I love all the "it's obvious to everyone but Leaf fans that they can't sign these guys now".

Did you guys miss the TSN breakdown of exactly how they can afford all these guys along with projected salaries? Unless you're under the impression that them being off by 100k on the Matthews deal is the straw that broke the camel's back?
The crunch is also only for one year and then Marleau's 6.25 comes off as well.

I know that no one wants to see the Leafs do well but so far Dubas has made all the right moves and it drives people crazy.

P.S. Nylander won't be traded and having him locked at under 7 million is going to be a total bargain.
- MrBen

If Dubas can get all players signed without trading any of the following players then give the man GM of the Year before the season starts:

Matthews (11.634)
Tavares (11.000)
Marner (RFA)
Nylander (6.962)
Marleau (6.250)
Kadri (4.500)
Kapanen (RFA)
Johnsson (RFA)
Rielly (5.000)
Zaitsev (4.500)
Muzzin (4.000)
Andersen (5.000)

Sorry I won't be there. Too busy getting Hughes and Lafreniere.
- Feds91Stammer

Join the crowd. Soon to be in cap heck. .

People just don't even try anymore. You hear one mutt mention something about "cap hell" and everyone runs with it like it must be true. Unless Marner is signing in excess of 10 million per year, they'll be fine.
- MrBen

I’ve done a couple scenarios that either have brown and nylander in s trade for a parayko type player. Or Kadri. Hyman. And Brown for a parayko type player/ cap hit and they are still over the cap between 100k and 300k. That’s with Horton on LTIR. This is with a 83 million cap hit Marner at 10. Kapanen at 3.2 (compared to Toffoli) and Johnsson at 2.5 (compared to Clifford. Pretty sure I lowballed this one as Johnsson Is way better and has arbitration rights).

I used parayko as an example because defense should be targeted if trading said players

People just don't even try anymore. You hear one mutt mention something about "cap hell" and everyone runs with it like it must be true. Unless Marner is signing in excess of 10 million per year, they'll be fine.
- MrBen

Actually I utilize Cap Friendly...

Actually I utilize Cap Friendly...
- Feds91Stammer

As long as Marner signs for 3M per and every other RFA just signs their QO then everything is fine. People just jelly hatin' Laffs

So Detroit?
- Feds91Stammer

Any team that won cups will find themselves in a pickle sooner or later. Detroit were in the playoffs for so long that the high picks weren’t there.
That’s understandable, I’ll gladly accept that if it happens to us.

This blog is about Auston’s contract and Sean Maloughny can’t even put the ridiculous Toronto hatred aside for one second. McDavid is the best blah blah blah

As long as Marner signs for 3M per and every other RFA just signs their QO then everything is fine. People just jelly hatin' Laffs
- Glak18

Marner for 3MM, book it. In a separate deal the CN tower is now his personal condo

Any team that won cups will find themselves in a pickle sooner or later. Detroit were in the playoffs for so long that the high picks weren’t there.
That’s understandable, I’ll gladly accept that if it happens to us.

This blog is about Auston’s contract and Sean Maloughny can’t even put the ridiculous Toronto hatred aside for one second. McDavid is the best blah blah blah
- shack67

Glad the kings won cups before putting themselves in a cap crunch. Wasn’t until Kopitar. Brown. And Doughty signed that they are kind of in a pickle. But they’re trying to rid themselves of some contracts to get younger and rebuild. So now it’s not so bad. Carter might go and Quick is looking more likely to be gone before next season if the right pieces move. Going to silicon but need to rebuild at some point. Hoping they’ll take a stab at Hall when he’s UFA (I believe in 2021).

I love how fans from other teams are so fixated on what the Leafs do. Never have I once looked at another teams cap situation. What good does it do?

Going to be cap problems for this team already and they have accomplished nothing. Unless you count making the playoffs
- sensmelon

well, its not really honest to say they haven't accomplished anything.... what is anything mean? win a cup? if that's the measuring stick than there are a large number of teams who have as of yet not won one.

what have the Leafs managed to accomplish in the past 4 years..
1) tanked... successfully and won the lottery
2) drafted quite well
3) dumped overpriced contracts on teams like Pittsburgh, Ottawa and Columbus
4) started 7-8 rookies in 2016-2017
5) hired one of the best coaches
6) changed the culture
7) completely changed the narrative around the team...

so, yes you can state that they haven't been ultimately successful - not yet having won a cup... but they aren't that far off and its not unrealistic to see them compete at a high level for a few years

if you compare that with the huge success that teams like Ottawa, Nashville, Buffalo and NYIslanders have had...

