Paul coffey was traded 7 times

that proves nothing..sometimes it happens
- senstroll

How many rumours of his poor behaviour did Coffey have? None.

When I hire people, the first thing I do is find out if they can actually do the job I'm hiring for. If I think that they can, then I find out if they're a fit for the culture of the company. No matter how good the first part is, if they can't fit in then I don't hire them. Period. It never works out well for anyone.

How many rumours of his poor behaviour did Coffey have? None.

When I hire people, the first thing I do is find out if they can actually do the job I'm hiring for. If I think that they can, then I find out if they're a fit for the culture of the company. No matter how good the first part is, if they can't fit in then I don't hire them. Period. It never works out well for anyone.
- TrashPanda

That's some hawt adulting right there hon. *fires up the hub*

How many rumours of his poor behaviour did Coffey have? None.

When I hire people, the first thing I do is find out if they can actually do the job I'm hiring for. If I think that they can, then I find out if they're a fit for the culture of the company. No matter how good the first part is, if they can't fit in then I don't hire them. Period. It never works out well for anyone.
- TrashPanda

Do you also tell other employers not to hire an employee because he’s worked 3 jobs in 5 years? Even though you don’t have a clue about anything else about the person?

Do you also tell other employers not to hire an employee because he’s worked 3 jobs in 5 years? Even though you don’t have a clue about anything else about the person?
- Santo_44

That isn't a fair comparison. However, I'll bet Dubas knows the situation. It is his job, after all...

That isn't a fair comparison. However, I'll bet Dubas knows the situation. It is his job, after all...
- TrashPanda

Yeah but that’s what I’m saying. It’s unfair to say Hamilton is unfit to play on any team when we as fans have no clue what he’s like as a person or the culture of every team. Every group of guys are different.

So that’s up to Dubas to decide if he can fit here. I haven’t really ever seen a non fan made rumour that the Leafs have interest in Hamilton. So maybe Dubas has already made up his mind.

Do you also tell other employers not to hire an employee because he’s worked 3 jobs in 5 years? Even though you don’t have a clue about anything else about the person?
- Santo_44

If I look at the resume of a prospective employee and see that they have changed employers several times in a short span of time I usually tear up their application into shreds. YMMV.

If I look at the resume of a prospective employee and see that they have changed employers several times in a short span of time I usually tear up their application into shreds. YMMV.
- mjones242

Same.

If I look at the resume of a prospective employee and see that they have changed employers several times in a short span of time I usually tear up their application into shreds. YMMV.
- mjones242

I usually take them out back and shoot them...

If I look at the resume of a prospective employee and see that they have changed employers several times in a short span of time I usually tear up their application into shreds. YMMV.
- mjones242

I don't think 3 times in 5 years would stop me from talking to someone, but I would want to know why. If they squirm a bit when answering the question, then the interview is essentially over. If it was 3 times in something like 2 years then I wouldn't even consider them. I think it would depend on the industry - changing jobs like that is common in the service industry, for example.

I usually take them out back and shoot them...
- 21peter

What a waste of good ammunition...

What a waste of good ammunition...
- TrashPanda

lmao

If I look at the resume of a prospective employee and see that they have changed employers several times in a short span of time I usually tear up their application into shreds. YMMV.
- mjones242

Imo that’s a bad way of doing it....unless you are a huge company that gets in hundreds of resumes a month then yeah maybe.

But there are many reasons why someone could have 3 jobs in 5 years. There are some bad companies out there as there are bad employees...and until hearing why you are just missing out on a potentially great applicant.

But also yeah, like Trashypoo said. Depends on the industry as well.

Imo that’s a bad way of doing it....unless you are a huge company that gets in hundreds of resumes a month then yeah maybe.

But there are many reasons why someone could have 3 jobs in 5 years. There are some bad companies out there as there are bad employees...and until hearing why you are just missing out on a potentially great applicant.

But also yeah, like Trashypoo said. Depends on the industry as well.
- Santo_44

Even if you're a small company, it's often better to let a job go unfilled then to just hire someone because they submitted a resume. Once you do it for a while you get to know what to look for and you will avoid those scenarios like the plague. Frequent job changes is a huge one.

Even if you're a small company, it's often better to let a job go unfilled then to just hire someone because they submitted a resume. Once you do it for a while you get to know what to look for and you will avoid those scenarios like the plague. Frequent job changes is a huge one.
- TrashPanda

Depends what industry. I have some friends in the trades that have quit on a Friday and got a new job on the Monday.

Imo that’s a bad way of doing it....unless you are a huge company that gets in hundreds of resumes a month then yeah maybe.

But there are many reasons why someone could have 3 jobs in 5 years. There are some bad companies out there as there are bad employees...and until hearing why you are just missing out on a potentially great applicant.

