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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 20 @ 11:20 AM ET
I would re-sign all three of them.
- manvanfan


You think they need to worry about falling out of last place? There's a team if ever that needs a total rebuild
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 20 @ 11:22 AM ET
No trade a girl for a boy
- VANTEL


And a 7th
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 20 @ 11:25 AM ET
We should trade with them... or Edmonton.
- Pres.cup

I would trade them Tanev for a 1st and 3rd conditional 2nd if they make the playoffs.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 20 @ 11:25 AM ET
They wanted tchunk and didn't know they'd be this bad because Dorian is an idiot.
- Pres.cup



They traded two of their best players for picks , they knew what was ahead. I would have taken Tkachuk 10 times out of 10 over Jack Hughes too.

TChuk was drafted was taken at 4 . Hughes is listed as 1 which proves that this years draft is not as good as last years
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 20 @ 11:26 AM ET
And a 7th
- 1970vintage


Codes Benning
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jan 20 @ 11:29 AM ET
They traded two of their best players for picks , they knew what was ahead. I would have taken Tkachuk 10 times out of 10 over Jack Hughes too.

TChuk was drafted was taken at 4 . Hughes is listed as 1 which proves that this years draft is not as good as last years

- VANTEL


Yikes, this is why you're not a GM. I don't think any NHL GM would take tchunk over Hughes, and that's without Hughes playing a single game.

Wanna bet that hughes will have a better first year in the NHL then tchunk did? Location bet?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 20 @ 11:32 AM ET
Codes Benning
- VANTEL


I know it doesn’t matter now, and might not two years down the road, but the Canucks salary structure at forward is (frank)ed up - based on the practice lines.

That 4th line makes $10m and the first barely $3
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 20 @ 11:33 AM ET
You think they need to worry about falling out of last place? There's a team if ever that needs a total rebuild
- VANTEL

I think the point is to at some point try and get out of a last place. Trading away your two best players with no help insight wouldn't be a rebuild, It would be a disaster.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 20 @ 11:34 AM ET
Yikes, this is why you're not a GM. I don't think any NHL GM would take tchunk over Hughes, and that's without Hughes playing a single game.

Wanna bet that hughes will have a better first year in the NHL then tchunk did? Location bet?

- Pres.cup



You say that is why I am not a GM

What is the team you are the GM of?

You don't think any GM would ever take Tkachuk over Hughes and yet that choice has already happened .
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 20 @ 11:36 AM ET
They traded two of their best players for picks , they knew what was ahead. I would have taken Tkachuk 10 times out of 10 over Jack Hughes too.

TChuk was drafted was taken at 4 . Hughes is listed as 1 which proves that this years draft is not as good as last years

- VANTEL

Being older we will look at the previous years stats for Tkachuk and Hughes

Tkachuk U.S. National U18 Team USDP 61 25 29 54

Hughes U.S. National U18 Team USDP 36 27 41 68



It's not even (frank)en close.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jan 20 @ 11:37 AM ET
They traded two of their best players for picks , they knew what was ahead. I would have taken Tkachuk 10 times out of 10 over Jack Hughes too.

TChuk was drafted was taken at 4 . Hughes is listed as 1 which proves that this years draft is not as good as last years

- VANTEL




Doesn't really "prove" anything, just that you prefer Tkachuk over Hughes. Hughes will be a better, more dynamic player than Tkachuk for a longer period of time, easily. If Hughes was in last years draft, it would have been 1 and 2 with him and Dahlin.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 20 @ 11:38 AM ET
Duchene wants 8-9 mil for 8 years
- VANTEL

Put him in the Pressy GM program when we sign Karlsson and Panarin.

lol
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 20 @ 11:39 AM ET
I know it doesn’t matter now, and might not two years down the road, but the Canucks salary structure at forward is (frank)ed up - based on the practice lines.

That 4th line makes $10m and the first barely $3

- 1970vintage



You just can't win . years ago people always complained Canucks never had a decent bottom 6 . We wanted to go get Dave Bolland and his 6 mil.

We get a decent bottom 6 and move up in the standings and people now want a 3 mil 4 th line.

I don't know what to tell you guys.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jan 20 @ 11:39 AM ET
You say that is why I am not a GM

What is the team you are the GM of?

You don't think any GM would ever take Tkachuk over Hughes and yet that choice has already happened .

