 PM ET
Agreed, I think the game prep for Horvat and Boeser are fairly simple/standard, Pettersson's likely requires some thought
- WhiteLie


Bo's great but he "efforts" his points. I don't think anyone would really credit his scoring to a creative offensive style.

And Boeser is a shooter, and without other shooting threats he becomes infinitely easier to defend.

I really want Mark Stone on this team.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 11 @ 8:00 PM ET
I saw your claims, you have appreciate confounding variables properly if you want to derive things from stats. Otherwise people who look at stats for a living will say your claim isn't valid. Kinda like I did right there, because that's what I do for a living.
- neem55


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