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CardiffGiant
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 04.05.2018

Feb 6 @ 2:25 PM ET
I thought the Rangers game was the lowest point the team could hit, I was wrong. They lost to an old and slow Kings team who played the night before. Like most pundits, I expected regression but not this bad. I figured they would at least compete for a playoff spot.

The last 2 years we've seen the Devils start off hot and then slow down by December (earlier this year). When January and February roll around, you can forget about consistency with the Devils. Even before Hynes became the coach, it was the same thing with Deboer. For the last couple of years, we've heard good penalty killing, but a terrible power play. The trend still continues. The only positive I can take is the Devils are around 3 goals per game the last 2 seasons.

So what can this team do to make themselves better? I don't think firing Hynes is the answer. He's a teacher, not a strategist. Getting a high profile coach at this time is not in the best interest of this team right now. Maybe in 2 years, someone like a Peter Laviolette is available and the pieces are there to make the Stanley Cup run. Right now, stick with Hynes.

I think Shero has a plan and he should stick with it. Get as many draft picks and hope to hit a bullseye a few times, one being Jesper Bratt (not that he's a star but he's serviceable based on where he was picked). Current youth in Binghamton isn't the best right now but let's be patient with some of them. The Devils are doing justice to Michael McLeod's career by keeping him in Binghamton this season.

What do the Devils need? In order of importance: 2nd line center, 2nd line right wing, 1st pairing left-handed defenseman, upgrade in 2nd left-handed defenseman, and a stud defenseman (doesn't matter if it's right or left handed). A goalie is needed now, but let's see what Blackwood can do with more games.

The only way to get a stud defenseman is in the draft or one for one trade based on need (see Jones and Johansen trade). Very rare one can be traded for a bunch of assets or acquired via free agency. Erik Karlsson's situation is unique. If we can sign him that's great, but let's be realistic here.

What are the options for the Shero?

Untouchables in my eyes are Hischer, Palmieri, Coleman and Hall (for now). Everyone else can be had for the right price. Let's say the Devils pick 1st or 2nd overall. So that means it's Hughs or Kakko. That would solve either the 2nd line center or 2nd right winger. Ty Smith is going to be on this team next year, but he's not ready for 1st pair minutes. He'll slot in at #3 with a chance to move up. Jesper Boqvist also has a shot to make the team.

What about trades? Let's look at the trades (and let's be realistic here).

Winnipeg
Jacob Trouba is available after this season. What would it take? The Jets are going to be in a salary cap crunch so they'll need to trade Trouba. They need a center (but who can play a 200-foot game) to play with Laine. Can Zajac fill that need? Zajac's cap hit is about the same as Trouba's right now for 3 years so there's cost certainty while the Jets compete for a Cup. Zajac is an underrated playmaker and plays a complete game. I know Zajac has an NTC, but maybe he'll waive it to go back home (he's from Winnipeg). Zajac, Santini, and draft picks that are not 1st-rounders can get this done. The Devils can sign try to sign Duchene or Eberle to fill 2nd lines roles if we land the 1st or 2nd pick.

Edmonton
Trade Miles Wood (or McLeod) and perhaps a defensive prospect not Ty Smith for Ryan Nugent Hopkins and we take Milan Milan Lucic's full contract. This trade seems lopsided by they really need to remove that Lucic contract. I would even do Puljujarvi straight up for Wood or Zacha. Sign Duschene again to play 2nd line center.

Toronto
Trade for William Nylander for Zacha, prospect, and 2nd round draft pick or something to that nature. Again, attacking a team that has cap crunch problems. Zacha can serve as a 3rd/4th line center or even play the wing for the Leafs. The Leafs might be able to trade Kadri for a defenseman they'll eventually need. Nylander can play 2nd line center.

I'm just spitballing at trade ideas right now just like everyone else.


Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Feb 6 @ 2:43 PM ET
I thought the Rangers game was the lowest point the team could hit, I was wrong. They lost to an old and slow Kings team who played the night before. Like most pundits, I expected regression but not this bad. I figured they would at least compete for a playoff spot.

The last 2 years we've seen the Devils start off hot and then slow down by December (earlier this year). When January and February roll around, you can forget about consistency with the Devils. Even before Hynes became the coach, it was the same thing with Deboer. For the last couple of years, we've heard good penalty killing, but a terrible power play. The trend still continues. The only positive I can take is the Devils are around 3 goals per game the last 2 seasons.

