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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 20 @ 10:40 AM ET
You can throw Cozens in there too. All good choices no game changers
- VANTEL

I have to say, I think the people that say this draft isn't very good are wrong. The top 10 in this draft is strong.

To me it looks a lot like the 2017 draft.

I don't expect much past mid 2nd for good players in any draft which I think this draft has. It may not be spectacular but it's not bad,
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 20 @ 10:40 AM ET
I enjoy the people that now want to stick to the same plan that they complained about for the first 4 years of JB tenure.

I always wondered if in 2010-11 season if Van would have went after someone better than Chris Higgins, would that have changed anything.

- manvanfan



Do you think that year one of Bennings tenure was the same as year four? He sucked in his first two years.

He is learning in the fly. Luckily he found some good support with Brackett and Johnson . Linden was a disaster and he was running the show more than anyone. Benning always needed his permission. Remember Benning wanted PK Subban and the first over all in the Ekblad draft but was halted.

Handcuffed by NTC and NMC and team loyalty Canucks were in huge hole.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 20 @ 10:44 AM ET
I have to say, I think the people that say this draft isn't very good are wrong. The top 10 in this draft is strong.

To me it looks a lot like the 2017 draft.

I don't expect much past mid 2nd for good players in any draft which I think this draft has. It may not be spectacular but it's not bad,

- manvanfan


I have to say the opposite. 3 GMs are willing to part with their first round pick and there is still a month to go till draft.

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 20 @ 10:45 AM ET
Do you think that year one of Bennings tenure was the same as year four? He sucked in his first two years.

He is learning in the fly. Luckily he found some good support with Brackett and Johnson . Linden was a disaster and he was running the show more than anyone. Benning always needed his permission. Remember Benning wanted PK Subban and the first over all in the Ekblad draft but was halted.

Handcuffed by NTC and NMC and team loyalty Canucks were in huge hole.

- VANTEL

Benning has improved and Linden wanted the slow rebuild which what everyone is preaching now.

Benning's message was always draft and develop. He's done that. He took care of drafting by bringing in Brackett and re-ordering the scouting. Allowing the players to develop by signing free agents.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 20 @ 10:46 AM ET
I have to say the opposite. 3 GMs are willing to part with their first round pick and there is still a month to go till draft.
- VANTEL

5 did last season. All at the end of the first round. You do it to try and win a cup. It's happens every season no matter what the draft looks like.

9 first round picks traded in 18
9 first round picks traded in 17
11 first round picks traded in 16
9 first round picks traded in 15
5 first round picks traded in 14
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 20 @ 10:48 AM ET
Benning has improved and Linden wanted the slow rebuild which what everyone is preaching now.

Benning's message was always draft and develop. He's done that. He took care of drafting by bringing in Brackett and re-ordering the scouting. Allowing the players to develop by signing free agents.

- manvanfan



Who is preaching slow rebuild? I think everyone here wants some trades and wants some signings , they just don't want stupid trades and signings
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 20 @ 10:49 AM ET
who are they?
- Bettmanhatesus

Led Zep clone.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 20 @ 10:51 AM ET
5 did last season. All at the end of the first round. You do it to try and win a cup. It's happens every season no matter what the draft looks like.

9 first round picks traded in 18
9 first round picks traded in 17
11 first round picks traded in 16
9 first round picks traded in 15
5 first round picks traded in 14

- manvanfan


Most of the moves were made at TDL and we have not got there yet. You have 2 GMs already in the top 10 willing to trade their pick , were not talkink the 22nd or 17 th
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 20 @ 10:52 AM ET
Benning has improved and Linden wanted the slow rebuild which what everyone is preaching now.

Benning's message was always draft and develop. He's done that. He took care of drafting by bringing in Brackett and re-ordering the scouting. Allowing the players to develop by signing free agents.

- manvanfan


They are doing a great job on the Development side now also. Something Canucks rarely did.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 20 @ 10:57 AM ET
Duchene wants 8-9 mil for 8 years
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 20 @ 10:58 AM ET
Most of the moves were made at TDL and we have not got there yet. You have 2 GMs already in the top 10 willing to trade their pick , were not talkink the 22nd or 17 th
- VANTEL

Those two GM's have been proven to be bad GM's.

