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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jan 25 @ 9:02 AM ET
Bogo, Sobodka, Scandella for mid round picks. Retain 20% salary for each.

Offer one of the first+ a prospect for one of four ducks D-men.(montour, Fowler,Lindholm,Manson)

Move Risto for a top 6/top 2 C
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jan 25 @ 9:20 AM ET
Bogo, Sobodka, Scandella for mid round picks. Retain 20% salary for each.

Offer one of the first+ a prospect for one of four ducks D-men.(montour, Fowler,Lindholm,Manson)

Move Risto for a top 6/top 2 C

- ImThatGuy


I could live w that.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jan 25 @ 9:22 AM ET
Also Datsyuk is eyeing a return to the NHL (Supposedly)

There is a guy I'd go after hard.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 25 @ 9:38 AM ET
Also Datsyuk is eyeing a return to the NHL (Supposedly)

There is a guy I'd go after hard.

- ImThatGuy


Speaking to the Free Press on Thursday, Dan Milstein, who has represented Datsyuk as his sole agent since 2014, said Datsyuk might consider returning to the NHL three years after leaving. If so, the agent believes there’d only be one club in the mix: the Detroit Red Wings.

Milstein said he has not spoken to any NHL executives about Datsyuk and won’t until “he tells me he is considering coming back to the NHL."

“I believe if he wants to come back he would consider only one club," Milstein said.

"He spent entire career in Detroit. If he wants to come back, I believe he would only consider the Red Wings.”
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 25 @ 9:49 AM ET
Bogo, Sobodka, Scandella for mid round picks. Retain 20% salary for each.

Offer one of the first+ a prospect for one of four ducks D-men.(montour, Fowler,Lindholm,Manson)

Move Risto for a top 6/top 2 C

- ImThatGuy


I'll play your game, you rogue.

Fowler-Dahlin
Beaulieu-Nelson
McCabe-Hunwick
Guhle

Ya know that scene in Goodfellas where Joe Pesce's character brutally beats up Billy Batts? That.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jan 25 @ 9:51 AM ET
I'll play your game, you rogue.

Fowler-Dahlin
Beaulieu-Nelson
McCabe-Hunwick
Guhle

Ya know that scene in Goodfellas where Joe Pesce's character brutally beats up Billy Batts? That.

- TheSabresTaco



Uh, where's Pilut?
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jan 25 @ 9:56 AM ET
Speaking to the Free Press on Thursday, Dan Milstein, who has represented Datsyuk as his sole agent since 2014, said Datsyuk might consider returning to the NHL three years after leaving. If so, the agent believes there’d only be one club in the mix: the Detroit Red Wings.

Milstein said he has not spoken to any NHL executives about Datsyuk and won’t until “he tells me he is considering coming back to the NHL."

“I believe if he wants to come back he would consider only one club," Milstein said.

"He spent entire career in Detroit. If he wants to come back, I believe he would only consider the Red Wings.”

- jcragcrumple

is he no longer on the Yotes payroll?
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jan 25 @ 9:57 AM ET
Uh, where's Pilut?
- Powerslave

clearly on the bench because Hunwick is better
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jan 25 @ 9:57 AM ET
Also Datsyuk is eyeing a return to the NHL (Supposedly)

There is a guy I'd go after hard.

- ImThatGuy

Pervert
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 25 @ 10:03 AM ET
is he no longer on the Yotes payroll?
- SabresFaninIndiana


I think his contract runs out this year. If he does come back, he's gonna be a 42-year old good 4th line center
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jan 25 @ 10:03 AM ET
I'll play your game, you rogue.

Fowler-Dahlin
Beaulieu-Nelson
McCabe-Hunwick
Guhle

Ya know that scene in Goodfellas where Joe Pesce's character brutally beats up Billy Batts? That.

- TheSabresTaco


Top 5 Pick next year with that defense!!!!
Sabre_Tooth
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We're all Duane, NE
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jan 25 @ 10:07 AM ET
Bogo, Sobodka, Scandella for mid round picks. Retain 20% salary for each.

Offer one of the first+ a prospect for one of four ducks D-men.(montour, Fowler,Lindholm,Manson)

Move Risto for a top 6/top 2 C

- ImThatGuy



The only thing consoling me in everyone that wants to trade Ristolainen is that it wont happen.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 25 @ 10:08 AM ET
Uh, where's Pilut?
- Powerslave


I seemingly deleted Pilut.. redo

Fowler-Dahlin
Pilut-Nelson
Beaulieu-McCabe
Hunwick


Still sucky
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 25 @ 10:09 AM ET
Top 5 Pick next year with that defense!!!!

- gordong


The OP is atrocious asset management and goes against the team's desire to actually win.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jan 25 @ 10:12 AM ET
The OP is atrocious asset management and goes against the team's desire to actually win.
- TheSabresTaco


Keep one of Bogo or Scandella then?

They are just more expensive.

Sign Myers to a 2-3 year deal as a 4-6 Dman
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 25 @ 10:16 AM ET
I seemingly deleted Pilut.. redo

Fowler-Dahlin
Pilut-Nelson
Beaulieu-McCabe
Hunwick


Still sucky

- TheSabresTaco


Oh, god.

