Feanor
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I wouldnt be so sure we are just going to let Seattle have their pick. We have a lot of valuable assets. I get they'll only get one but who is to say it wont have a huge negative impact on the NHL team ? Taking a ready NHL guy vs a prospect etc. - Tfaehner
The general consensus after the last ED was that making deals with Vegas to keep extra guys tended to backfire on the teams who went that route, like the Wild. Next time I think GMs will be more likely to just let them take one guy and leave it at that. In the Flyers case, that guy may well be Voracek or JVR. |
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Feanor
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Location: DE Joined: 02.13.2013
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I hear what you're saying and odds are, someone will get hurt, but if all stay healthy, having 3 goalies with either the Flyers or the Phantoms is not a good situation to have. - BiggE
They won't all stay healthy.
http://www.nhl.com/stats/...ed,gte,1&sort=gamesPlayed |
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J35Bacher
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 04.03.2014
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you honestly think losing a guy like Morin, Hagg, Lindblom or Rubtsov, will have a huge negative impact on the team? I think that's a bit of an overreaction. You have a lot of good prospects in the system, plus a likely top 10 pick in this years draft. By 2021-22, at least a few, if not several of these kids will be NHL ready.
I don't want to give up a good prospect or a 2nd round pick just to have Seattle take JVR or whomever you're thinking they should take. It's not worth it. - BiggE
And we have no clue what Seattle will do. I mean Vegas took Bellemare. Did anyone see that happening? |
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youarewrong
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 07.07.2010
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you honestly think losing a guy like Morin, Hagg, Lindblom or Rubtsov, will have a huge negative impact on the team? I think that's a bit of an overreaction. You have a lot of good prospects in the system, plus a likely top 10 pick in this years draft. By 2021-22, at least a few, if not several of these kids will be NHL ready.
I don't want to give up a good prospect or a 2nd round pick just to have Seattle take JVR or whomever you're thinking they should take. It's not worth it. - BiggE
I honestly think part of the JVR signing was expansion draft fodder. I will be hard for seattle to pass on him. If JVR can prove to be valuable again I might offer Seattle Laughton and Hagg and maybe a 3rd to leave the rest of the roster alone. We really cant afford to lose Voracek for nothing, so if we can't get Seattle to agree not to take Jake, then we will likely have to trade him before the draft. |
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youarewrong
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 07.07.2010
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The general consensus after the last ED was that making deals with Vegas to keep extra guys tended to backfire on the teams who went that route, like the Wild. Next time I think GMs will be more likely to just let them take one guy and leave it at that. In the Flyers case, that guy may well be Voracek or JVR. - Feanor
JVR I am ok losing with no issues. Jake is too valuable to lose for nothing IMO. |
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BiggE
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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The general consensus after the last ED was that making deals with Vegas to keep extra guys tended to backfire on the teams who went that route, like the Wild. Next time I think GMs will be more likely to just let them take one guy and leave it at that. In the Flyers case, that guy may well be Voracek or JVR. - Feanor
Agreed
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Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot! Joined: 09.01.2012
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I honestly think part of the JVR signing was expansion draft fodder. I will be hard for seattle to pass on him. If JVR can prove to be valuable again I might offer Seattle Laughton and Hagg and maybe a 3rd to leave the rest of the roster alone. We really cant afford to lose Voracek for nothing, so if we can't get Seattle to agree not to take Jake, then we will likely have to trade him before the draft. - youarewrong
Think it will be very easy to pass on JvR. Vegas took on a lot of short term deals and moved forward from there. |
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BiggE
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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I honestly think part of the JVR signing was expansion draft fodder. I will be hard for seattle to pass on him. If JVR can prove to be valuable again I might offer Seattle Laughton and Hagg and maybe a 3rd to leave the rest of the roster alone. We really cant afford to lose Voracek for nothing, so if we can't get Seattle to agree not to take Jake, then we will likely have to trade him before the draft. - youarewrong
I'd rather trade Voracek and actually bring back an asset or two rather than give up an asset or 2 to ensure we keep him. Also, don't forget, Voracek will be 32 going into that season. He might not even be earning his contract by then. |
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BiggE
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Think it will be very easy to pass on JvR. Vegas took on a lot of short term deals and moved forward from there. - SuperSchennBros
Probably. I think it's much more likely that Seattle takes guy like Lindblom over one of the high priced older guys. |
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SuperSchennBros
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Probably. I think it's much more likely that Seattle takes guy like Lindblom over one of the high priced older guys. - BiggE
Yes, sir! |
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Tfaehner
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you honestly think losing a guy like Morin, Hagg, Lindblom or Rubtsov, will have a huge negative impact on the team? I think that's a bit of an overreaction. You have a lot of good prospects in the system, plus a likely top 10 pick in this years draft. By 2021-22, at least a few, if not several of these kids will be NHL ready.
