Super random, but does this make any sense since Carolina is in need of a Center?


TO CAR:
2nd
Brassard
Oleksiak

TO PIT:
Faulk
- Rinosaur

I'm going to say it doesn't make sense, for US. Our D appears okay (ignoring Sully/JR's stupidity with Johnson)... so trading for another Dman is odd with Schultz coming back sometime soon.

Now, that package I could see going for a big time LW or someone like Carter.

This team has no future. Once Crosby, Malkin Letang are done it’s bottom dwelling for awhile. A 1st round pick is like dying with a bunch of money in your pocket to this team. I will also probably be done following hockey once the Crosby/ Malkin era is done.
- Grinder47

I was following you until the last sentence and, well... you can promptly check all your claims that you’re a hockey guy at the door.

Well he doesn’t like skilled, exciting hockey.

He likes knuckle draggers and mouth breathers making big hits 10 seconds after the puck leaves and terrible hockey players that lay down to block shots because they can’t get out of their own zone.

With the game moving away from poopty unskilled hockey players, why would he continue to watch?
- j.boyd919

hahah...the irony of course is when 2 all time great skilled players who weren't knuckle draggers retire, hes done with it.

I was following you until the last sentence and, well... you can promptly check all your claims that you’re a hockey guy at the door.
- Victoro311

I have no emotional attachment to the game that is displayed. Games are so (frank)ing boring sometimes I can’t take it. I just like seeing the Pens core group succeed. They are still real hockey players. The batch of new NHL ers are robots playing for a paycheck. (frank) that. If that’s the future of hockey then why would I follow it?

This team has no future. Once Crosby, Malkin Letang are done it’s bottom dwelling for awhile. A 1st round pick is like dying with a bunch of money in your pocket to this team. I will also probably be done following hockey once the Crosby/ Malkin era is done.
- Grinder47

Let me set my face to stunned.

I really think both Geno and Brass are in their own heads.
- MattStrat

From Mackey's article in Geno

“[Equipment isn’t] my problem,” Malkin said. “The problem is in my head.”

https://www.post-gazette....lump/stories/201901170214

He's saying on the right things. He does try to do too much when he's struggling. Hopefully with Phil (hopefully) back on his line he can defer a bit more.

From Mackey's article in Geno

“
- Thorny87[Equipment isn’t] my problem,” Malkin said. “The problem is in my head.”

https://www.post-gazette....lump/stories/201901170214

He's saying on the right things. He does try to do too much when he's struggling. Hopefully with Phil (hopefully) back on his line he can defer a bit more.

Yeah, I mean anyone following this team through the years should know that Geno gets in his own head for periods of time. He seems to take more penalties when he's in these funks as his frustrations boil over but he's a big reason the Pens started the season 6-1-2. He was hot out the gate.

I haven't followed Brass' career near as much as Geno obviously, but I get the sense after reading older interviews that hes much the same.

Im with you on this one, nobody’s going to give up much for an aging player with no term
- gravyboy33

Literally every year teams give up 1sts and prospects for guys like Martin Hanzal and all of a sudden people think Brass isn’t even worth a 3rd to a team needing a center (hello, Dallas)

Yeah, I mean anyone following this team through the years should know that Geno gets in his own head for periods of time. He seems to take more penalties when he's in these funks as his frustrations boil over but he's a big reason the Pens started the season 6-1-2. He was hot out the gate.

I haven't followed Brass' career near as much as Geno obviously, but I get the sense after reading older interviews that hes much the same.
- MattStrat

Not sure about Brass. Like you said, I haven't followed him his whole career. He's so timid out there. He's not trying to force anything. Seems like he can't wait to get rid of the puck.

He has to be lacking confidence too though. All the stats and media aren't painting a pretty picture of his play.

I'm slightly confused by what you're asking. I'm assuming you mean Sheahan at 4C if Hayes was brought in? I think Sheahan could be gone by the deadline. Cullen is clearly their guy or Sheahan wouldn't be so grossly mishandled this year.

Hayes? Hell yeah. I mean who here wouldn't want Hayes? Hayes will be the consolation prize once Duchene gets moved and the Rangers will probably get more than they should for him.