So what can this team do to make themselves better? I don't think firing Hynes is the answer. He's a teacher, not a strategist. Getting a high profile coach at this time is not in the best interest of this team right now. Maybe in 2 years, someone like a Peter Laviolette is available and the pieces are there to make the Stanley Cup run. Right now, stick with Hynes.

I think Shero has a plan and he should stick with it. Get as many draft picks and hope to hit a bullseye a few times, one being Jesper Bratt (not that he's a star but he's serviceable based on where he was picked). Current youth in Binghamton isn't the best right now but let's be patient with some of them. The Devils are doing justice to Michael McLeod's career by keeping him in Binghamton this season.

What do the Devils need? In order of importance: 2nd line center, 2nd line right wing, 1st pairing left-handed defenseman, upgrade in 2nd left-handed defenseman, and a stud defenseman (doesn't matter if it's right or left handed). A goalie is needed now, but let's see what Blackwood can do with more games.

The only way to get a stud defenseman is in the draft or one for one trade based on need (see Jones and Johansen trade). Very rare one can be traded for a bunch of assets or acquired via free agency. Erik Karlsson's situation is unique. If we can sign him that's great, but let's be realistic here.

What are the options for the Shero?

Untouchables in my eyes are Hischer, Palmieri, Coleman and Hall (for now). Everyone else can be had for the right price. Let's say the Devils pick 1st or 2nd overall. So that means it's Hughs or Kakko. That would solve either the 2nd line center or 2nd right winger. Ty Smith is going to be on this team next year, but he's not ready for 1st pair minutes. He'll slot in at #3 with a chance to move up. Jesper Boqvist also has a shot to make the team.

What about trades? Let's look at the trades (and let's be realistic here).

Winnipeg
Jacob Trouba is available after this season. What would it take? The Jets are going to be in a salary cap crunch so they'll need to trade Trouba. They need a center (but who can play a 200-foot game) to play with Laine. Can Zajac fill that need? Zajac's cap hit is about the same as Trouba's right now for 3 years so there's cost certainty while the Jets compete for a Cup. Zajac is an underrated playmaker and plays a complete game. I know Zajac has an NTC, but maybe he'll waive it to go back home (he's from Winnipeg). Zajac, Santini, and draft picks that are not 1st-rounders can get this done. The Devils can sign try to sign Duchene or Eberle to fill 2nd lines roles if we land the 1st or 2nd pick.

Edmonton
Trade Miles Wood (or McLeod) and perhaps a defensive prospect not Ty Smith for Ryan Nugent Hopkins and we take Milan Milan Lucic's full contract. This trade seems lopsided by they really need to remove that Lucic contract. I would even do Puljujarvi straight up for Wood or Zacha. Sign Duschene again to play 2nd line center.

Toronto
Trade for William Nylander for Zacha, prospect, and 2nd round draft pick or something to that nature. Again, attacking a team that has cap crunch problems. Zacha can serve as a 3rd/4th line center or even play the wing for the Leafs. The Leafs might be able to trade Kadri for a defenseman they'll eventually need. Nylander can play 2nd line center.

I'm just spitballing at trade ideas right now just like everyone else.

- CardiffGiant


Im not reading all of this. You got the Cliff notes?
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Feb 6 @ 2:50 PM ET
I thought the Rangers game was the lowest point the team could hit, I was wrong. They lost to an old and slow Kings team who played the night before. Like most pundits, I expected regression but not this bad. I figured they would at least compete for a playoff spot.

The last 2 years we've seen the Devils start off hot and then slow down by December (earlier this year). When January and February roll around, you can forget about consistency with the Devils. Even before Hynes became the coach, it was the same thing with Deboer. For the last couple of years, we've heard good penalty killing, but a terrible power play. The trend still continues. The only positive I can take is the Devils are around 3 goals per game the last 2 seasons.

So what can this team do to make themselves better? I don't think firing Hynes is the answer. He's a teacher, not a strategist. Getting a high profile coach at this time is not in the best interest of this team right now. Maybe in 2 years, someone like a Peter Laviolette is available and the pieces are there to make the Stanley Cup run. Right now, stick with Hynes.

I think Shero has a plan and he should stick with it. Get as many draft picks and hope to hit a bullseye a few times, one being Jesper Bratt (not that he's a star but he's serviceable based on where he was picked). Current youth in Binghamton isn't the best right now but let's be patient with some of them. The Devils are doing justice to Michael McLeod's career by keeping him in Binghamton this season.

