What the hell would anyone want Kadri for
- SABRES 89

It’s what all the cool kids are doing.

I wonder what production he'd even have here though. He's been a product of environment to some extent.
- RhinoFan

I don’t really want him but he would be an upgrade over those guys.
I say let Toronto dig their own grave. If someone trades for Nylander and does them that favor I’m gonna be pissed.

I don’t really want him but he would be an upgrade over those guys.
I say let Toronto dig their own grave. If someone trades for Nylander and does them that favor I’m gonna be pissed.
- TheHank

Yeah, probably a non issue. Big trades within division are rare. TO knows we need scoring, we know they need defense, I doubt that either side is interested helping the other. Still, I just wonder if Kadri would be that much better. He won't have the wingers to fly with any longer. How much does that effect him? Dk to be honest. He'd get more minutes here...

At that contract Nylander will be a tough trade. I wouldn't be surprised if he's moved for peanuts this offseason. 3pts in 17g, if that doesn't change, even though I expect it to, that's a worse value than Okposo currently...

Yeah, probably a non issue. Big trades within division are rare. TO knows we need scoring, we know they need defense, I doubt that either side is interested helping the other. Still, I just wonder if Kadri would be that much better. He won't have the wingers to fly with any longer. How much does that effect him? Dk to be honest. He'd get more minutes here...

At that contract Nylander will be a tough trade. I wouldn't be surprised if he's moved for peanuts this offseason. 3pts in 17g, if that doesn't change, even though I expect it to, that's a worse value than Okposo currently...
- RhinoFan

I really hope they can’t move him for peanuts and m&m ask for $22.5M combined.

Yeah, probably a non issue. Big trades within division are rare. TO knows we need scoring, we know they need defense, I doubt that either side is interested helping the other. Still, I just wonder if Kadri would be that much better. He won't have the wingers to fly with any longer. How much does that effect him? Dk to be honest. He'd get more minutes here...

At that contract Nylander will be a tough trade. I wouldn't be surprised if he's moved for peanuts this offseason. 3pts in 17g, if that doesn't change, even though I expect it to, that's a worse value than Okposo currently...
- RhinoFan

The one thing we share in common with Toronto. The Nylander Syndrome.

The one thing we share in common with Toronto. The Nylander Syndrome.
- Sabre_Tooth

I’d take these 3 Calgary players in a heartbeat over these 3 Sabre players
Calgary
Johnny G. 25 years old 6,750,000 over next 3 seasons 27 goals 69 points
Sean M 24 years old 6,375,000 over next 4 seasons 25 goals 69 points
Matt T 23 years old guessing 7,000,000 over 8 seasons 23 goals 51 points

Buffalo
Jack E 22 years old 10,000,000 over 7 seasons 15 goals 49 points
Kyle O 30 years old 6,000,000 over next 4 seasons 7 goals 18 points
Jeff S 27 years old guessing 8,000,000 over next 7 s. 30 goals 44 points

Face it Kyle O is a tremendous bust. Skinner will be wayyyy overpaid and will start to regress real soon because of his age….I’d trade him at the deadline and see if they can sign him for about 7 mil in the off season

The one thing we share in common with Toronto. The Nylander Syndrome.
- Sabre_Tooth

TO's Nylander

17 GP
1 G
2 A
-6

I’d take these 3 Calgary players in a heartbeat over these 3 Sabre players
Calgary
Johnny G. 25 years old 6,750,000 over next 3 seasons 27 goals 69 points
Sean M 24 years old 6,375,000 over next 4 seasons 25 goals 69 points
Matt T 23 years old guessing 7,000,000 over 8 seasons 23 goals 51 points

Buffalo
Jack E 22 years old 10,000,000 over 7 seasons 15 goals 49 points
Kyle O 30 years old 6,000,000 over next 4 seasons 7 goals 18 points
Jeff S 27 years old guessing 8,000,000 over next 7 s. 30 goals 44 points

Face it Kyle O is a tremendous bust. Skinner will be wayyyy overpaid and will start to regress real soon because of his age….I’d trade him at the deadline and see if they can sign him for about 7 mil in the off season
- pwasil7

"Face it Kyle O is a tremendous bust" everyone knows this, you will find 0 argument except those that point out his health concerns, which are truly unfortunate.