Chicago were supposedly buyers a couple weeks ago. They are now bottom of the standings.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 20 @ 10:58 AM ET
Duchene wants 8-9 mil for 8 years
- VANTEL

Ottawa offered him 8x8

Friend was saying Stone is asking for 9.25 for 8 years.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 20 @ 11:06 AM ET
Ottawa offered him 8x8

Friend was saying Stone is asking for 9.25 for 8 years.

- manvanfan


If I was Ott I would get Dzingel resigned for 5 years at about 4.5 per. Resign Nilsson for 2.5 x 2
Trade Duchene for a first( seeing they don't have one ) and a prospect and trade Stone for young prospects.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jan 20 @ 11:09 AM ET
Don't worry Pressy. Once EP gets 10 million per season they won't be able to pay Sutter and Beagle.
- manvanfan



If he continues like he is doing, he's likely to get 13 plus in two.5 years...

#caprising
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jan 20 @ 11:11 AM ET
I have to say, I think the people that say this draft isn't very good are wrong. The top 10 in this draft is strong.

To me it looks a lot like the 2017 draft.

I don't expect much past mid 2nd for good players in any draft which I think this draft has. It may not be spectacular but it's not bad,

- manvanfan


I agree, only a few vocally say this is a weak draft. Many game changers in the top 10, pair of stud superstars in the top two.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jan 20 @ 11:13 AM ET
5 did last season. All at the end of the first round. You do it to try and win a cup. It's happens every season no matter what the draft looks like.

9 first round picks traded in 18
9 first round picks traded in 17
11 first round picks traded in 16
9 first round picks traded in 15
5 first round picks traded in 14

- manvanfan


Careful, when you piss into the wind, it doesn't land where you want it to.

You're right though.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 20 @ 11:14 AM ET
I agree, only a few vocally say this is a weak draft. Many game changers in the top 10, pair of stud superstars in the top two.
- Pres.cup


I haven't heard not one person say it is weak. I know I think it is nothing to tank for but I have not said weak. I think Canucks will pick up a decent player not a game changer.

They will draft a player that should be ready in 3-4years
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jan 20 @ 11:14 AM ET
Most of the moves were made at TDL and we have not got there yet. You have 2 GMs already in the top 10 willing to trade their pick , were not talkink the 22nd or 17 th
- VANTEL


Who? Edmonton?
They need to get in or chia is done, whos the other one?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 20 @ 11:16 AM ET
If I was Ott I would get Dzingel resigned for 5 years at about 4.5 per. Resign Nilsson for 2.5 x 2
Trade Duchene for a first( seeing they don't have one ) and a prospect and trade Stone for young prospects.

- VANTEL

I would re-sign all three of them.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 20 @ 11:17 AM ET

If he continues like he is doing, he's likely to get 13 plus in two.5 years...

#caprising

- Pres.cup

True. Considering Matthews with the same cap % as McDavid is supposed to get 13.9
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jan 20 @ 11:17 AM ET
I haven't heard not one person say it is weak. I know I think it is nothing to tank for but I have not said weak. I think Canucks will pick up a decent player not a game changer.

They will draft a player that should be ready in 3-4years

- VANTEL



If we didn't have beagle we'd get a game changer...
Yes I did just credit him for making us draft higher then top 3.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 20 @ 11:17 AM ET
Who? Edmonton?
They need to get in or chia is done, whos the other one?

- Pres.cup



Ottawa gave away their first rounder to Colorado even knowing it was probably going to be the top pick
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 20 @ 11:17 AM ET
Who? Edmonton?
They need to get in or chia is done, whos the other one?

- Pres.cup

Flyers
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jan 20 @ 11:18 AM ET
Ottawa gave away their first rounder to Colorado even knowing it was probably going to be the top pick
- VANTEL


They wanted tchunk and didn't know they'd be this bad because Dorian is an idiot.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jan 20 @ 11:19 AM ET
Flyers
- manvanfan


We should trade with them... or Edmonton.
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