What do the Devils need? In order of importance: 2nd line center, 2nd line right wing, 1st pairing left-handed defenseman, upgrade in 2nd left-handed defenseman, and a stud defenseman (doesn't matter if it's right or left handed). A goalie is needed now, but let's see what Blackwood can do with more games.

The only way to get a stud defenseman is in the draft or one for one trade based on need (see Jones and Johansen trade). Very rare one can be traded for a bunch of assets or acquired via free agency. Erik Karlsson's situation is unique. If we can sign him that's great, but let's be realistic here.

What are the options for the Shero?

Untouchables in my eyes are Hischer, Palmieri, Coleman and Hall (for now). Everyone else can be had for the right price. Let's say the Devils pick 1st or 2nd overall. So that means it's Hughs or Kakko. That would solve either the 2nd line center or 2nd right winger. Ty Smith is going to be on this team next year, but he's not ready for 1st pair minutes. He'll slot in at #3 with a chance to move up. Jesper Boqvist also has a shot to make the team.

What about trades? Let's look at the trades (and let's be realistic here).

Winnipeg
Jacob Trouba is available after this season. What would it take? The Jets are going to be in a salary cap crunch so they'll need to trade Trouba. They need a center (but who can play a 200-foot game) to play with Laine. Can Zajac fill that need? Zajac's cap hit is about the same as Trouba's right now for 3 years so there's cost certainty while the Jets compete for a Cup. Zajac is an underrated playmaker and plays a complete game. I know Zajac has an NTC, but maybe he'll waive it to go back home (he's from Winnipeg). Zajac, Santini, and draft picks that are not 1st-rounders can get this done. The Devils can sign try to sign Duchene or Eberle to fill 2nd lines roles if we land the 1st or 2nd pick.

Edmonton
Trade Miles Wood (or McLeod) and perhaps a defensive prospect not Ty Smith for Ryan Nugent Hopkins and we take Milan Milan Lucic's full contract. This trade seems lopsided by they really need to remove that Lucic contract. I would even do Puljujarvi straight up for Wood or Zacha. Sign Duschene again to play 2nd line center.

Toronto
Trade for William Nylander for Zacha, prospect, and 2nd round draft pick or something to that nature. Again, attacking a team that has cap crunch problems. Zacha can serve as a 3rd/4th line center or even play the wing for the Leafs. The Leafs might be able to trade Kadri for a defenseman they'll eventually need. Nylander can play 2nd line center.

I'm just spitballing at trade ideas right now just like everyone else.

- CardiffGiant


Some grand ideas for sure, but Zajac is not what winnipeg needs. They already have little (of similar talent and role) occupying the 3C for the next 5 years at 5.75M. Raslovic looks poised to be their 2C, and Scheifs is their obvious #1. They can't afford another 5.75M bottom 6 C. Its a shame since Zajac is from Winnipeg, but he just is not what they need.

Nuge would be a great 2C for this club but not at the cost of taking Lucic's full contract. If Edmonton can retain 1.25M, making him 4.75M, it would maybe be an option.

Honestly, I do not see any benefit in trading a single asset or young player at this point. Eberle is having a down year, but could easily solve our issue at 2RW and we can afford to put in the strongest bid on a 1-2 year offer. I would also love to target Panarin, who is over 1ppg, comperable production to some major contacts, but likely to sign for 9M. This guy has played outstanding hockey since joining the NHL, and is on pace for 99 points. If he is available for 9M, scoop him up!!!

As for our D, the only real standout is Karlsson, who I doubt wants to play in NJ, but who knows. Gardiner has put up great numbers, and will certainly hit free agency, but he is a defensive liablity. I think we will improve greatly simply from Lovejoy being gone, and Ty Smith coming up. Hopefully Santini and Butcher can develop their game, and Sev and Vats will be quality players as well. Maybe a short one year deal with a guy like Meyers/Edler/Gardiner would be beneficial, but I hope to develop what we have.
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Feb 6 @ 2:54 PM ET
Damn. I'll miss Boyle but it needs to be done
- willschulme


He is welcome to come back next year! I was suprised we got a 2nd for him. I was expecting a conditional 2nd, likely becoming a 3rd, but thankfully that was not the case. I still think Mojo will fetch a 2nd, or maybe even a 1st. If he can go back to playing C, he would be exactly what the pens need for that 3C role. Lets rent out our guys, take on some picks/prospects, and TANK
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Feb 6 @ 2:58 PM ET
Im not reading all of this. You got the Cliff notes?
- Leniwm1


Yes.

