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willi
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada
Joined: 01.30.2015

Feb 6 @ 7:22 PM ET
This is just crazy talk. Holy sh!t. 2nd pairing. Poor Dumo.
- MattStrat


Based on JJs prior 5v5 time on ice, wasn't he playing top 4 (2nd pairing) before ?
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Feb 6 @ 7:27 PM ET
Isn’t that like a store brand tomato sauce?
- Rinosaur

I guess people really are cut off from the rest of the world...
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 6 @ 7:43 PM ET
Based on JJs prior 5v5 time on ice, wasn't he playing top 4 (2nd pairing) before ?
- willi


You mean on other teams?.. If yes, then yes, I'm pretty sure he's seen alot of top 4 action in his career...but.. very large sample size of stats and numbers showing he shouldn't of been. Kings got rid of him for Carter and won the cup that year haha.
willi
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada
Joined: 01.30.2015

Feb 6 @ 7:50 PM ET
You mean on other teams?.. If yes, then yes, I'm pretty sure he's seen alot of top 4 action in his career...but.. very large sample size of stats and numbers showing he shouldn't of been. Kings got rid of him for Carter and won the cup that year haha.
- MattStrat


No sorry, what I was getting at was he was playing too 4 minutes this season so pairing him with Dumolin doesn't mean he's getting a promotion to a top 2 pairing. He's been playing that all season
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 6 @ 8:44 PM ET
Isn’t that like a store brand tomato sauce?
- Rinosaur

Lmao I thought that too
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 6 @ 9:09 PM ET
I guess people really are cut off from the rest of the world...
- martox

I've watched many soccer matches at a bar in the south side here in Pittsburgh called Piper's it's always early morning brunch here but they are fun to watch and get tipsy on a Sunday morning lol. Very awesome brunch, great boxtys, I highly suggest if anyone visits.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Feb 6 @ 9:13 PM ET
you ever heard about "El Classico"?
- martox




Hell yes I have. It's delicious.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 6 @ 9:41 PM ET


Hell yes I have. It's delicious.

- j.boyd919

Lol, do we have a chart on tastyness and texture?!
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 6 @ 10:14 PM ET
Lmao I thought that too
- Feds91Stammer


LOL
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 6 @ 10:14 PM ET


Hell yes I have. It's delicious.

- j.boyd919


Yes!!!
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Feb 6 @ 11:20 PM ET
If you want an opinion about great soccer rivalries in South America (and why not say in the world) here it goes:

Boca Juniors x River Plate (Argentina)

Internacional x Grêmio
Vasco da Gama x Flamengo
Palmeiras x Corínthians (all Brazil)
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

Feb 7 @ 1:26 AM ET
Doesn’t make any sense not to try Blueger with more ice time especially with that release.

We saw Dumo paired with someone else, I can’t remember who. Was it Kola? It was when Letang was out, he still looked solid. Not to mention, our top pairing is also our shutdown pairing. I’m ok trying the new guy up there, but why would I want slow footed Maatta against another teams top line? Sounds like a coaching dream if I’m the opposition. Grateful for the info from the blog, the response could’ve been better imo
joecool2931
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rillton, PA
Joined: 09.03.2015

Feb 7 @ 7:03 AM ET
I'm not super familiar with the big Euro soccer leagues and know (frank) all about cricket so I can't answer that. As far as North American sports? Yankees-Red Socks and Ohio State-Michigan are up there. My NFL nominee would be Eagles-Cowboys. NHL has a lot of equally good ones so its hard to choose. I'd probably pick one of Chicago-Detroit or Boston-Montreal, with the nod to Boston-Montreal since they still play in the same devision.

Pairing those down to which is the best? (frank) man, I don't know. Its tough to compare rivalries cross sports. My nod would probably go to The Game, but its not even my favorite rivalry in college football.

- Victoro311


From an organizational standpt. red sox-yankees is the only thing that competes with el clasico, but i think those rivalries are all in the fans and organizations minds, not in the players ie. none of the players are there long enough to really become invested compared to other sports.

MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 7 @ 7:47 AM ET
Doesn’t make any sense not to try Blueger with more ice time especially with that release.