"Skinner will be wayyyy overpaid and will start to regress real soon because of his age" - this is pure speculation. I think based on the way he plays and skates, he will continue to produce well into his 30's

"sign him for about 7 mil in the off season" ummmm 0% chance that he hits the open market and signs for 7M. He's second in the league in goals right now.

"Face it Kyle O is a tremendous bust" everyone knows this, you will find 0 argument except those that point out his health concerns, which are truly unfortunate.

"Skinner will be wayyyy overpaid and will start to regress real soon because of his age" - this is pure speculation. I think based on the way he plays and skates, he will continue to produce well into his 30's

"sign him for about 7 mil in the off season" ummmm 0% chance that he hits the open market and signs for 7M. He's second in the league in goals right now.
- Angler

If he wants 9M let someone else pay him. Sorry, not sorry

If he wants 9M let someone else pay him. Sorry, not sorry
- TheHank

I'd pay 8.75M

What's your top $, assuming max length of the term?

If anyone here thinks any team sees a sabres d as an upgrade over their own, except for 26, you're all as clueless about hockey as you all sound eveyday.

Including Risto. He's a mess

If anyone here thinks any team sees a sabres d as an upgrade over their own, except for 26, you're all as clueless about hockey as you all sound eveyday.

Including Risto. He's a mess
- RippedFuel

Cool bro

Hopefully calgary heads into this game thinking their all that and a bag of chips.

I really hope they can’t move him for peanuts and m&m ask for $22.5M combined.
- TheHank

Hoping for the same myself.

Hopefully calgary heads into this game thinking their all that and a bag of chips.
- Boss34

I can definitely see them underestimating us. McCabe seemed pretty fired up. We have a long history of coming back charging after a blow out. We shall see.

I'd pay 8.75M

What's your top $, assuming max length of the term?
- Angler

I’m not dogging him here, but he is a one dimensional player, a finisher. The play dies a lot with the puck on his stick away from scoring areas. Forget defense.
Over 7 years, 8M. I don’t like long term deals.
Even then I think it’s a bit of an overpayment but I can stomach it.

6-2, Flames

If anyone here thinks any team sees a sabres d as an upgrade over their own, except for 26, you're all as clueless about hockey as you all sound eveyday.

Including Risto. He's a mess
- RippedFuel

I can name you 30 other franchises that will take ristolainen over one of their top 6.

- TheHank

Our syndrome looks like a better condition than theirs... as of now... *sigh*

I agree, with everything you said here...

- gordong

Jbotts changed 9 or 10 players from last years roster this off season

Skinner
Hutton
Ullmark
Sheary
Sobotka
Tagecakes
Dahlin
Pilut
*McCabe and bogo from ir
Hudwick
Mitts

This offseason- expect more changes

Hoping for the same myself.
- RhinoFan

They have ten roster spots to fill next year and about 23M to do it. If they can’t move out some salary they’re (frank)ed. If Nylander got 7M per what’s marner going to demand? I can’t see him and Matthews combined for less than 20M, maybe as much as 22.5M. That’s at best 3M for the other 8 roster spots. I would love it if nobody did any business with them this year.

Our syndrome looks like a better condition than theirs... as of now... *sigh*
- Sabre_Tooth

Agreed.

I can name you 30 other franchises that will take ristolainen over one of their top 6.
- Sabre_Tooth

agreed

I'd pay 8.75M

What's your top $, assuming max length of the term?
- Angler

Paying an older player top dollar for having a career year is following the Murray blueprint of signing players like Kyle O.
Kyle O. never was a great player he was a good player who had an outstanding center to help him pad his stats... Skinner has always been a good player and has been fortunate to have played with an outstanding center this year....

The absolute highest contract I'd give him is 7.5 for 7 years