It says we suck. We shouldn't do anything different and Shero should trade our way into improvement. Maybe add a bunch of really good player thru the draft...
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Feb 6 @ 2:58 PM ET
I thought the Rangers game was the lowest point the team could hit, I was wrong. They lost to an old and slow Kings team who played the night before. Like most pundits, I expected regression but not this bad. I figured they would at least compete for a playoff spot.

The last 2 years we've seen the Devils start off hot and then slow down by December (earlier this year). When January and February roll around, you can forget about consistency with the Devils. Even before Hynes became the coach, it was the same thing with Deboer. For the last couple of years, we've heard good penalty killing, but a terrible power play. The trend still continues. The only positive I can take is the Devils are around 3 goals per game the last 2 seasons.

So what can this team do to make themselves better? I don't think firing Hynes is the answer. He's a teacher, not a strategist. Getting a high profile coach at this time is not in the best interest of this team right now. Maybe in 2 years, someone like a Peter Laviolette is available and the pieces are there to make the Stanley Cup run. Right now, stick with Hynes.

I think Shero has a plan and he should stick with it. Get as many draft picks and hope to hit a bullseye a few times, one being Jesper Bratt (not that he's a star but he's serviceable based on where he was picked). Current youth in Binghamton isn't the best right now but let's be patient with some of them. The Devils are doing justice to Michael McLeod's career by keeping him in Binghamton this season.

What do the Devils need? In order of importance: 2nd line center, 2nd line right wing, 1st pairing left-handed defenseman, upgrade in 2nd left-handed defenseman, and a stud defenseman (doesn't matter if it's right or left handed). A goalie is needed now, but let's see what Blackwood can do with more games.

The only way to get a stud defenseman is in the draft or one for one trade based on need (see Jones and Johansen trade). Very rare one can be traded for a bunch of assets or acquired via free agency. Erik Karlsson's situation is unique. If we can sign him that's great, but let's be realistic here.

What are the options for the Shero?

Untouchables in my eyes are Hischer, Palmieri, Coleman and Hall (for now). Everyone else can be had for the right price. Let's say the Devils pick 1st or 2nd overall. So that means it's Hughs or Kakko. That would solve either the 2nd line center or 2nd right winger. Ty Smith is going to be on this team next year, but he's not ready for 1st pair minutes. He'll slot in at #3 with a chance to move up. Jesper Boqvist also has a shot to make the team.

What about trades? Let's look at the trades (and let's be realistic here).

Winnipeg
Jacob Trouba is available after this season. What would it take? The Jets are going to be in a salary cap crunch so they'll need to trade Trouba. They need a center (but who can play a 200-foot game) to play with Laine. Can Zajac fill that need? Zajac's cap hit is about the same as Trouba's right now for 3 years so there's cost certainty while the Jets compete for a Cup. Zajac is an underrated playmaker and plays a complete game. I know Zajac has an NTC, but maybe he'll waive it to go back home (he's from Winnipeg). Zajac, Santini, and draft picks that are not 1st-rounders can get this done. The Devils can sign try to sign Duchene or Eberle to fill 2nd lines roles if we land the 1st or 2nd pick.

Edmonton
Trade Miles Wood (or McLeod) and perhaps a defensive prospect not Ty Smith for Ryan Nugent Hopkins and we take Milan Milan Lucic's full contract. This trade seems lopsided by they really need to remove that Lucic contract. I would even do Puljujarvi straight up for Wood or Zacha. Sign Duschene again to play 2nd line center.

Toronto
Trade for William Nylander for Zacha, prospect, and 2nd round draft pick or something to that nature. Again, attacking a team that has cap crunch problems. Zacha can serve as a 3rd/4th line center or even play the wing for the Leafs. The Leafs might be able to trade Kadri for a defenseman they'll eventually need. Nylander can play 2nd line center.

I'm just spitballing at trade ideas right now just like everyone else.

- CardiffGiant


don't challenge me to an essay duel.. you will lose. I've been more reserved in recent years, but I still have the power.
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Feb 6 @ 3:12 PM ET
can we please stop quoting the garbage wall of text
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Feb 6 @ 3:47 PM ET
can we please stop quoting the garbage wall of text
- Pomegrant



Need some spreadsheets up in this mother(frank)er.
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Feb 6 @ 3:50 PM ET
can we please stop quoting the garbage wall of text
- Pomegrant


Are you talking about this text ?


