Thunderbolt
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Location: Wampum, PA Joined: 01.20.2014
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Yes, JJ is not good and signed to a bad contract. Let's be honest though, Petterson sucks and they traded Sprong for him. Maata is also looking like a bottom pairing guy on a big contract.
This is the Pens biggest problem, they have two top pairing d men, one second (when Schultz is healthy) and 5 bottom pairing guys. They need a really good 2nd pair LD if they are going to compete this year. - MacPatty
I agree, I like the forwards at the moment. I do think if Rutherford makes another move it will be for a LD. As for how, that is a much debated topic. Many others agree on here also as evidenced by the 'how do we prop up Maatta' posts.
I haven't heard much on the WB-Scranton D' and obviously management is not sold on them as none have been recalled. I thought they were high on Prow and Taylor.
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MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Joined: 05.21.2015
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Football does not have guaranteed contracts. - Thunderbolt
Yes, but that does not mean the Pens need to lock into long term deals with players with limited upside who are easily replaceable.
Maata, Johnson & Pearson are all guys you could find equivalents to in free agency every year for similar or less annual cost. When healthy Bjugstad doesn't fit into this category but "when healthy" will be a concern for the next 3 years. |
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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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I agree, I like the forwards at the moment. I do think if Rutherford makes another move it will be for a LD. As for how, that is a much debated topic. Many others agree on here also as evidenced by the 'how do we prop up Maatta' posts.
I haven't heard much on the WB-Scranton D' and obviously management is not sold on them as none have been recalled. I thought they were high on Prow and Taylor. - Thunderbolt
Maatta is a top 4.
I really dont see GMJR acquiring any more LD's this year. |
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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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Yes, but that does not mean the Pens need to lock into long term deals with players with limited upside who are easily replaceable.
Maata, Johnson & Pearson are all guys you could find equivalents to in free agency every year for similar or less annual cost. When healthy Bjugstad doesn't fit into this category but "when healthy" will be a concern for the next 3 years. - MacPatty
Almost all players miss time every season. Bjugstad played every single game last season, which is more than can be said for every single Penguin last season besides Sid, Phil, Guentzel and Maatta. The season before last? Only Phil played all 82 games. |
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MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Joined: 05.21.2015
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Almost all players miss time every season. Bjugstad played every single game last season, which is more than can be said for every single Penguin last season besides Sid, Phil, Guentzel and Maatta. The season before last? Only Phil played all 82 games. - MattStrat
He has missed 10 or more games in 4 of his 6 seasons, I'd say he is more injury prone than most. Like I said, the upside on him is good but it comes with risk. |
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MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Joined: 05.21.2015
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Maatta is a top 4.
I really dont see GMJR acquiring any more LD's this year. - MattStrat
Maata is not a top 4 d man. He is fairly skilled and a pretty smart player but he makes Johnson look like a good skater. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Maata is not a top 4 d man. He is fairly skilled and a pretty smart player but he makes Johnson look like a good skater. - MacPatty
What does being a good skater have to do with being a top 4? And also skating is the only thing JJ does well so not sure what your point is there as he will out skate most D in the entire league. |
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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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What does being a good skater have to do with being a top 4? And also skating is the only thing JJ does well so not sure what your point is there as he will out skate most D in the entire league. - Feds91Stammer
How did you HBSL go? |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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How did you HBSL go? - Rinosaur
Oh damn I forgot to look. Need to setup my lineup for this week too. |
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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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How did you HBSL go? - Rinosaur
After a few weeks neglecting to set lines and losing, I've banged off a few wins. 76th in league currently. |
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Feds91Stammer
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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How did you HBSL go? - Rinosaur
Won 431-235
Back to 1st in my division and 20th overall. |
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MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Joined: 05.21.2015
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What does being a good skater have to do with being a top 4? And also skating is the only thing JJ does well so not sure what your point is there as he will out skate most D in the entire league. - Feds91Stammer
Not being able to skate means you get burnt constantly against fast teams and you can't play aggressive and hold the blue line. You also get beat to the puck in the corners constantly.
Johnson is not a good skater. Once upon a Time he was but every game I have seen him play this year he has had very heavy feet. |
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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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Maata is not a top 4 d man. He is fairly skilled and a pretty smart player but he makes Johnson look like a good skater. - MacPatty
Great qualities for a D-man. |
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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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Not being able to skate means you get burnt constantly against fast teams and you can't play aggressive and hold the blue line. You also get beat to the puck in the corners constantly.
Johnson is not a good skater. Once upon a Time he was but every game I have seen him play this year he has had very heavy feet. - MacPatty
He is though. |
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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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Won 431-235
Back to 1st in my division and 20th overall. - Feds91Stammer
Nice. I'm still climbing up. I'm 3rd in my division, jumped up about 20 spots in the league to 159th. I think if I went my next two I'll make the wild card.
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Rinosaur
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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After a few weeks neglecting to set lines and losing, I've banged off a few wins. 76th in league currently. - MattStrat
Nice! |
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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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Nice. I'm still climbing up. I'm 3rd in my division, jumped up about 20 spots in the league to 159th. I think if I went my next two I'll make the wild card. - Rinosaur
Cut off is 128th? |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Cut off is 128th? - MattStrat
Yep. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Not being able to skate means you get burnt constantly against fast teams and you can't play aggressive and hold the blue line. You also get beat to the puck in the corners constantly.
Johnson is not a good skater. Once upon a Time he was but every game I have seen him play this year he has had very heavy feet. - MacPatty
ok |
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Yes, JJ is not good and signed to a bad contract. Let's be honest though, Petterson sucks and they traded Sprong for him. Maata is also looking like a bottom pairing guy on a big contract.
This is the Pens biggest problem, they have two top pairing d men, one second (when Schultz is healthy) and 5 bottom pairing guys. They need a really good 2nd pair LD if they are going to compete this year. - MacPatty
Don't know how you can say Petterson is bad... he looks just slightly above average with JJ as his partner. |
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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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I'm staying away from COL players for the most part this week which will probably come back to bite me in the ass, but...
LW: Ovie, Marchand, Skinner, Connor
C: Bergeron, Matthews, Point, Marner
RW: Rantanen, Aho, Pastrnak, Kucherov
D: Krug, Ekholm, Josi, Rielly, Byfuglien, Chabot
G: Bishop and Gibson |
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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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Cut off is 128th? - MattStrat
Yes. It seems each win bumps me up about 20ish spots, so if I take the last two weeks I should be good. |
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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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Don't know how you can say Petterson is bad... he looks just slightly above average with JJ as his partner. - Guile
He took a couple of bad penalties recently..maybe thats whats sticking out to him.
I think he's doing a pretty decent job considering who his partner is. |
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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 06.14.2011
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Not being able to skate means you get burnt constantly against fast teams and you can't play aggressive and hold the blue line. You also get beat to the puck in the corners constantly.
Johnson is not a good skater. Once upon a Time he was but every game I have seen him play this year he has had very heavy feet. - MacPatty
Johnson is a very good skater. That’s the only good quality he has. He just doesn’t have the hockey IQ to go with it.
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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I'm staying away from COL players for the most part this week which will probably come back to bite me in the ass, but...
LW: Landeskog, Marchand, Skinner, Connor
C: Stamkos, MacKinnon, Tavares, Marner
RW: Rantanen, Aho, Laine, Kucherov
D: Dahlin , Ekholm, Josi, Rielly, Yandle, Chabot
G: Vasi and Lehner - Rinosaur
Point and Buff are injured btw |
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