I don't want to give up a good prospect or a 2nd round pick just to have Seattle take JVR or whomever you're thinking they should take. It's not worth it. - BiggE
Hagg would be a huge loss. So potentially could be Morin. Especially if we trade gudas and dont replace him. We would be charmin ultra soft in front of our net. Hes a proven top 4 guy on a good contract who at that time will have how many years of NHL experience? |
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Scoob
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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Question for hockey players:
I have a pair of CCM skates with T-Blades. If I want to replace them with a traditional blade, do I need to remove the rivets and, if so, how do I do so? Should I just take it to a pro shop and have it done? - jmatchett383
I have no experience with t-blades but looking at pics it looks like you'd have to remove the existing rivets in order to rivet on the traditional setup. I'd let a pro-shop handle it. |
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BiggE
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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Hagg would be a huge loss. So potentially could be Morin. Especially if we trade gudas and dont replace him. We would be charmin ultra soft in front of our net. Hes a proven top 4 guy on a good contract who at that time will have how many years of NHL experience? - Tfaehner
Dear lord, help me. Go back to the 15-16 season. Take a look at the roster. See how many of those guys are still with the team. The answer is 10, and, of those 10, at least 3 (Neuvirth, Raffl, Simmonds) probably won't be here next year or even the rest of this season.That should give you an idea of how much NHL rosters change in just a few years. Between now and the start of the 21-22 season, the Flyers roster will look much different than it is now. You are worrying about nothing. |
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jmatchett383
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Probably. I think it's much more likely that Seattle takes guy like Lindblom over one of the high priced older guys. - BiggE
They need to meet that cap floor, though. They'll need a few big contracts. |
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Glak18
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Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA Joined: 06.26.2007
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Probably. I think it's much more likely that Seattle takes guy like Lindblom over one of the high priced older guys. - BiggE
I'm sure things will be different 2 years from now. The Flyers have too many questions of what if and hope to know now. If the Flyers do end up in the situation where they have to worry about making tough decisions then that means the Flyers turned the corner and started to have success. So hopefully their protected list is full of the younger players. |
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Glak18
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Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA Joined: 06.26.2007
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They need to meet that cap floor, though. They'll need a few big contracts. - jmatchett383
Vegas did take Neal, so anything is possible. |
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BiggE
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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They need to meet that cap floor, though. They'll need a few big contracts. - jmatchett383
Absolutely. But I think they'll look for big contracts with only a year, or at most 2 left.
edit: they also might want to use their big dollar on UFA signings. |
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Feanor
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Location: DE Joined: 02.13.2013
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JVR I am ok losing with no issues. Jake is too valuable to lose for nothing IMO. - youarewrong
It's a good point. Trading Jake for a prospect who was ED-exempt to a team who wants to protect 7 forwards but only has 6 good ones should be possible. He'll be 32 with 3 years left at $8.25m. |
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BiggE
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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It's a good point. Trading Jake for a prospect who was ED-exempt to a team who wants to protect 7 forwards but only has 6 good ones should be possible. He'll be 32 with 3 years left at $8.25m. - Feanor
This of course, assumes Jake is even still here at the end of the 20-21 season. That is hardly a given. |
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Feanor
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Location: DE Joined: 02.13.2013
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Hagg would be a huge loss. So potentially could be Morin. - Tfaehner
We'd be lucky if Hagg or Morin was the only loss from the ED. |
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Feanor
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Location: DE Joined: 02.13.2013
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This of course, assumes Jake is even still here at the end of the 20-21 season. That is hardly a given. - BiggE
Also true. |
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BiggE
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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We'd be lucky if Hagg or Morin was the only loss from the ED. - Feanor
Only loss? You can only lose one guy. But yeah, if the guy we lose is Hagg or Morin, I'm likely not losing any sleep over it.
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Tfaehner
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Only loss? You can only lose one guy. But yeah, if the guy we lose is Hagg or Morin, I'm likely not losing any sleep over it. - BiggE
So much will change. I think hagg by than will be hjarlmsom. I think hes under rated by our fan base. We will lose somebody good. Potentially someone from our defense we worked so hard to build. |
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MBFlyerfan
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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Only loss? You can only lose one guy. But yeah, if the guy we lose is Hagg or Morin, I'm likely not losing any sleep over it. - BiggE
I would be most upset losing Morin out of any of the guys you mention previously. I just think he has an element to his game that this team really lacks.
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ClaudeFather
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Location: west haven, CT Joined: 08.14.2015
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I was thinking about the expansion draft, what a position Vegas is going to be in. With them being exempt they will be able to poach from the deeper teams in the league. Fear of losing a quality player, teams will be able to trade with them too but Vegas obviously has the leverage. They really could make out like bandits. |
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