IDK, certainly seems so.

Edit:
https://www.nbcsports.com...taying-home-waiting-trade
- NC Flyers Fan

So they are just leaving this man in limbo, what if no one wants him?

You must work in an odd place, I'm 28, and the average age of the people in my company is ~33 (my office its closer to the 28) and we're the top company (in our field obviously) in the state. I always feel like I'm on my toes making sure things never get lost in the weeds or dropped due to A) it's my job, and B) fear of getting fired if I don't do my job.
- Girouxsalem90

Sounds like an amazing company in an amazing field.

I hate this phrase and prefer a modified version of it that I saw Mike Rowe from Dirty Jobs use at a past Cisco Live and I quote, "People say work smarter not harder and I disagree. If you want to win, if you want to be elite you have to both work smarter and harder then everyone you are competing with"
- opeth_pa

Depends on situation in i.t working hard is inefficient. Why try and get connected with 100 different people to run an update on their pc when u can create a script to install it and send it to the users

Yeah sounds like Nylander will always be behind everyone else, especially when playoff push comes then another gear for the playoffs. Probably better for him to take the year off then.
- Glak18

My point was that everyone is going through the same "getting into game shape" problem at the same time to start the year, and Nylander is the only guy going through it now. I didn't think it would take this long, and there could be something else going on, but it's not ridiculous to think that it's just adjusting to game speed.

Sounds like an amazing company in an amazing field.
- Glak18

It kind of is haha, but I had to work for poop companies for 8 years to get here, and those companies were run by much older folks unlike this one.

IDK, certainly seems so.

Edit:
https://www.nbcsports.com...taying-home-waiting-trade
- NC Flyers Fan

In late November, under former coach Dave Hakstol, Weise was under the impression he had a bigger role, working his way onto the second line alongside Nolan Patrick and Jakub Voracek. In early December, Weise was playing some of his best hockey as a Flyer, scoring three goals over a five-game stretch.

That all changed when Scott Gordon replaced Hakstol. Weise was relegated to a fourth-line checking role, which, let’s just say, he refused to embrace. In recent games at Washington and last Saturday in New Jersey, Weise played a combined 20:38 with a whole lot of nothing — no shots, no hits, no blocks and, quite frankly, no interest.

obviously this is opinion and not fact but it is alarming and does explain why they don't have him around the team

In late November, under former coach Dave Hakstol, Weise was under the impression he had a bigger role, working his way onto the second line alongside Nolan Patrick and Jakub Voracek. In early December, Weise was playing some of his best hockey as a Flyer, scoring three goals over a five-game stretch.

That all changed when Scott Gordon replaced Hakstol. Weise was relegated to a fourth-line checking role, which, let’s just say, he refused to embrace. In recent games at Washington and last Saturday in New Jersey, Weise played a combined 20:38 with a whole lot of nothing — no shots, no hits, no blocks and, quite frankly, no interest.

obviously this is opinion and not fact but it is alarming and does explain why they don't have him around the team
- nastyflyergirl

Sounds like an unhappy NBA player haha.

In late November, under former coach Dave Hakstol, Weise was under the impression he had a bigger role, working his way onto the second line alongside Nolan Patrick and Jakub Voracek. In early December, Weise was playing some of his best hockey as a Flyer, scoring three goals over a five-game stretch.

That all changed when Scott Gordon replaced Hakstol. Weise was relegated to a fourth-line checking role, which, let’s just say, he refused to embrace. In recent games at Washington and last Saturday in New Jersey, Weise played a combined 20:38 with a whole lot of nothing — no shots, no hits, no blocks and, quite frankly, no interest.

obviously this is opinion and not fact but it is alarming and does explain why they don't have him around the team
- nastyflyergirl

Well, A doesn’t match B. Who knows what the truth is, but sounds very much like Weise is done with the organization.

Well, A doesn’t match B. Who knows what the truth is, but sounds very much like Weise is done with the organization.
- NC Flyers Fan

Something is certainly up for them to not have Weise around the team.

Something is certainly up for them to not have Weise around the team.
- nastyflyergirl

Probably zero leverage to begin with but this sure doesn't help when trading him.

So they are just leaving this man in limbo, what if no one wants him?
- ClaudeFather

I think the plan is to trade him somewhere even if that somewhere doesn’t really want him. Ouch.

My point was that everyone is going through the same "getting into game shape" problem at the same time to start the year, and Nylander is the only guy going through it now. I didn't think it would take this long, and there could be something else going on, but it's not ridiculous to think that it's just adjusting to game speed.
- Girouxsalem90

You honestly think it takes longer than 18 games to adjust to game speed?

You honestly think it takes longer than 18 games to adjust to game speed?
- MJL

He looked up to speed the past couple games, it very well could take 15-20 games.

To continue on with the point Mike Rowe was making at the closing CLUS keynote. You can succeed by aiming to work smarter and not harder but you can't truly excel if you don't do both.

I know you said you were in IT, same here as I'm in year 24 of my Telecom\Collab career. It wasnt until I adopted both that I moved into the Lead\Principal positions I have been in for the past 8 years.

