Agreed....imagine if Kassian and Lucic both got a hatty.....
- RatedR80

That would trigger the apocalypse

If I was a fan I would agree 100%, but if they make a trade in the next month that could improve the team at least 3m+ has to be moved in the trade or before.

You know damn well Chia is going to make a trade in the next month to save himself.
- Glak18

That last line is why he should be fired now....trades should be done to improve the team not to save your ass

Weird weird night...

Hat Trick for JvR...

2 goals for Simmonds...

4 point night for Patrick...

Now Lucic

That last line is why he should be fired now....trades should be done to improve the team not to save your ass
- RatedR80

But will he be fired 2 points out of a playoff spot?

Weird weird night...

Hat Trick for JvR...

2 goals for Simmonds...

4 point night for Patrick...

Now Lucic
- Glak18

Lucic for JVR

I could see Edmonton making that swap, but that's not to say it's even close to a good trade. Simmonds has been pretty brutal the last three years.
- MaximumBone

No need to look into such a trade honestly. Simmonds would have been a great add a few years back, but I fear age will get the best of him due to his list of injuries (which will only catch up due to his playing style). For his own sake, I hope I'm wrong. But unless he is a FA add on the cheap... it would take decent assets that I'm not willing to trade away for acquiring him.... which leads me to...

Define brutal though???

Seems to me that he is doing alright at this point in his career and the last few years. He has had to deal with a plethora of injuries the last few seasons and he has even played through some as well, all the while posting respectable numbers. His advanced stat metrics are solid/decent as well.

This isn't to say that I would want him though due to the price he would cost and my gamble on how he will most likely decline rather quickly in his 30's.

Another thing to mention is that the Flyers aren't really playing great hockey either. They play like a team that can't seem to gel atm. They've got great youngsters coming up, along with an aging core that can still do some damage, but until they can find their edges, they will look like a mess, as a team.

But will he be fired 2 points out of a playoff spot?
- Glak18

No playoffs is no playoffs....close doesn’t count in hockey standings

Lucic for JVR
- MaximumBone

Only if Lucic has a 4 goal game...

No playoffs is no playoffs....close doesn’t count in hockey standings
- RatedR80

So he will do EVERYTHING to make the playoffs *evil giggle*

So he will do EVERYTHING to make the playoffs *evil giggle*
- Glak18

Haven’t we suffered enough?

That would trigger the apocalypse
- Reveen.

I really do want a Lucic hatty tho

Haven’t we suffered enough?
- RatedR80

*looks at NHL draft from 2010 to 2015*


...

I really do want a Lucic hatty tho
- RatedR80

The Apocalypse would ensure no cup for Toronto or Calgary

*looks at NHL draft from 2010 to 2015*


...
- Glak18

(frank) that....go back to when this began back after the 05/06 season....1 playoff appearance since

The Apocalypse would ensure no cup for Toronto or Calgary
- Reveen.

🖕😁🖕

The Apocalypse would ensure no cup for Toronto or Calgary
- Reveen.

Play them both for the rest of the game with McDavid....sorry Drai you get bumped

No need to look into such a trade honestly. Simmonds would have been a great add a few years back, but I fear age will get the best of him due to his list of injuries (which will only catch up due to his playing style). For his own sake, I hope I'm wrong. But unless he is a FA add on the cheap... it would take decent assets that I'm not willing to trade away for acquiring him.... which leads me to...

Define brutal though???

Seems to me that he is doing alright at this point in his career and the last few. He has had to deal with a plethora of injuries the last few seasons and he has even played through some as well, all the while posting respectable numbers. His advanced stat metrics are solid/decent as well.

Another thing to mention is that the Flyers aren't really playing great hockey either. They play like a team that can't seem to gel atm. They've got great youngsters coming up, along with an aging core that can still do some damage, but until they can find their edges, they will look like a mess, as a team.
- EdmHockeyMan

My issue is that his results are consistently subpar. A cumulative team-relative GF% of -8.03 is 3rd worst over the last three seasons with only Filppula and Lehtera falling below him among players with over 500mins (41.5% GF, 41.8% GF and 44.9% GF the past three years).

Further, his teammates consistently have FAR better GFs when away from Simmonds so unless you're suggesting he's being misused as THE shutdown pillar akin to a guy like Kruger, then something's wrong. All this while not really facing particularly difficult competition and not being hung out to dry on linemates, either. Consistent time with guys like Voracek, JVR, Giroux interspersed with time with guys like Weal and Patrick.

Then you have his age and style of play.

Combine all that with unspectacular possession numbers brings me to the conclusion that something about his game at 5-on-5 is seriously and fundamentally flawed.

The Apocalypse would ensure no cup for Toronto or Calgary
- Reveen.

Can't let the snake win

7-2 with 2 goals from Kassian and Lucic.....Vancouver is going to destroy us aren’t they?

7-2 with 2 goals from Kassian and Lucic.....Vancouver is going to destroy us aren’t they?
- RatedR80

Oh the amount of souls sold to the devil by your team for the Looch goals alone will damn you forever...😈

Oh the amount of souls sold to the devil by your team for the Looch goals alone will damn you forever...
- Flamin_Irishmin

I think most lost their souls when it was announced that we won the McDavid draft

My issue is that his results are consistently subpar. A cumulative team-relative GF% of -8.03 is 3rd worst over the last three seasons with only Filppula and Lehtera falling below him among players with over 500mins (41.5% GF, 41.8% GF and 44.9% GF the past three years).

Further, his teammates consistently have FAR better GFs when away from Simmonds so unless you're suggesting he's being misused as THE shutdown pillar akin to a guy like Kruger, then something's wrong. All this while not really facing particularly difficult competition and not being hung out to dry on linemates, either. Consistent time with guys like Voracek, JVR, Giroux interspersed with time with guys like Weal and Patrick.

Then you have his age and style of play.

Combine all that with unspectacular possession numbers brings me to the conclusion that something about his game at 5-on-5 is seriously and fundamentally flawed.
- MaximumBone

I'll have a think and let you know later tomorrow on my thoughts on the matter at hand. Too tired atm. Perhaps Glak can provide us with his opinion of Simmonds as well?

Initial thoughts on the matter seem to be that you may be putting too much stock on advanced stats. Simmonds seems to be a case where (usually) his advanced stats are meh, but he does well via the eye test. I will yield that previous injuries and age are catching up to him. However, I wanna look further and see some more footage of him 5-on-5 for analyzation before I make a conclusive opinion. I also want to see his GF% numbers when away from some notable teammates as well.

I think most lost their souls when it was announced that we won the McDavid draft
- RatedR80

Yeah. That is true.

If Lucic scored another one, I would have (frank)ed off forever.

Hopefullyhis mind is cleared and he returns to 2016-17 Lucic. Won't happen, but one can dream.

OOF!
- EnzoD

winning... it's so easy a cave man can do it....