did pilut run a misinformation campaign against housley's wife or something

Im not looking to turn it into a cup contender...Im looking to turn it AWAY from another 11th place finish in the East...which is coming.

hey...we disagree....youre ok with not making the playoffs for 10 years on the pipe dream that 3 15-25 draft picks are going to step right in and lead us to the cup...

Id take a different approach

and again..Id absolutely trade those 3 picks for a resigned reasonable Duchene.

Eichel (22-28) and Duchene (28-34) over Eichel and 3 18-24 2nd level prospects....yep...
- RippedFuel

You want Ottawa to sign Duchene to reasonable extension and then trade him to us....and you're calling draft picks a pipe dreams?

[quote=sbroads24]

right...so why not start GETTING them...

I see your point...the hell with the second line...Rochester needs to be good.....

we don't need a 2C nearly as bad as Rochester needs some young fresh penalty killers...

we need a second line winger...Mark Stone is a 2nd line winger....

the 18th pick in the 2019 draft MIGHT be a 2nd line winger...in 2023...

Seems pretty easy to me...

- RippedFuel

Stone 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

He’s easily my top UFA target this offseason

[quote=sbroads24]

Tampa traded multiple 1st rd picks for Miller, McDonagh

Jets traded a 1st rd pick + for Paul Stastny

Nashville traded a 1st rd pick + for Ryan Hartman.


All the teams you listed did what i have been asking, homegrown talent with a trade for an already established NHLer

You want Ottawa to sign Duchene to reasonable extension and then trade him to us....and you're calling draft picks a pipe dreams?
- Lunaion

no..I want them to trade him to us...and them WE sign him...…

you know....just like Skinner was going to hit the market...he was just a rental....

But if making a trade for a UFA and getting him signed to a new deal is too much to ask from our GM...then ...youre all right.....we DO have bigger problems..

Tampa traded multiple 1st rd picks for Miller, McDonagh

Jets traded a 1st rd pick + for Paul Stastny

Nashville traded a 1st rd pick + for Ryan Hartman.


All the teams you listed did what i have been asking, homegrown talent with a trade for an already established NHLer

- ImThatGuy

Pittsburgh... where Botts came from...
trades their 1sts all the damn time

[quote=ImThatGuy]
And they were all contenders when they did that.

We aren’t

Pittsburgh... where Botts came from...
trades their 1sts all the damn time
- jdfitz77

When they weren’t even a playoff team yet?

I ate all the ginger snaps
- homiedclown

Are you cutting teeth?

I see some good debts here today... WOW.

Let me add my two cents.


Im fine with trading one first round pick and some prospects for a 2nd line center

There is NO way Im trading our first round pick..(the other two, fine) not with the way we are playing till this point.

I agree with the fact that the first round picks might never pan out... But now Im really starting to question is it the drafting of the player? or is it the development of said player????

When is the last time we had a draft pick actually go though the system and actually become an impact player in the NHL? (gotta go back to the miller, Baron, Roy, Vanak days IMHO.

Im not happy with how they handed Mittelstadt this year so is the problem the drafting or the developing or both? No matter what, they better figure out what the hell is going on and fix it ASAP. because guys that are going to help 4 or 5 years down the line won't matter if we don't get some players in here to help what we do have in place now.

When they weren’t even a playoff team yet?
- sbroads24

No, but why do we have to wait?

We aren’t gonna trade for Muzzin who will just be here for a year & a half

As long as we get a guy in the right age range (which Botts has flat out said that’s who he’d trade for),
then that player will be here for years

AGAIN...
why are we waiting around wasting more years of Jack & Dahlin?

I see some good debts here today... WOW.

Let me add my two cents.


Im fine with trading one first round pick and some prospects for a 2nd line center

There is NO way Im trading our first round pick..(the other two, fine) not with the way we are playing till this point.