But also yeah, like Trashypoo said. Depends on the industry as well.
- Santo_44

I suppose it all depends on how many resumes are sitting on my desk. If there's very few applicants for the position I might consider a phone interview. If there's many applicants their resume immediately ends up in the trash bin.

Assuming the former, at the very least, I would be doing some sleuthing with their past employers to see if I can finagle some information out of them about their performance. If they give me a curt reply of: yes, Person X worked for us between the period of x and y I'll have my answer.

Having said that, this is the NHL and it's a very small world with a lot of inbreeding. Hamilton's overstayed his welcome at least twice and it's looking like maybe three times now. Something smells fishy and I wonder if he is traded again if the return won't be in the realm of a Noah Hanifin...

Depends what industry. I have some friends in the trades that have quit on a Friday and got a new job on the Monday.
- Santo_44

Yeah, the trades are different because employers are screaming for help. Still, with a non-union shop, prospective employers are going to question it if it happens too much. Even the union hall is going to call you in if you quit too many jobs. In my industry it's a huge problem.

It does make sense. I've heard every single Leafs forward mentioned as well as all prospects and all picks are/have been in play as well. Doesn't seem like Dubas is too bothered about which players, picks and prospects are being moved.

Hopefully, he's moved past the Marner for Gudbranson deal one of the hockey "insiders" suggested he was possibly looking at.
- walshyleafsfan

Leafs would have to add. Big, tough skilled defensemen do not grow on trees. Under-sized wingers are a dime a dozen.

I suppose it all depends on how many resumes are sitting on my desk. If there's very few applicants for the position I might consider a phone interview. If there's many applicants their resume immediately ends up in the trash bin.

Assuming the former, at the very least, I would be doing some sleuthing with their past employers to see if I can finagle some information out of them about their performance. If they give me a curt reply of: yes, Person X worked for us between the period of x and y I'll have my answer.

Having said that, this is the NHL and it's a very small world with a lot of inbreeding. Hamilton's overstayed his welcome at least twice and it's looking like maybe three times now. Something smells fishy and I wonder if he is traded again if the return won't be in the realm of a Noah Hanifin...
- mjones242

Employers often have a policy of not saying anything due to liability issues, so a lot of them are going to say that. I like to ask the prospective employee, if they squirm a bit or break off eye contact then I have my answer.

I'm sure that Dubas knows what the deal with Hamilton is, and I would be shocked at this point if he isn't damaged goods. The fact that there hasn't been any solid rumours about him is telling.

Muzzin came up yesterday from a Sens fan trade proposal.. wait and someone will do the work.

https://theathletic.com/7...-potential-trade-targets/

looks like he is still pretty effective.

Simmonds...not so much
- senstroll

Simmonds is going to Lucic some GM right up the pooper this off-season.

Employers often have a policy of not saying anything due to liability issues, so a lot of them are going to say that. I like to ask the prospective employee, if they squirm a bit or break off eye contact then I have my answer.

I'm sure that Dubas knows what the deal with Hamilton is, and I would be shocked at this point if he isn't damaged goods. The fact that there hasn't been any solid rumours about him is telling.
- TrashPanda

There are some employers that will refuse to answer any questions beyond employment dates but, in my experience, most will give you more if they have an affinity for the former employee.

As per questions for the prospective employee, I echo your tactics and observation technique. Most people are terrible liars and it's not too difficult to pick up on evasive answers or telling body language.

Simmonds is going to Lucic some GM right up the pooper this off-season.
- Aetherial

So true!

Maybe Chia?

So true!

Maybe Chia?
- mjones242

Dorion?

Bergevin?

I suppose it all depends on how many resumes are sitting on my desk. If there's very few applicants for the position I might consider a phone interview. If there's many applicants their resume immediately ends up in the trash bin.

Assuming the former, at the very least, I would be doing some sleuthing with their past employers to see if I can finagle some information out of them about their performance. If they give me a curt reply of: yes, Person X worked for us between the period of x and y I'll have my answer.

Having said that, this is the NHL and it's a very small world with a lot of inbreeding. Hamilton's overstayed his welcome at least twice and it's looking like maybe three times now. Something smells fishy and I wonder if he is traded again if the return won't be in the realm of a Noah Hanifin...
- mjones242

Yeah, Friedman said he doesn’t think the Leafs are in on hamilton but are in on just about every other D man available.

Hamilton probably won’t get traded to the Leafs but that could change.

Yeah, the trades are different because employers are screaming for help. Still, with a non-union shop, prospective employers are going to question it if it happens too much. Even the union hall is going to call you in if you quit too many jobs. In my industry it's a huge problem.
- TrashPanda

Yeah, it’s going to only get worse. I heard from someone the government is considering paying for schooling for trades schools so more young kids get into it.

Yeah, it’s going to only get worse. I heard from someone the government is considering paying for schooling for trades schools so more young kids get into it.
- Santo_44

Which is exactly what the government should be doing.