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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 5:44 PM ET


But yeah, he's just crooked Dave Scott's yes man.

- hereticpride


Hyperbole. Do you think Fletcher has the authority to ignore the mandate he has been give from Scott?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 28 @ 5:47 PM ET
Love everything he said. Obviously there are a couple other untouchables but they're quite young and you don't want to give kids with room to grow an ego.

I think Simmonds will be dealt. It just doesn't make sense for us to give him the kind of deal someone is going to overpay for on the open market. If the re-signs it will be due to him taking a big discount to stay put imo.

But yeah, he's just crooked Dave Scott's yes man.

- hereticpride

Re Simmonds:

This is just a guess but I think the Flyers would be willing to pay him well, but for only four years max. I could see them going as high as 7.5 million, but the term is the deal breaker. Simmonds and agent know that there is a GM out there somewhere ready to give him 6 years and 40 million.

Simmonds might like, or even love playing in Philly, but he’s not leaving 10 million on the table. He’s going to be traded
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 28 @ 5:53 PM ET
Hyperbole. Do you think Fletcher has the authority to ignore the mandate he has been give from Scott?
- MJL

Not hyperbole when someone on here today literally called him a yes man.

And I don't read too much into this supposed mandate. Scott wants to start icing a winning team. Frankly, Hextall left is with a fairly stocked cupboard. Its not the wrong time to start expecting results imo.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
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Jan 28 @ 5:53 PM ET
Re Simmonds:

This is just a guess but I think the Flyers would be willing to pay him well, but for only four years max. I could see them going as high as 7.5 million, but the term is the deal breaker. Simmonds and agent know that there is a GM out there somewhere ready to give him 6 years and 40 million.

Simmonds might like, or even love playing in Philly, but he’s not leaving 10 million on the table. He’s going to be traded

- BiggE

Agree completely.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 5:54 PM ET
Re Simmonds:

This is just a guess but I think the Flyers would be willing to pay him well, but for only four years max. I could see them going as high as 7.5 million, but the term is the deal breaker. Simmonds and agent know that there is a GM out there somewhere ready to give him 6 years and 40 million.

Simmonds might like, or even love playing in Philly, but he’s not leaving 10 million on the table. He’s going to be traded

- BiggE


My thought on this reading Fletcher's comments is that both sides apparently know where they stand. If there was something agreeable between both sides, wouldn't it have already been done? What's going to change in a couple of weeks?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 5:56 PM ET
Not hyperbole when someone on here today literally called him a yes man.

And I don't read too much into this supposed mandate. Scott wants to start icing a winning team. Frankly, Hextall left is with a fairly stocked cupboard. Its not the wrong time to start expecting results imo.

- hereticpride


I was on the thread pretty much all day and if someone called him a yes man, I missed that.

Scott said he wants the team to be aggressive and that they will be a cap team.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Jan 28 @ 6:12 PM ET
I am on record as a bring Doughty to PHI.

Start with Jake, their voice of (Sanheim or Myers) and a lottery protected 1st.

I think it is fair. I know he is 29. I know his extension kicks in next year at 11 million per.

I don't care. I think HIS presence would exceed Voracek and am not worried about 9 years from now, so many things can happen including him STILL contributing at a decreased rate. It's the price of elite talent.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 28 @ 6:24 PM ET
FLETCH MAKE A TRADE WE NEED ASSETS FOR SIMMONDS AND OTHERS
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 6:26 PM ET
I am on record as a bring Doughty to PHI.

Start with Jake, their voice of (Sanheim or Myers) and a lottery protected 1st.

I think it is fair. I know he is 29. I know his extension kicks in next year at 11 million per.

I don't care. I think HIS presence would exceed Voracek and am not worried about 9 years from now, so many things can happen including him STILL contributing at a decreased rate. It's the price of elite talent.

- DrMidnite


Not trading him for just Voracek. How can you ignore the other two assets in the deal?

That's a deal you make if you feel he is the player that puts you over the top and you can afford to deal the players you send the other way. Not a fit for the Flyers and I love Doughty.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Jan 28 @ 6:30 PM ET
Not trading him for just Voracek. How can you ignore the other two assets in the deal?

That's a deal you make if you feel he is the player that puts you over the top and you can afford to deal the players you send the other way. Not a fit for the Flyers and I love Doughty.

- MJL


Both teams are in the same spot.

Doughty loves LA, which I did not know but ultimately does not matter but 11 million already set that market barring another lockout.

AND he is the coveted right hand defenseman.

Just an idea. He is still 29, how long was Chelios great? Not that there will ever be another Chelios.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 6:32 PM ET
Both teams are in the same spot.

Doughty loves LA, which I did not know but ultimately does not matter but 11 million already set that market barring another lockout.

AND he is the coveted right hand defenseman.

Just an idea. He is still 29, how long was Chelios great? Not that there will ever be another Chelios.

- DrMidnite


If both teams are in the same spot, why does LA want to trade Doughty?
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Jan 28 @ 6:38 PM ET
If both teams are in the same spot, why does LA want to trade Doughty?
- MJL


Mix it up, value for value with new perspective for both players /teams.

Or convince the other team that their the winners.

Maybe they are rethinking the extension. I for one do not see it as prohibitive.

Then again it was just a theory.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 6:41 PM ET
Mix it up, value for value with new perspective for both players /teams.

Or convince the other team that their the winners.

Maybe they are rethinking the extension. I for one do not see it as prohibitive.

Then again it was just a theory.

- DrMidnite


I don't see anything there that explains why LA would want to trade Doughty if both teams are in the same spot.

I love Doughty. I don't think the contract is prohibitive. I just don't think it's the right move for the Flyers. One, I think Sanheim is going to be a stud. Two, they could trade Voracek in another move and add more players. Three, I don't want to give up a first round pick. If the Flyers were ready to contend, I would consider it.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Jan 28 @ 6:46 PM ET
I don't see anything there that explains why LA would want to trade Doughty if both teams are in the same spot.

I love Doughty. I don't think the contract is prohibitive. I just don't think it's the right move for the Flyers. One, I think Sanheim is going to be a stud. Two, they could trade Voracek in another move and add more players. Three, I don't want to give up a first round pick. If the Flyers were ready to contend, I would consider it.

- MJL


Fair enough!

Still think mixing things up can create unexpected gains for one or both.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 28 @ 7:00 PM ET
Ghost out...


uhoh...
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 28 @ 7:01 PM ET
Ghost is a scratch....

Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jan 28 @ 7:01 PM ET
Ghost out...


uhoh...

- MBFlyerfan

DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Jan 28 @ 7:08 PM ET
Does that mean trade
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 28 @ 7:10 PM ET
Soooooo.....


1) Got a tummy ache

2) Tweaked something

3) Traded


or

4) He comes out wearing a Dale Weise jersey
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 28 @ 7:11 PM ET
Does that mean trade
- DrMidnite



LBI
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jan 28 @ 7:13 PM ET
LBI
- MBFlyerfan


Confirmed LBI?
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 28 @ 7:17 PM ET
Confirmed LBI?
- opeth_pa


Lower Body Trade
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 28 @ 7:17 PM ET
Confirmed LBI?
- opeth_pa




Just going by what the broadcast team said. Said he skated off gingerly.....
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 28 @ 7:22 PM ET
Just going by what the broadcast team said. Said he skated off gingerly.....
- MBFlyerfan


Twitter says it's an LBI
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 28 @ 7:22 PM ET
Gordon is really changing up lines constantly, forwards and D pairs
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