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I take Myers at 3x3 at most. Let him walk.
Kulikov will be moved in the summer.
Tanev and Chiarot need to walk, as does Morrow.
The 4th line continues to be massacred, thanks to Lemieux, after a decent game - Rexypoo
Out of curiosity, how do you envision the Jets blue line look next year without Myers (you aren't signing a top four 28 year old Dman for $3M), Chiarot, Morrow, Kulikov and (a more than fair chance) Trouba?...
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Rexypoo
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Out of curiosity, how do you envision the Jets blue line look next year without Myers (you aren't signing a top four 28 year old Dman for $3M), Chiarot, Morrow, Kulikov and (a more than fair chance) Trouba?... - Fuelled By Whiskey
Ideally:
Morrissey-Trouba
Muzzin-Byfuglien
Niku-Poolman
Myers will be 29, and he is not a top 4 dman. Losing Trouba would cripple us, so assume the replacement will be about the same level. |
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Ideally:
Morrissey-Trouba
Muzzin-Byfuglien
Niku-Poolman
Myers will be 29, and he is not a top 4 dman. Losing Trouba would cripple us, so assume the replacement will be about the same level. - Rexypoo
Fair enough...
If you are comfortable with limited and unproven defensive depth in 2019/2020, and our current group for the 2019 playoff run, that could be an option.
Muzzin's price tag is reported to be a first and high end prospect, which would make it very difficult to acquire an impact forward at this years deadline, without selling the farm.
In this scenario, I do not think it would be possible to resign Muzzin after his current contract expires with Trouba, Morrissey and Byfuglien on the books. |
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Rexypoo
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Fair enough...
If you are comfortable with limited and unproven defensive depth in 2019/2020, and our current group for the 2019 playoff run, that could be an option.
Muzzin's price tag is reported to be a first and high end prospect, which would make it very difficult to acquire an impact forward at this years deadline, without selling the farm.
In this scenario, I do not think it would be possible to resign Muzzin after his current contract expires with Trouba, Morrissey and Byfuglien on the books. - Fuelled By Whiskey
I’m more than comfortable with Niku and Poolman. Certainly more than I am with Myers, going forward. Even if it is an issue, you can put Niku with Byfuglien and Poolman with Muzzin.
Muzzin fills a much bigger hole than any forward acquisition would. Our problem up front is deployment, and Maurice not understanding his players. The blue line is an issue of only having 3 top 4 dmen, and only 5 NHL dmen.
Trade for Muzzin, fix the forwards, profit:
Copp-Scheifele-Laine
Connor-Lowry-Wheeler
Perreault-Little-Ehlers (Tanev)
Petan-Roslovic-Appleton
Morrissey-Trouba
Muzzin-Byfuglien
Kulikov-Myers |
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Ideally:
Morrissey-Trouba
Muzzin-Byfuglien
Niku-Poolman
Myers will be 29, and he is not a top 4 dman. Losing Trouba would cripple us, so assume the replacement will be about the same level. - Rexypoo
How would Losing Trouba cripple us? The return we would get should be astronomical, if you buy the BS that he is considered elite! Calgary traded away Hamilton last year and it looks like they got better.
Myers is turning 29, Byfuglien is turning 34. I think that should be more concerning. |
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When Brendan Lemieux scored last night, somewhere out there, I heard Rexypoo scream. |
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Rexypoo
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When Brendan Lemieux scored last night, somewhere out there, I heard Rexypoo scream. - TheUltimateJet
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Rexypoo
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How would Losing Trouba cripple us? The return we would get should be astronomical, if you buy the BS that he is considered elite! Calgary traded away Hamilton last year and it looks like they got better.
Myers is turning 29, Byfuglien is turning 34. I think that should be more concerning. - TheUltimateJet
Well, because Trouba is among the elite. His production rate at 5v5 is among the top 5 in the entire league, his defence is top tier, and he’s the best player at a position of organizational weakness for us. I could be talked into Morrissey being better by seasons end, however.
Calgary did not get better by switching Hamilton and Hanafin, they got better by putting Brodie back with Gio, and having Kylington and Andersson running a dominant 3rd pairing.
Hanafin has had to pull double duty by being his normal self while also having to drag Hamonic’s corpse around
I’m not anywhere near as concerned about Buff as I am about Myers.