"I thought the Rangers game was the lowest point the team could hit, I was wrong. They lost to an old and slow Kings team who played the night before. Like most pundits, I expected regression but not this bad. I figured they would at least compete for a playoff spot.

The last 2 years we've seen the Devils start off hot and then slow down by December (earlier this year). When January and February roll around, you can forget about consistency with the Devils. Even before Hynes became the coach, it was the same thing with Deboer. For the last couple of years, we've heard good penalty killing, but a terrible power play. The trend still continues. The only positive I can take is the Devils are around 3 goals per game the last 2 seasons.

So what can this team do to make themselves better? I don't think firing Hynes is the answer. He's a teacher, not a strategist. Getting a high profile coach at this time is not in the best interest of this team right now. Maybe in 2 years, someone like a Peter Laviolette is available and the pieces are there to make the Stanley Cup run. Right now, stick with Hynes.

I think Shero has a plan and he should stick with it. Get as many draft picks and hope to hit a bullseye a few times, one being Jesper Bratt (not that he's a star but he's serviceable based on where he was picked). Current youth in Binghamton isn't the best right now but let's be patient with some of them. The Devils are doing justice to Michael McLeod's career by keeping him in Binghamton this season.

What do the Devils need? In order of importance: 2nd line center, 2nd line right wing, 1st pairing left-handed defenseman, upgrade in 2nd left-handed defenseman, and a stud defenseman (doesn't matter if it's right or left handed). A goalie is needed now, but let's see what Blackwood can do with more games.

The only way to get a stud defenseman is in the draft or one for one trade based on need (see Jones and Johansen trade). Very rare one can be traded for a bunch of assets or acquired via free agency. Erik Karlsson's situation is unique. If we can sign him that's great, but let's be realistic here.

What are the options for the Shero?

Untouchables in my eyes are Hischer, Palmieri, Coleman and Hall (for now). Everyone else can be had for the right price. Let's say the Devils pick 1st or 2nd overall. So that means it's Hughs or Kakko. That would solve either the 2nd line center or 2nd right winger. Ty Smith is going to be on this team next year, but he's not ready for 1st pair minutes. He'll slot in at #3 with a chance to move up. Jesper Boqvist also has a shot to make the team.

What about trades? Let's look at the trades (and let's be realistic here).

Winnipeg
Jacob Trouba is available after this season. What would it take? The Jets are going to be in a salary cap crunch so they'll need to trade Trouba. They need a center (but who can play a 200-foot game) to play with Laine. Can Zajac fill that need? Zajac's cap hit is about the same as Trouba's right now for 3 years so there's cost certainty while the Jets compete for a Cup. Zajac is an underrated playmaker and plays a complete game. I know Zajac has an NTC, but maybe he'll waive it to go back home (he's from Winnipeg). Zajac, Santini, and draft picks that are not 1st-rounders can get this done. The Devils can sign try to sign Duchene or Eberle to fill 2nd lines roles if we land the 1st or 2nd pick.

Edmonton
Trade Miles Wood (or McLeod) and perhaps a defensive prospect not Ty Smith for Ryan Nugent Hopkins and we take Milan Milan Lucic's full contract. This trade seems lopsided by they really need to remove that Lucic contract. I would even do Puljujarvi straight up for Wood or Zacha. Sign Duschene again to play 2nd line center.

Toronto
Trade for William Nylander for Zacha, prospect, and 2nd round draft pick or something to that nature. Again, attacking a team that has cap crunch problems. Zacha can serve as a 3rd/4th line center or even play the wing for the Leafs. The Leafs might be able to trade Kadri for a defenseman they'll eventually need. Nylander can play 2nd line center.

I'm just spitballing at trade ideas right now just like everyone else."
- CardiffGiant
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Feb 6 @ 4:46 PM ET
Are you talking about this text ?


"I thought the Rangers game was the lowest point the team could hit, I was wrong. They lost to an old and slow Kings team who played the night before. Like most pundits, I expected regression but not this bad. I figured they would at least compete for a playoff spot.

The last 2 years we've seen the Devils start off hot and then slow down by December (earlier this year). When January and February roll around, you can forget about consistency with the Devils. Even before Hynes became the coach, it was the same thing with Deboer. For the last couple of years, we've heard good penalty killing, but a terrible power play. The trend still continues. The only positive I can take is the Devils are around 3 goals per game the last 2 seasons.

