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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 14 @ 8:58 PM ET
Forsberg has 18 goals already
Johanson has 40 pts
They also have 2 goaltenders who can make saves so you know

- bulet13


But scoring goals, teams that have the highest goal scorers always win, defense doesn't matter. A goal is a goal.
flyers20032002
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jan 14 @ 8:59 PM ET
Wowy is a really bad stat and an awful way to look at and compare players. It's not really that difficult to analyze JVR as a player.
- MJL


Depends on the data and sample size.

edit: By the way, thanks for your great insight as always.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 14 @ 8:59 PM ET
Oh I heard about that. Didn't realize it was Shawn tho. Woof.
- hereticpride

Yep, originally they were saying it was Farzetta but nope it was Shawny

With the history of the Flyers and Native Americans it can't be good for him.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 14 @ 9:01 PM ET
Depends on the data and sample size.
- flyers20032002


No, it's a bad stat and if you're using that as a primary tool then methods need to be reassessed.
flyers20032002
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jan 14 @ 9:02 PM ET
No, it's a bad stat and if you're using that as a primary tool then methods need to be reassessed.
- MJL


You didn't read my post per usual. You saw something stat related and then went into a frenzy. Thanks.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 14 @ 9:03 PM ET
You didn't read my post per usual. You saw something stat related and then went into a frenzy. Thanks.
- flyers20032002


I read your post, wasn't much to it. Hockey is really not that complicated of a game. Don't need a bunch of stats and detailed analysis or in depth study to see what kind of a player any player is.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 14 @ 9:04 PM ET
Nolan up here!!!
flyers20032002
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jan 14 @ 9:07 PM ET
I read your post, wasn't much to it. Hockey is really not that complicated of a game. Don't need a bunch of stats and detailed analysis or in depth study to see what kind of a player any player is.
- MJL


I guess you have reading comprehension issues then....

I'd probably start to look at https://hockeyviz.com/wowyMaps/ for at least a high level overview of how players fair with JvR and without him in general, start to look at more individual numbers, and tape
- flyers20032002
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 14 @ 9:08 PM ET
But scoring goals, teams that have the highest goal scorers always win, defense doesn't matter. A goal is a goal.
- Glak18


Nashville is 8th in the league in goals scored
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 14 @ 9:09 PM ET
I guess you have reading comprehension issues then....
- flyers20032002


I read exactly what you said. Wasn't hard to comprehend. I pointed out the flaws in it.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jan 14 @ 9:10 PM ET
Really Budreau's fault. He should have known backup goalies are the Flyer's weakness
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 14 @ 9:14 PM ET
Is weise playing?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 14 @ 9:15 PM ET
Is weise playing?
- bulet13

no he's faking injury so he's not traded
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jan 14 @ 9:16 PM ET
Great zone presence......and then they give it to Simmonds
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 14 @ 9:17 PM ET
no he's faking injury so he's not traded
- 2Real

Knights need a horse for their jousting promotion?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 14 @ 9:18 PM ET
Nashville is 8th in the league in goals scored
- bulet13


Yeah I wonder how many players they have on their roster that float around the ice...but Rinne and Saros is the difference.

Judge how the player plays, not their stat line. Give me a team that works hard, plays defense and has balance scoring because all their players provide something positive for the team to win.

Did Nashville even have a 30 goal scorer last year? I think they were pretty good.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 14 @ 9:19 PM ET
no he's faking injury so he's not traded
- 2Real


Maybe he was traded and the team demanded that he sit out not to damage their goods.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 14 @ 9:22 PM ET
Obvious goaltender interference.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 14 @ 9:23 PM ET
That looks like Hagg pushed.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 14 @ 9:23 PM ET
That's no goal...

Staal was going without Hagg.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 14 @ 9:23 PM ET
the NHL doesn't want us to win the lottery for hughes
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 14 @ 9:24 PM ET
This is an absurd game
flyers20032002
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jan 14 @ 9:24 PM ET
That looks like Hagg pushed.
- hereticpride

Looks like he was pushed, but who knows
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jan 14 @ 9:24 PM ET
Gonna be a goal either way based on the wild challenge.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 14 @ 9:25 PM ET
Looks like he was pushed, but who knows
- flyers20032002


The key is watching Hagg's arms, never fully extended...unless Hagg is stronger than Chara.
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