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sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 30 @ 7:01 PM ET
Probably not, but I wouldn’t trade what it basically two firsts for Toffoli
- sbroads24

Nylander wouldn't get you a first anymore....The equivalent is 1st and a 2nd for Toffoli
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jan 30 @ 7:01 PM ET
Probably not, but I wouldn’t trade what it basically two firsts for Toffoli
- sbroads24


Nylander is going to be a throw in on every trade people here propose. I doubt many teams value him as a late 1st anymore.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 30 @ 7:02 PM ET
Probably not, but I wouldn’t trade what it basically two firsts for Toffoli
- sbroads24


Meh.
Is Nylander still a first in your mind?
I mean technically, sure...but realistically based on production to date he won't contribute like many would think a 8th OA should. He is really trending to a career AHLer...unless he suddenly starts putting up PPG+ production
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jan 30 @ 7:02 PM ET
Not a strong beard:


- Der Kaiser



https://www.google.com/am...ability-for-the-caps/amp/
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 30 @ 7:08 PM ET
Nylander wouldn't get you a first anymore....The equivalent is 1st and a 2nd for Toffoli
- sabresfan69

Nylander is a former first who hasn’t been given a shot yet.

That’s basically throwing away a 1st rounder
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jan 30 @ 7:13 PM ET
Nylander is a former first who hasn’t been given shown that he deserves a shot yet.

That’s basically mitigating lossthrowing away a 1st rounder

- sbroads24


ANother view
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 30 @ 7:15 PM ET
Nylander wouldn't get you a first anymore....The equivalent is 1st and a 2nd for Toffoli
- sabresfan69


Whatever, I wouldn't trade Nylander for Toffoli.
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jan 30 @ 7:17 PM ET
Nylander is a former first who hasn’t been given a shot yet.

That’s basically throwing away a 1st rounder

- sbroads24



Just for comparison sake, take a look at Toffoli's AHL production before he became a full time NHL player
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jan 30 @ 7:18 PM ET
Whatever, I wouldn't trade Nylander for Toffoli.
- Wetbandit1



Wise man bandit, I don't care what other people say about you, I like ya
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jan 30 @ 7:18 PM ET
ANother view
- Der Kaiser



This the same view they used for the OJ verdict
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jan 30 @ 7:20 PM ET
Wise man bandit, I don't care what other people say about you, I like ya
- washedup20


SyrSabreFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Syracuse, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jan 30 @ 7:22 PM ET
Damn you ...
- kritter65


Sorry....but, right?
SyrSabreFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Syracuse, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jan 30 @ 7:23 PM ET

- Der Kaiser


Buffalo, I’m comin’ for ya!
Herzeleid
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice.
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jan 30 @ 7:23 PM ET
Compare the value to the Skinner trade.
SyrSabreFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Syracuse, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jan 30 @ 7:25 PM ET
Nope
- sbroads24


Nope? Why not?
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 30 @ 7:25 PM ET
Wise man bandit, I don't care what other people say about you, I like ya
- washedup20


If Skinner was a 2nd and 3rd and some odds and ends. Toffoli can't be more than a 2nd. I might be persuaded to give up the lowest 1st+ for Toffoli and one of their young guys like Kempe, pipe dream I know, but I'm not giving up the first for a 26 year old having a terrible season that has only had one good season and brings nothing other than scoring a few goals. At least Evander Kane could skate and hit people when he was cold.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 30 @ 7:26 PM ET
Wise man bandit, I don't care what other people say about you, I like ya
- washedup20


Blow it out your ass, pal.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 30 @ 7:26 PM ET
I'm buying the nostalgia, considering I'm a season ticket holder.
10 goals and 10 assists are respectable numbers

Homie mentioned trading pommer for a 3rd.

I would be surprised if any team would give that type of pick for him. If so, it's for his playoff petigree and leadership.

I'm hoping we make a serious run at the playoff race. Pommer isnt holding us back.

Scandella
Okposo
Sobotka

All larger problems for the Sabres then pommer and his 33 games left in his career
- Boss34


Dude...
i was a Pommer fan too
But nostalgia is clouding your vision here
He’s got ONE goal and ONE assist in the past 22 games
Pommer provides us essentially nothing in his current role

He wasn’t brought here for experience
He was part of that trade bc Minny needed to dump his salary for Cap Space,
and they gave us a discount on Scandella to take him

Pommer might not be a “problem”
But he isn’t helping much right now either
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 30 @ 7:27 PM ET
Nope? Why not?
- SyrSabreFan

I like Toffoli, but he’s going to either be mediocre in which we overpay(on the trade to get him), or produce and we get to pay for his UFA contract for a late twenties player.

If I’m spending firsts and prospects it’s either for a legit star player or a guy who’s 24 or younger
Herzeleid
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice.
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jan 30 @ 7:29 PM ET
If Skinner was a 2nd and 3rd and some odds and ends. Toffoli can't be more than a 2nd. I might be persuaded to give up the lowest 1st+ for Toffoli and one of their young guys like Kempe, pipe dream I know, but I'm not giving up the first for a 26 year old having a terrible season that has only had one good season and brings nothing other than scoring a few goals. At least Evander Kane could skate and hit people when he was cold.
- Wetbandit1

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 30 @ 7:29 PM ET
I'm buying the nostalgia, considering I'm a season ticket holder.
10 goals and 10 assists are respectable numbers

Homie mentioned trading pommer for a 3rd.

I would be surprised if any team would give that type of pick for him. If so, it's for his playoff petigree and leadership.

I'm hoping we make a serious run at the playoff race. Pommer isnt holding us back.

Scandella
Okposo
Sobotka

All larger problems for the Sabres then pommer and his 33 games left in his career
- Boss34



Dude...
i was a Pommer fan too
But nostalgia is clouding your vision here
He’s got ONE goal and ONE assist in the past 22 games
Pommer provides us essentially nothing in his current role

He wasn’t brought here for experience
He was part of that trade bc Minny needed to dump his salary for Cap Space,
and they gave us a discount on Scandella to take him

Pommer might not be a “problem”
But he isn’t helping much right now either
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jan 30 @ 7:38 PM ET
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 30 @ 7:41 PM ET

- Der Kaiser


Frizzlefry
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Don't get so high and mighty about your superiority over Lockport, NY
Joined: 10.10.2015

Jan 30 @ 7:44 PM ET

- Sabre_Tooth


MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jan 30 @ 7:46 PM ET
If Skinner was a 2nd and 3rd and some odds and ends. Toffoli can't be more than a 2nd. I might be persuaded to give up the lowest 1st+ for Toffoli and one of their young guys like Kempe, pipe dream I know, but I'm not giving up the first for a 26 year old having a terrible season that has only had one good season and brings nothing other than scoring a few goals. At least Evander Kane could skate and hit people when he was cold.
- Wetbandit1



Wow shows what you know..
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