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Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jan 16 @ 2:06 PM ET
Yes, yes he did.
- walshyleafsfan

I recall it being a Marner for Nurse deal, not Tanev, and it was just an idea, not a rumour
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jan 16 @ 2:08 PM ET
I recall it being a Marner for Nurse deal, not Tanev, and it was just an idea, not a rumour
- Archaic

It was Tanev, i found it on YouTube.

It's actually quite shocking he was wide of the mark he was when talking about Mitch and Babcock (for someone in the know).

It was a suggestion, not a rumour.

Said he doesn't see Marner finding a spot on the team. Not sure where the fit with the Leafs could be.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jan 16 @ 2:09 PM ET
I would have gone with this:



But I still like the cut of your jib, Petesie.

- Atomic Wedgie

A friend of a friend actually stole that painting in '94!
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Jan 16 @ 2:30 PM ET
Do GMs tell the media what other teams are doing?

If so, which is possible, can you tweet LeBrun to ask GMs what Matthews and Marner are gonna make? And what the plan is for Point and Rantanen?

Cheers

- walshyleafsfan

C'mon only leaders get offered sheeted..
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jan 16 @ 2:40 PM ET
The Canes are really messing up a corsi sweep
- senstroll



CF%?

walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jan 16 @ 2:42 PM ET
If we go under the assumption that Florida are never actually going to make the playoffs again (despite being sleepers every year) and they're not trying to, what would it take to get Barkov?

Nylander, Kadri and a 3rd?
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jan 16 @ 2:44 PM ET
If we go under the assumption that Florida are never actually going to make the playoffs again (despite being sleepers every year) and they're not trying to, what would it take to get Barkov?

Nylander, Kadri and a 3rd?

- walshyleafsfan


Probably untouchable. I'm sure they've seen Nylander in action too.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 16 @ 2:44 PM ET
If we go under the assumption that Florida are never actually going to make the playoffs again (despite being sleepers every year) and they're not trying to, what would it take to get Barkov?

Nylander, Kadri and a 3rd?

- walshyleafsfan


That would be someting.

I would say whatever it would cost to trade for Matthews is about the cost of Barkov
plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Jan 16 @ 2:45 PM ET
question for the 'keep the Nylander' crew:

which players would you trade Nylander for in a one-for-one deal?

- McDavid
- ??
- ??
etc?
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jan 16 @ 2:45 PM ET
Probably untouchable. I'm sure they've seen Nylander in action too.
- Garnie

I just assume they're not even trying to win though. So basically 2 players for 1. And they get to announce another draft pick, and everyone can go, oh (frank), yeah that's the other team in Florida.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jan 16 @ 2:48 PM ET
question for the 'keep the Nylander' crew:

which players would you trade Nylander for in a one-for-one deal?

- McDavid
- ??
- ??
etc?

- plantheparade



Any of these guys (except Gardiner):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NHL_players
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jan 16 @ 2:48 PM ET
If we go under the assumption that Florida are never actually going to make the playoffs again (despite being sleepers every year) and they're not trying to, what would it take to get Barkov?

Nylander, Kadri and a 3rd?

- walshyleafsfan


Marner
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 16 @ 2:50 PM ET
question for the 'keep the Nylander' crew:

which players would you trade Nylander for in a one-for-one deal?

- McDavid
- ??
- ??
etc?

- plantheparade


I am in the keep willy camp, but the list is long. too long to waste time on
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jan 16 @ 2:56 PM ET
It was Tanev, i found it on YouTube.

It's actually quite shocking he was wide of the mark he was when talking about Mitch and Babcock (for someone in the know).

It was a suggestion, not a rumour.

Said he doesn't see Marner finding a spot on the team. Not sure where the fit with the Leafs could be.

- walshyleafsfan


He said Nurse as well https://www.sportsnet.ca/...arnell-nurse-trade-tweet/

All awful suggestions
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jan 16 @ 2:58 PM ET
The Canes are really messing up a corsi sweep
- senstroll



bump....which stat..just straight up CF%?
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jan 16 @ 2:59 PM ET
not bad for a 5th rounder from Russia
- 21peter

Back then they were all late rounders.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 16 @ 3:01 PM ET
bump....which stat..just straight up CF%?
- Garnie


Probably..but he didnt say in the tweet.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 16 @ 3:03 PM ET
Muzzin came up yesterday from a Sens fan trade proposal.. wait and someone will do the work.

https://theathletic.com/7...-potential-trade-targets/

looks like he is still pretty effective.

Simmonds...not so much
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jan 16 @ 3:04 PM ET
Probably..but he didnt say in the tweet.
- senstroll


Must be something else....few teams in the top 16 that aren't in the playoffs.

Maybe score adjusted...how does Score Adjusted work?
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jan 16 @ 3:06 PM ET
Back then they were all late rounders.
- bobbyisno1

way to ruin it with f'n facts
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 16 @ 3:06 PM ET
A friend of a friend actually stole that painting in '94!
- 21peter

That must be quite a story to tell over beers.

“Thousand thanks for the bad security!”
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jan 16 @ 3:07 PM ET
That must be quite a story to tell over beers.

“Thousand thanks for the bad security!”

- Atomic Wedgie

yup!
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 16 @ 3:12 PM ET
Must be something else....few teams in the top 16 that aren't in the playoffs.

Maybe score adjusted...how does Score Adjusted work?

- Garnie


maybe Score and Venue Adjusted Fenwick?

https://www.naturalstattr...ck.com/glossary.php?teams

https://hockeyviz.com/txt/senstats

also not sure what source he is using..
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jan 16 @ 3:14 PM ET
maybe Score and Venue Adjusted Fenwick?

https://www.naturalstattr...ck.com/glossary.php?teams

https://hockeyviz.com/txt/senstats

also not sure what source he is using..

- senstroll


ya maybe...I see Philly StL Arizona STL Carolina all in the top 16 of straight CF% which i've read people no longer use for much....remember when it was the thing.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 16 @ 3:17 PM ET
ya maybe...I see Philly StL Arizona STL Carolina all in the top 16 of straight CF% which i've read people no longer use for much....remember when it was the thing.
- Garnie


although he does say corsi..so I am not sure

doesnt matter. just watch the game
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