Between Hayes, Zucc, Duchene and Stone, the Rangers and Sens should be going up to the podium a lot in the first round.
- Rinosaur

I’m still on hydrocodone I was moreso extending out previous discussion. What if we dealt Brass for a pick and then used that pick as part of bringing in Hayes and instead of getting a new 3C we roll with Sheahan but have good depth on D and at wing (assuming we’re healthy)

I have no emotional attachment to the game that is displayed. Games are so (frank)ing boring sometimes I can’t take it. I just like seeing the Pens core group succeed. They are still real hockey players. The batch of new NHL ers are robots playing for a paycheck. (frank) that. If that’s the future of hockey then why would I follow it?
- Grinder47

You think Mitch Marner is a robot? Whaaaat. I think maybe you should delve into how hard these guys still work and how much of their free time they spend in the communities because for some of these guys it’s a ton

I’m still on hydrocodone I was moreso extending out previous discussion. What if we dealt Brass for a pick and then used that pick as part of bringing in Hayes and instead of getting a new 3C we roll with Sheahan but have good depth on D and at wing (assuming we’re healthy)
- WSCTeton17

Sorry man, I’m still confused by what you’re saying to do with Sheahan if Hayes were brought in.

I firmly believe Brassard is now a great fit in Carolina with Rask gone. The more I think about it a deal surrounding Brass/Ferland would be a good move for both teams.

Literally every year teams give up 1sts and prospects for guys like Martin Hanzal and all of a sudden people think Brass isn’t even worth a 3rd to a team needing a center (hello, Dallas)
- WSCTeton17

I don’t think you could get an upgrade with term left on his contract unless it’s a salary dump, a 3rd is possible but no one is giving the Pens a 1st for him on a down year

I don’t think you could get an upgrade with term left on his contract unless it’s a salary dump, a 3rd is possible but no one is giving the Pens a 1st for him on a down year
- gravyboy33

But we did get something useful for the corpse of Rob Scuderi so you never know

I dont know if any news came out of this... but Jeff Carter seemed to get hurt in that game we played against LA. He looked real ginger skating. Either hip/groin or knee..

just mentioning as we discussed trading for him..

Plz trade fore Panarin!!! About time to give Geno a real winger!!!
Brass+pick - Panarin
Pick+Simon - Ferland
Oleksiak+Kessel - Carter Muzzin
Lines
Gutz Crosby Rust
Panarin Geno Horni
Pearson Carter Ferland
Zar Sheanan Cully
- Street00

totes!! then we could flip Panarin and Ferleand for bobby ryan n sign jagr

ryan malkin jagr wow

I don’t think you could get an upgrade with term left on his contract unless it’s a salary dump, a 3rd is possible but no one is giving the Pens a 1st for him on a down year
- gravyboy33

It’s definitely unlikely the Pens get a 1st straight up for Brassard, but not impossible. You can never underestimate dealing with a bad GM.

It’s definitely unlikely the Pens get a 1st straight up for Brassard, but not impossible. You can never underestimate dealing with a bad GM.
- Rinosaur

Edmonton, here Brass comes

Edmonton, here Brass comes
- gravyboy33

LOL

I don’t think you could get an upgrade with term left on his contract unless it’s a salary dump, a 3rd is possible but no one is giving the Pens a 1st for him on a down year
- gravyboy33

I’m definitely not saying Brass is worth a 3rd, but what I did say is that every year somewhat decent players go for 1st round picks (Hanzal, Vermette, etc). Based off that, I don’t think Brass is worthless as some people have said. He has some value and teams need help at center. Rutherford is going to get something done, I think it’s fun that we all get to guess at what it will be

Sorry man, I’m still confused by what you’re saying to do with Sheahan if Hayes were brought in.
- Rinosaur

Instead of us getting a new 3C we ship out Brass for a pick and use that pick as part of a bigger deal to bring in Hayes. Sheahan would stay and center the 3rd line. Same argument could be said for bringing in Ferland for Brass+. Is this good enough to bring us a cup? Idk. I just hope we don’t give up a ton unless it’s a sure thing. I like Brassard for Spezza because it’s low risk

This partially makes me wish the era was over just so we could stop seeing your posts.
- Rinosaur

totes!! then we could flip Panarin and Ferleand for bobby ryan n sign jagr

ryan malkin jagr wow
- YouMeAndDupuis9

I miss Palmer.

Instead of us getting a new 3C we ship out Brass for a pick and use that pick as part of a bigger deal to bring in Hayes. Sheahan would stay and center the 3rd line. Same argument could be said for bringing in Ferland for Brass+. Is this good enough to bring us a cup? Idk. I just hope we don’t give up a ton unless it’s a sure thing. I like Brassard for Spezza because it’s low risk
- WSCTeton17

Brass for Ferlund is a Rutherford type of trade. Rental for rental - no fleecing - both teams have reasons to make the move.

Even though I would like that deal, I would still do everything possible for the Brass trade to give us a guy under contract. We gave up some good future assets for Brass and its a lot more sustainable if we can get a few years of production from lost futures.

Example: a 1st round pick for Perron turned into 3 years of Hagelin turned into Tanner Pearson for 3 years. That's excellent asset management of essentially a single draft pick for a win now team.