Keep one of Bogo or Scandella then?

They are just more expensive.

Sign Myers to a 2-3 year deal as a 4-6 Dman

- ImThatGuy



Oh, god. Are we trying to break Dahlin's spirit?

McCabe-Dahlin
Scandella-Myers
Pilut-Bogo

That is turrible
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 25 @ 10:21 AM ET
Keep one of Bogo or Scandella then?

They are just more expensive.

- ImThatGuy


Bogo and Risto are actually doing things. Scandella is actually succeeding on the PK, but is definitely not great overall. Sobotka is Sobotka, but you can't just throw him in the garbage without replacing him.

How many teams are giving up young and promising top 4 dmen? That answer is about zero. So using a 1st and a prospect to get one will likely not be beneficial to the team, because of who he'd replace, plus the value of the pick and prospect, long term. If you want Seth Jones, you need to trade Ryan Johansen. If you want Ryan McDonagh, you need to trade a bundle of 1st round picks and prospects.

The Sabres are not structured for this kind of trade today. You find yourself a Chiarelli trading Drai for Risto and a 1st, by all means. But good luck.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 25 @ 10:26 AM ET
Oh, god.




Oh, god. Are we trying to break Dahlin's spirit?

McCabe-Dahlin
Scandella-Myers
Pilut-Bogo

That is turrible

- jcragcrumple


Risto-Dahlin
Myers-Tallinder
Weber-McCabe
Pilut

Win!
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jan 25 @ 10:26 AM ET
Oh, god.




Oh, god. Are we trying to break Dahlin's spirit?

McCabe-Dahlin
Scandella-Myers
Pilut-Bogo

That is turrible

- jcragcrumple


So you forgot one of the ducks dmen.
You are keeping both bogo and Scandella
Myers is a good 4-6 dman. He is not a 5MM d man.

Not to mention the Sabres would have a 2nd line center worth a damn that is able to put up more than 14 points in 50 games........

Ducks Dman-Dahlin
McCabe-Bogo
Pilut-Myers
Guhlen/Borgen/Lakksonen/Fitzgerald/Bryson

Skinner-Eichel-Reinhart
Middlestadt-2nd Line center - (Thompson/Nylander/xxx)
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 25 @ 10:36 AM ET
So you forgot one of the ducks dmen.
You are keeping both bogo and Scandella
Myers is a good 4-6 dman. He is not a 5MM d man.

Not to mention the Sabres would have a 2nd line center worth a damn that is able to put up more than 14 points in 50 games........

Ducks Dman-Dahlin
McCabe-Bogo
Pilut-XXX

- ImThatGuy


That's not a second pair. Bogo's passing is really bad
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jan 25 @ 10:37 AM ET
The idea of trading for a Ducks D, and flipping Risto for a top 2 C, along w dealing Bogo and/or Scandella is fine.

Clearly we would have to pick another D up.

Or, you hang on to Bogo next year for some insurance, and hopefully Guhle is ready for next year and Borgen the following year.



Dahlin/Ducks' D
Bogo/Pilut
Guhle/McCabe

Or insert FA D somewhere in there.

ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jan 25 @ 10:44 AM ET
The idea of trading for a Ducks D, and flipping Risto for a top 2 C, along w dealing Bogo and/or Scandella is fine.

Clearly we would have to pick another D up.

Or, you hang on to Bogo next year for some insurance, and hopefully Guhle is ready for next year and Borgen the following year.



Dahlin/Ducks' D
Bogo/Pilut
Guhle/McCabe

Or insert FA D somewhere in there.

- Powerslave


Cs i would target with Risto
Kadri
Schenn
RNH
Coyle
JT Miller


Obviously not all equal.

Also apparently Burakovsky is available. See what the cost is
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 25 @ 10:45 AM ET
I expected more from casey, tage, okposo, sheary and the pod racer


and e rod



this season's failure totally falls on the second and third line IMO and I expected them to be more credible than anemic

- homiedclown


Our depth chart as constructed by points leaders:

Skinner-Eichel-Reinhart
Sheary-Erod-Pominville
Girgensons-Mittelstadt-Okposo
Sobotka-Larsson-Thompson
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 25 @ 10:50 AM ET
So you forgot one of the ducks dmen.
You are keeping both bogo and Scandella
Myers is a good 4-6 dman. He is not a 5MM d man.

Not to mention the Sabres would have a 2nd line center worth a damn that is able to put up more than 14 points in 50 games........

Ducks Dman-Dahlin
McCabe-Bogo
Pilut-Myers
Guhlen/Borgen/Lakksonen/Fitzgerald/Bryson

Skinner-Eichel-Reinhart
Middlestadt-2nd Line center - (Thompson/Nylander/xxx)

- ImThatGuy


Not/Ready/For/NHL/MinutesYet
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 25 @ 10:51 AM ET
Our depth chart as constructed by points leaders:

Skinner-Eichel-Reinhart
Sheary-Erod-Pominville
Girgensons-Mittelstadt-Okposo
Sobotka-Larsson-Thompson

- jcragcrumple



That's where risto comes in.
Where are we going to replace his 50 point scoring pace, from a defenseman?


Just grab 1 of 4 guys from the ducks? That guy will do it.
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