So Leafs have what $17M to fit 5/6 Fs 2/3 D and a backup G? And that is with no bonus overages rolling over.

well, its not really honest to say they haven't accomplished anything.... what is anything mean? win a cup? if that's the measuring stick than there are a large number of teams who have as of yet not won one.

what have the Leafs managed to accomplish in the past 4 years..
1) tanked... successfully and won the lottery
2) drafted quite well
3) dumped overpriced contracts on teams like Pittsburgh, Ottawa and Columbus
4) started 7-8 rookies in 2016-2017
5) hired one of the best coaches
6) changed the culture
7) completely changed the narrative around the team...

so, yes you can state that they haven't been ultimately successful - not yet having won a cup... but they aren't that far off and its not unrealistic to see them compete at a high level for a few years

if you compare that with the huge success that teams like Ottawa, Nashville, Buffalo and NYIslanders have had...



- BorjeFan4Ever

wut

Who were the other high priced guys that were on the books when Crosby and Ovie signed their deals that ate up an equal percentage of cap?

Mathews left money on the table.

Ides of March : Marner signs for 10 over 8 with the 'C' to sew on.

Who were the other high priced guys that were on the books when Crosby and Ovie signed their deals that ate up an equal percentage of cap?
- fsanford

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I love how fans from other teams are so fixated on what the Leafs do. Never have I once looked at another teams cap situation. What good does it do?
- LeafGuy89

Take a look at Tampa's cap situation. They are going to be losing a ton of players this offseason. They have 10 million to fill like 7 or 8 spots...including Point who is worth 9 million himself.

I love how fans from other teams are so fixated on what the Leafs do. Never have I once looked at another teams cap situation. What good does it do?
- LeafGuy89

I look at every teams cap situation. Not just the Leafs so don’t feel (frank)ing special.

well, its not really honest to say they haven't accomplished anything.... what is anything mean? win a cup? if that's the measuring stick than there are a large number of teams who have as of yet not won one.

what have the Leafs managed to accomplish in the past 4 years..
1) tanked... successfully and won the lottery
2) drafted quite well
3) dumped overpriced contracts on teams like Pittsburgh, Ottawa and Columbus
4) started 7-8 rookies in 2016-2017
5) hired one of the best coaches
6) changed the culture
7) completely changed the narrative around the team...

so, yes you can state that they haven't been ultimately successful - not yet having won a cup... but they aren't that far off and its not unrealistic to see them compete at a high level for a few years

if you compare that with the huge success that teams like Ottawa, Nashville, Buffalo and NYIslanders have had...



- BorjeFan4Ever

Dumped.. overpriced contracts on Pittsburgh? What contract are you referring to? Kessel? The guy who should have won the Conn Smythe in their first cup run with Sully and who’s been around a ppg since joining the Pens? Yeah. Definitely overpriced.

Take a look at Tampa's cap situation. They are going to be losing a ton of players this offseason. They have 10 million to fill like 7 or 8 spots...including Point who is worth 9 million himself.
- Njuice

Geez why are you so fixated on Tampa. What a hater.

I am not clueless and I am not a Leaf hater but I do know how to do basic math...
- Feds91Stammer

In fairness, I think leafs bite the bullet and find someone for either Marleau, Zaitsev or Horton... maybe 2 of them (separate deals) ... using strong holdings such as draft picks (which were fully stocked with, minus the 1st rounder dealt for Muzz... but a 1st rounder is something you don't toss in, in this regard), or prospects (of which were not a bottom feeder in.) .... Dubas has been good so far... Will give him benefit of doubt he will make moves to alleviate any Hall that is perceived

Dumped.. overpriced contracts on Pittsburgh? What contract are you referring to? Kessel? The guy who should have won the Conn Smythe in their first cup run with Sully and who’s been around a ppg since joining the Pens? Yeah. Definitely overpriced.
- j.boyd919

David mother(frank)ing Clarkson baby!

Geez why are you so fixated on Tampa. What a hater.
- Feds91Stammer

I don’t look at any teams cap. I just watch the games.

In fairness, I think leafs bite the bullet and find someone for either Marleau, Zaitsev or Horton... maybe 2 of them (separate deals) ... using strong holdings such as draft picks (which were fully stocked with, minus the 1st rounder dealt for Muzz... but a 1st rounder is something you don't toss in, in this regard), or prospects (of which were not a bottom feeder in.) .... Dubas has been good so far... Will give him benefit of doubt he will make moves to alleviate any Hall that is perceived
- aries1976

Marleau is a 35+ with a NMC. No way he is traded.

Zaitsev is an awful contract but probably the best option to free up cap if packaged with valuable assets.

Horton could be shipped to say AZ with packaged assets however he would be LTIR so it would not effectively free up cap.

David mother(frank)ing Clarkson baby!
- TheMuzzel

Reading is hard eh?