- VANTEL


When did that choice happen? Ott took their pick last year, thinking they'd be much better than they are. They were wrong. It's still most likely their pick will not be 1OA anyways.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 20 @ 11:40 AM ET
You guys are missing the gag. Chuksey was literally selected before Hughes, Q Hughes...
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 20 @ 11:41 AM ET
You just can't win . years ago people always complained Canucks never had a decent bottom 6 . We wanted to go get Dave Bolland and his 6 mil.

We get a decent bottom 6 and move up in the standings and people now want a 3 mil 4 th line.

I don't know what to tell you guys.

- VANTEL

Excuse me?
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jan 20 @ 11:42 AM ET
Is it mediocrity or is it the first year of getting better?

Seeing you want to tank which prospect is the one yu have your eye on?

- VANTEL


The best one.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 20 @ 11:42 AM ET


Doesn't really "prove" anything, just that you prefer Tkachuk over Hughes. Hughes will be a better, more dynamic player than Tkachuk for a longer period of time, easily. If Hughes was in last years draft, it would have been 1 and 2 with him and Dahlin.

- NewYorkNuck


It proves that an actual GM chose wanted Tkachuk over Hughes.

Quinn Hughes who is the exact same style as his brother and just as good was chosen 7
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 20 @ 11:42 AM ET
You guys are missing the gag. Chuksey was literally selected before Hughes, Q Hughes...
- 1970vintage

Benning> Dorion
Bullfrog77
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 02.18.2015

Jan 20 @ 11:43 AM ET
Who is preaching slow rebuild? I think everyone here wants some trades and wants some signings , they just don't want stupid trades and signings
- VANTEL

I'm still on board with slow and steady. No free agents anchor contracts. Move out pieces like Edler at the deadline for either picks prospects or younger players with upside. Sutter is redundant at this point as others have mentioned and I'm pretty sure he will be dealt before next season to make a spot for Gaudette. As far as the draft is concerned.... they are 18 yr old kids... to make blanket statements about their being no impact players at this point is just rediculous. Saying that , this is how the league replenished itself with young unproven talent. We can all agree this team needs more talent , and currently is carrying several players who are nothing more then place sitters. I like Jb's work at the draft and I like the teams change in philosophy towards marinating players in developmental leagues so yes I'm still on board for slow steady draft and develop !
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 20 @ 11:46 AM ET
You just can't win . years ago people always complained Canucks never had a decent bottom 6 . We wanted to go get Dave Bolland and his 6 mil.

We get a decent bottom 6 and move up in the standings and people now want a 3 mil 4 th line.

I don't know what to tell you guys.

- VANTEL


I remember thinking when they Signed Molhotra for 2.75 I think it was a lot. He was worth it. I have no problems with Beagle, he’s a good player, sounds like a good influence. My problem is with you bozos who complain about one guy scoring only 5 goals, but a cup champ who only scores 5 goals is great. If goals are the only measuring stick then neither guy measures up.

I got into a very annoying argument with Prezzy about Sutter being a top what, 90 Centre in the league? Basically I said there were literally 100 players I would select over Sutsey who could play C. Do people still think that highly of him?
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jan 20 @ 11:51 AM ET
Put him in the Pressy GM program when we sign Karlsson and Panarin.

lol

- LordHumungous


Lol, don't want the dutch, Karlsson and panarin are 27 year old all star caliber players who fit our need. RHD and left winger.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jan 20 @ 11:51 AM ET
It proves that an actual GM chose wanted Tkachuk over Hughes.

Quinn Hughes who is the exact same style as his brother and just as good was chosen 7

- VANTEL


No, it doesn't.

It proves a GM took a known known over a known unknown. Dorion took Tkachuk at number 4, without knowing where this years pick would be.

Right now, Ott sits at 28, so they could be picking anywhere from 1-7 as it stands. Could they have gotten Hughes at 1? Yes. But they also could have gotten someone worse than both Hughs and Tkachuk at 7, so IMO Dorion played the odds and took what he knew last year, instead (and hoping) that this years pick would be worse because the team would be better.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jan 20 @ 11:52 AM ET
It proves that an actual GM chose wanted Tkachuk over Hughes.

Quinn Hughes who is the exact same style as his brother and just as good was chosen 7

- VANTEL



Jack >>>>> Quinn
Not even close dude.

That's like saying that OJ is better then Mathews
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 20 @ 11:53 AM ET
The best one.
- bloatedmosquito

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