Byfuglien is an elite NHL defenceman, and he has the hockey IQ to learn where he can cut corners and adapt his game as he declines, like Toby had to.
Myers is an elite *bottom pairing* defenceman, whom has shown himself to struggle with even the most routine plays and decisions on a regular basis. Combine this lack of hockey IQ with his unfortunately loooong injury history, and you’ve got a player poised to be crushed by decline in the future |
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Well, because Trouba is among the elite. His production rate at 5v5 is among the top 5 in the entire league, his defence is top tier, and he’s the best player at a position of organizational weakness for us. I could be talked into Morrissey being better by seasons end, however.
Calgary did not get better by switching Hamilton and Hanafin, they got better by putting Brodie back with Gio, and having Kylington and Andersson running a dominant 3rd pairing.
Hanafin has had to pull double duty by being his normal self while also having to drag Hamonic’s corpse around
I’m not anywhere near as concerned about Buff as I am about Myers.
Byfuglien is an elite NHL defenceman, and he has the hockey IQ to learn where he can cut corners and adapt his game as he declines, like Toby had to.
Myers is an elite *bottom pairing* defenceman, whom has shown himself to struggle with even the most routine plays and decisions on a regular basis. Combine this lack of hockey IQ with his unfortunately loooong injury history, and you’ve got a player poised to be crushed by decline in the future - Rexypoo
Interestingly the Jets power play has stunk with Trouba at the point. His points per 60, should be high based on playing with Scheifele, and Wheeler all the time.
Essentially Trouba = overrated!
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Interestingly the Jets power play has stunk with Trouba at the point. His points per 60, should be high based on playing with Scheifele, and Wheeler all the time.
Essentially Trouba = overrated! - TheUltimateJet
I was wondering when someone else was going to notice the steep decline in our PP since Trouba took over. Trade him while he is worth something ! Chevy will never give him his ask. Let some other team make that mistake.
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I was wondering when someone else was going to notice the steep decline in our PP since Trouba took over. Trade him while he is worth something ! Chevy will never give him his ask. Let some other team make that mistake. - jetsnation
Would the Maple Leafs first round pick and Nikita Zaitsev land Trouba? Leafs could really use Trouba and the Jets get a decent return before he walks. |
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Would the Maple Leafs first round pick and Nikita Zaitsev land Trouba? Leafs could really use Trouba and the Jets get a decent return before he walks. - DrunkenCanuck
The Jets would be looking at a return something similar to what Calgary got for Hamilton. Trouba would most likely be traded with a contract the Jets have no interest in keeping long term. They may even trade him with his bff Andrew Copp. |
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Rexypoo
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Interestingly the Jets power play has stunk with Trouba at the point. His points per 60, should be high based on playing with Scheifele, and Wheeler all the time.
Essentially Trouba = overrated! - TheUltimateJet
Not a great PP showrunner. Never has been. He does his damage at 5v5, and on the PK. He also hasn’t historically seen that much ice time with the top line.
Essentially Trouba= probably underrated, and not a PP QB |
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Would the Maple Leafs first round pick and Nikita Zaitsev land Trouba? Leafs could really use Trouba and the Jets get a decent return before he walks. - DrunkenCanuck
Well, no. Ziatsev is an AIDS contract, and likely our #4 RHD even with Trouba out of the way. Terrible player, terrible trade |
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The Jets would be looking at a return something similar to what Calgary got for Hamilton. Trouba would most likely be traded with a contract the Jets have no interest in keeping long term. They may even trade him with his bff Andrew Copp. - TheUltimateJet
Calgary got clowned on the Hamilton/Hanafin trade. Lindholm blew up, which is nice, but Hanafin is a big drop from Dougie, Ferland is a solid piece for Carolina, and Fox is likely a top 4 dman next season.
Trouba will have to be a 1 for 1, because any “package” deal not involving a (at worst) top 4 righty slams our window shut instantly. Morrissey and Buff can’t carry an entire blue line by themselves, even if Niku and Poolman can anchor a bottom pairing together |
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Location: Winnipeg, MB Joined: 02.11.2015
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This board is once again being taken over by the "village idiot" who continually demonstrates a complete lack of knowledge of the game and acts more like a troll than a fan. Hence I'm back on hiatus. I'm pretty sure I won't be the only one. |
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