I agree with the fact that the first round picks might never pan out... But now Im really starting to question is it the drafting of the player? or is it the development of said player????

When is the last time we had a draft pick actually go though the system and actually become an impact player in the NHL? (gotta go back to the miller, Baron, Roy, Vanak days IMHO.

Im not happy with how they handed Mittelstadt this year so is the problem the drafting or the developing or both? No matter what, they better figure out what the hell is going on and fix it ASAP. because guys that are going to help 4 or 5 years down the line won't matter if we don't get some players in here to help what we do have in place now.
- gordong

Great post...

Im sure Ill get butchered for this..but who cares...

Im done with "prospects". In my 40 years of being a sabres fan, Ive seen too many Novotnys, Paul Cyrs, David Coopers, Eric Rasmussens, and Wayne Primeaus, to worry about "prospects". Hell, they even took Brad May over Keith Tkachuk because he was a better "prospect".

Id love nothing more than JB to trade all three of those 1sts for some TRUE NHL depth. 2nd and 3rd line guys that can help this weekend. Everyone thinks youre getting 3 Pasterniks with those picks. That one year Boston had 3 1sts in a row. ONE is an NHL player..one.

Go cherry pick some cap stressed/ tanking tems for some NHL players...Flyers, Leafs, whoever...get Eichel some damn help already
- RippedFuel

i love your plan for the Sabres but then again im a leafs fan.

did pilut run a misinformation campaign against housley's wife or something
- robz228

he's a rookie that wasn't drafted 1st over all..... excuse enough.

When they weren’t even a playoff team yet?
- sbroads24

How about we make some trades to BECOME one....

When they weren’t even a playoff team yet?
- sbroads24

All the crazies are out today. Expect some great responses.

The point I’m making isn’t that all these picks will turn out, it’s that we need to maximize our chances of hitting by using them.

We absolutely NEED to fill the cupboards with cheap skill in the next few years, otherwise we will be trading away the same guys people want to trade for.

Tampa, WPG, NSH etc ALL have homegrown picks playing for cheap and playing big roles because of drafting and developing.

It’s not that trading the 24th pick for Brayden Schenn wouldn’t or can’t be a win for us, it’s that what we need is more than just a Brayden Schenn

- sbroads24

Well who is saying we should ONLY trade for Schenn & do NOTHING ELSE?

Of course there’s more work to be done

But trading for Coyle doesn’t “move the needle” as you like to say?

And while we do need to draft & develop,
we shouldn’t be sitting on our hands wasting 3-5 years of Eichel & Dahlin to figure out which picks will work out & which won’t

my final post and my final point of the day....

our team, which has a true 1C and a true #1D, along with some quality top line wingers...is DESPERATE for secondary scoring...basically an entire 2nd line.

Managements response to that is "wait until the 6th, 7th, and 8th years of our elite centers career...to see if these draft pics we have turn out...if not...we will readdress it then..."

good plan...

Are you cutting teeth?
- dadeadhead

oh my

[quote=ImThatGuy]
to be fair

we are not close to the bolts, preds or jets though

All the crazies are out today. Expect some great responses.
- Lunaion

hookers and blow

No, but why do we have to wait?

We aren’t gonna trade for Muzzin who will just be here for a year & a half

As long as we get a guy in the right age range (which Botts has flat out said that’s who he’d trade for),
then that player will be here for years

AGAIN...
why are we waiting around wasting more years of Jack & Dahlin?
- jdfitz77

my guess is Botts wanted to see how / which players made any impact this year. I think his thought process was / is stay the course (hopefully get lucky with the draft lottery). and then start moving pieces around in the off season.

At least we are starting to hear of the sabres reaching out and testing waters.... Because I sure HATED watching him sit on his hands while we blew the cushion we built up early in the season.

did pilut run a misinformation campaign against housley's wife or something
- robz228

i'd do her

All the crazies are out today. Expect some great responses.
- Lunaion

don't worry there hope for you...