So what can this team do to make themselves better? I don't think firing Hynes is the answer. He's a teacher, not a strategist. Getting a high profile coach at this time is not in the best interest of this team right now. Maybe in 2 years, someone like a Peter Laviolette is available and the pieces are there to make the Stanley Cup run. Right now, stick with Hynes.

I think Shero has a plan and he should stick with it. Get as many draft picks and hope to hit a bullseye a few times, one being Jesper Bratt (not that he's a star but he's serviceable based on where he was picked). Current youth in Binghamton isn't the best right now but let's be patient with some of them. The Devils are doing justice to Michael McLeod's career by keeping him in Binghamton this season.

What do the Devils need? In order of importance: 2nd line center, 2nd line right wing, 1st pairing left-handed defenseman, upgrade in 2nd left-handed defenseman, and a stud defenseman (doesn't matter if it's right or left handed). A goalie is needed now, but let's see what Blackwood can do with more games.

The only way to get a stud defenseman is in the draft or one for one trade based on need (see Jones and Johansen trade). Very rare one can be traded for a bunch of assets or acquired via free agency. Erik Karlsson's situation is unique. If we can sign him that's great, but let's be realistic here.

What are the options for the Shero?

Untouchables in my eyes are Hischer, Palmieri, Coleman and Hall (for now). Everyone else can be had for the right price. Let's say the Devils pick 1st or 2nd overall. So that means it's Hughs or Kakko. That would solve either the 2nd line center or 2nd right winger. Ty Smith is going to be on this team next year, but he's not ready for 1st pair minutes. He'll slot in at #3 with a chance to move up. Jesper Boqvist also has a shot to make the team.

What about trades? Let's look at the trades (and let's be realistic here).

Winnipeg
Jacob Trouba is available after this season. What would it take? The Jets are going to be in a salary cap crunch so they'll need to trade Trouba. They need a center (but who can play a 200-foot game) to play with Laine. Can Zajac fill that need? Zajac's cap hit is about the same as Trouba's right now for 3 years so there's cost certainty while the Jets compete for a Cup. Zajac is an underrated playmaker and plays a complete game. I know Zajac has an NTC, but maybe he'll waive it to go back home (he's from Winnipeg). Zajac, Santini, and draft picks that are not 1st-rounders can get this done. The Devils can sign try to sign Duchene or Eberle to fill 2nd lines roles if we land the 1st or 2nd pick.

Edmonton
Trade Miles Wood (or McLeod) and perhaps a defensive prospect not Ty Smith for Ryan Nugent Hopkins and we take Milan Milan Lucic's full contract. This trade seems lopsided by they really need to remove that Lucic contract. I would even do Puljujarvi straight up for Wood or Zacha. Sign Duschene again to play 2nd line center.

Toronto
Trade for William Nylander for Zacha, prospect, and 2nd round draft pick or something to that nature. Again, attacking a team that has cap crunch problems. Zacha can serve as a 3rd/4th line center or even play the wing for the Leafs. The Leafs might be able to trade Kadri for a defenseman they'll eventually need. Nylander can play 2nd line center.

I'm just spitballing at trade ideas right now just like everyone else."
- CardiffGiant

- Leniwm1


Yes, I believe that was the one he meant. To be fair I should point out Pomegrant did ask politely.

I just keep seeing the line "Untouchable in my eyes...."
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Feb 6 @ 5:38 PM ET
I'm still pumped we got a 2nd. That could very well be 50th overall, which is nothing to dismiss. If we could add up some more picks that would make for a fun draft, or provide us with some trade chips, albeit weak ones with picks after the 2nd round.
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Feb 6 @ 6:10 PM ET
I'm still pumped we got a 2nd. That could very well be 50th overall, which is nothing to dismiss. If we could add up some more picks that would make for a fun draft, or provide us with some trade chips, albeit weak ones with picks after the 2nd round.
- MartysBetter88


Would you trade both 2nds for a mid 1st?
redmonsters
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 06.23.2015

Feb 6 @ 6:16 PM ET
Some grand ideas for sure, but Zajac is not what winnipeg needs. They already have little (of similar talent and role) occupying the 3C for the next 5 years at 5.75M. Raslovic looks poised to be their 2C, and Scheifs is their obvious #1. They can't afford another 5.75M bottom 6 C. Its a shame since Zajac is from Winnipeg, but he just is not what they need.