Over those 24 years holistically I have learned there is no such thing as an infallible engineer. People are going to make mistakes, their isn't a single person in IT that hasn't at one time including you and me.

So yeah.. Compete, Get After it, sign Rinaldo and win! /high five
- opeth_pa

Really comes down to what is working hard. I've been in situations which may take me an hour or two to finish a task, but for another person to do the task it may take them the full day to finish. Does that mean I didn't work hard because I finished sooner? My whole 20's were 90-100 work weeks, constant travel and juggling multiple projects at once. Do long hours mean hard work?

Definition of what working hard varies from person to person. I've seen people constantly late for work, literally sleeping and disappearing for large chunks of time (granted I do a lot of work on government funded projects), but when those people are asked at review time they will tell you and believe it that they are a hard working person. I've owned my own software company for about 8 or 9 years now and some of the delusions people think of themselves are mind boggling.

As for mistakes, agreed 100%. I have made many mistakes during my career, but the key is to accept responsibility for them without making up excuses, even if the excuse is plausible. If you think ahead and plan, even in life, you can limit those mistakes from becoming overwhelming. I just personally believe the better the decisions and choices made in work/life the easier it will be, but that doesn't mean hard work isn't needed at all.

Oh and /high five

Sounds like an amazing company in an amazing field.
- Glak18

I'm 35, work for a fortune 500 company. The products that my business unit design have a 85% market share (on average). I am the only mechanical engineer in this office (3 total across the 3 business unit sites) and therefore take on all R&D roles (including analyzers that cost upwards of $200K), the manufacturing engineer, the custom solution design engineer, and hazloc certification engineer.

Geez, I am so lazy and spoiled and just have everything given to me. If only I had to work harder and handle some responsibility.

Edit: There are peaks and valleys, so some weeks have more hockeybuzz time than others.

I'm 35, work for a fortune 500 company. The products that my business unit design have a 85% market share (on average). I am the only mechanical engineer in this office (3 total across the 3 business unit sites) and therefore take on all R&D roles (including analyzers that cost upwards of $200K), the manufacturing engineer, the custom solution design engineer, and hazloc certification engineer.

Geez, I am so lazy and spoiled and just have everything given to me. If only I had to work harder and handle some responsibility.

Edit: There are peaks and valleys, so some weeks have more hockeybuzz time than others.
- jmatchett383

Ok you are a few years younger than me.

Ok you are a few years younger than me.
- Glak18

Yeah, but I'm one of those lazy, spoiled millenials who just expects to be given everything, right?

It has zero to do with your age and everything to do with you as an individual.

http://www.philly.com/fly...ck-fletcher-20190118.html

He looked up to speed the past couple games, it very well could take 15-20 games.
- ClaudeFather

Ah what's the rush. Give him another 20 to get up to game speed. Maybe he's tired and needs some time off. After all he didnt get to have a training camp.

Yeah, but I'm one of those lazy, spoiled millenials who just expects to be given everything, right?

It has zero to do with your age and everything to do with you as an individual.
- jmatchett383

I find this very true in my life.

Ah what's the rush. Give him another 20 to get up to game speed. Maybe he's tired and needs some time off. After all he didnt get to have a training camp.
- MJL

Ok.

Yeah, but I'm one of those lazy, spoiled millenials who just expects to be given everything, right?

It has zero to do with your age and everything to do with you as an individual.
- jmatchett383

Of course it has to do with the individual, just like not every GenX or Baby Boomer is going to be the hardest working person alive. Overall what is acceptable to the younger generation is not the same the older you get, again no different than GenX vs the BB.

The fact the word millenial triggers you enough that you have to prove you are not like the others brings up another point of being overly sensitive, right? You're an individual so accept who you are. Do you want to call Gen X people poop heads and stupid. Ok. I am fine with that.

So if I simply say I’m part of Generation X, I will be called names?

Of course it has to do with the individual, just like not every GenX or Baby Boomer is going to be the hardest working person alive. Overall what is acceptable to the younger generation is not the same the older you get, again no different than GenX vs the BB.

The fact the word millenial triggers you enough that you have to prove you are not like the others brings up another point of being overly sensitive, right? You're an individual so accept who you are. Do you want to call Gen X people poop heads and stupid. Ok. I am fine with that.
- Glak18

So I should just be cool with the fact that people think I'm lazy and spoiled based on my age? Not gonna happen.

Personally, I don't really judge people based on age, race, religion, or anything other than their actions. If you think that's an acceptable way to judge all people of a certain demographic, then that's on you. Damn all of those Muslims, they're all terrorists...right?

So if I simply say I’m part of Generation X, I will be called names?
- NC Flyers Fan

Every member of Generation X has AIDS and died due to cocaine overdoses in the mid-80s. Because that's how the media sensationalized it.

I'm going to move to rural Tennessee and dig a ditch for 12 hours a day 6 days a week to make just enough money so that my family won't starve. Because apparently, if you don't do that, you're a spoiled, lazy brat.