Nuge would be a great 2C for this club but not at the cost of taking Lucic's full contract. If Edmonton can retain 1.25M, making him 4.75M, it would maybe be an option.

Honestly, I do not see any benefit in trading a single asset or young player at this point. Eberle is having a down year, but could easily solve our issue at 2RW and we can afford to put in the strongest bid on a 1-2 year offer. I would also love to target Panarin, who is over 1ppg, comperable production to some major contacts, but likely to sign for 9M. This guy has played outstanding hockey since joining the NHL, and is on pace for 99 points. If he is available for 9M, scoop him up!!!

As for our D, the only real standout is Karlsson, who I doubt wants to play in NJ, but who knows. Gardiner has put up great numbers, and will certainly hit free agency, but he is a defensive liablity. I think we will improve greatly simply from Lovejoy being gone, and Ty Smith coming up. Hopefully Santini and Butcher can develop their game, and Sev and Vats will be quality players as well. Maybe a short one year deal with a guy like Meyers/Edler/Gardiner would be beneficial, but I hope to develop what we have.

- bikeguy99

The bread man will get 10+ from Panthers in a no state income tax state, so kiss that hope goodbye.
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Feb 6 @ 6:18 PM ET
Would you trade both 2nds for a mid 1st?
- Leniwm1



Yes, wouldn't even think twice. This year is a pretty solid 1st round almost the whole way through.

If we could grab Kakko with our pick and snag a guy like Kokkonen in the late teens early 20's that would be huge.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Feb 6 @ 6:31 PM ET
Would you trade both 2nds for a mid 1st?
- Leniwm1


Idk how may spots up we'd move by trading our 2nd + Nashville's 2nd. I have no idea. If we could get early 20s or earlier then yes. Otherwise.. maybe it's better to have 33+58?
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Feb 6 @ 6:59 PM ET
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Assuming this deal is finalized, price will be NSH 2nd round pick in 2019

- Vukota

Great return
creek
New Jersey Devils
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 10.27.2007

Feb 6 @ 7:04 PM ET
Great return
- shvingter88


Yeah maybe we can get 2 seconds for marjo and maybe something for kk too.

Someone in the essay also wrote that Coleman of all ppl is untouchable. I mean I like blake, the definition of a late bloomer but untouchable?! Like even if someone offered a 2nd we would say no?!?!?
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Feb 6 @ 7:33 PM ET
Yeah maybe we can get 2 seconds for marjo and maybe something for kk too.

Someone in the essay also wrote that Coleman of all ppl is untouchable. I mean I like blake, the definition of a late bloomer but untouchable?! Like even if someone offered a 2nd we would say no?!?!?

- creek


He is an engine that doesnt quit. Thats very important to have. I wouldnt trade him. If only Woody can match that...
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Feb 6 @ 7:59 PM ET
He is an engine that doesnt quit. Thats very important to have. I wouldnt trade him. If only Woody can match that...
- Leniwm1



And Coleman has a very team friendly contract. Someone would have to offer something ridiculous to move him.
Devils622
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 08.31.2006

Feb 6 @ 8:13 PM ET
Any chance Boyle returns next year since family seemed happy in the area?
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

Feb 6 @ 10:37 PM ET
Any chance Boyle returns next year since family seemed happy in the area?
- Devils622

Certainly wouldn't count it out
redmonsters
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 06.23.2015

Feb 7 @ 6:14 AM ET
The sell-off has definitely begun on the right foot, lets hope it continues, and no Prout like moves.
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Feb 7 @ 8:45 AM ET
Koivu out for the year in Minnesota. Shero should probably see if they are in panic mode and see what they would offer for Mojo.
devilspep
Joined: 07.12.2009

Feb 7 @ 9:12 AM ET
Certainly wouldn't count it out
- willschulme


As much as people say this it's actually pretty rare. Everytime a fan favorite is traded almost never do they turn around and sign back with the team that traded them. Everyone thought the same with Henrique and he is locked up long term in Anaheim.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Feb 7 @ 9:47 AM ET
As much as people say this it's actually pretty rare. Everytime a fan favorite is traded almost never do they turn around and sign back with the team that traded them. Everyone thought the same with Henrique and he is locked up long term in Anaheim.
- devilspep


Yup - and we got a conditional 2019 3rd rounder for them signing him. I'm not surprised Henrique stayed out there. He played well and was pretty successful last year and it's not a bad place to live.
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