We saw Dumo paired with someone else, I can’t remember who. Was it Kola? It was when Letang was out, he still looked solid. Not to mention, our top pairing is also our shutdown pairing. I’m ok trying the new guy up there, but why would I want slow footed Maatta against another teams top line? Sounds like a coaching dream if I’m the opposition. Grateful for the info from the blog, the response could’ve been better imo

- WSCTeton17


Was is it the people mostly agreeing with RW (blogger) about JJ/pairings, discussion of great rivalries in sports across the globe, pics of pasta sauce or a combo of any of the aforementioned that have you saying this?
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Feb 7 @ 8:06 AM ET
Doesn’t make any sense not to try Blueger with more ice time especially with that release.

We saw Dumo paired with someone else, I can’t remember who. Was it Kola? It was when Letang was out, he still looked solid. Not to mention, our top pairing is also our shutdown pairing. I’m ok trying the new guy up there, but why would I want slow footed Maatta against another teams top line? Sounds like a coaching dream if I’m the opposition. Grateful for the info from the blog, the response could’ve been better imo

- WSCTeton17



Who the (frank) is Kola?
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Feb 7 @ 8:44 AM ET
Who the (frank) is Kola?
- Guile


Riikola
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Feb 7 @ 9:47 AM ET
Riikola
- j.boyd919



Hmmm... Guess I missed that nickname...
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 7 @ 9:56 AM ET
Maatta Fun Fact: Maatta has played 79 (small sample size alert) 5v5 mins away from JJ, JO, and Riikola.

CF%: 49.1
SCF%: 51.7
HDCF%: 58.5
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Feb 7 @ 10:00 AM ET
Maatta Fun Fact: Maatta has played 79 (small sample size alert) 5v5 mins away from JJ, JO, and Riikola.

CF%: 49.1
SCF%: 51.7
HDCF%: 58.5

- Feds91Stammer



Hrmmm... Sounds like you are implying his partner as Letang in this sample away form those 3.

I'll call it average in CF and SCF, which is fine I guess... HDCF is quite good.

edit: If Dumo can work with Schultz, and Maatta with Letang... go for it. Just bury or dump JJ
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Feb 7 @ 10:12 AM ET
So I think this is something I've been too lazy for... so lets have others do it for me


What are realistic trade targets for JJ? As in... what are other team's JJ type contracted players and would we consider swapping trash for trash?
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 7 @ 10:12 AM ET
Hrmmm... Sounds like you are implying his partner as Letang in this sample away form those 3.

I'll call it average in CF and SCF, which is fine I guess... HDCF is quite good.

edit: If Dumo can work with Schultz, and Maatta with Letang... go for it. Just bury or dump JJ

- Guile



Coaching staff and brass him though, apparently.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 7 @ 10:13 AM ET
So I think this is something I've been too lazy for... so lets have others do it for me


What are realistic trade targets for JJ? As in... what are other team's JJ type contracted players and would we consider swapping trash for trash?

- Guile



4 more years makes it very hard to move him I imagine...but an even bigger obstacle might be that they dont want to move him at all and like him!
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 7 @ 10:15 AM ET
Coaching staff and brass him though, apparently.
- MattStrat


Yup. It's so scary if there's actual truth it.

I'm also incredibly frustrated they've moved Bjugstad already. Out of three games, two looked good with Kessel. I get the mentality of needing to change thing up, but they should also be looking to build on things that have looked good.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Feb 7 @ 10:17 AM ET
4 more years makes it very hard to move him I imagine...but an even bigger obstacle might be that they dont want to move him at all and like him!
- MattStrat



No no no... we are ignoring the coaching staff's fake love to boost his trade value. Other teams have to have some players with 3+ years of utter poop signed to them.

Who are they, and who could we tolerate more?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 7 @ 10:21 AM ET
Hrmmm... Sounds like you are implying his partner as Letang in this sample away form those 3.

I'll call it average in CF and SCF, which is fine I guess... HDCF is quite good.

edit: If Dumo can work with Schultz, and Maatta with Letang... go for it. Just bury or dump JJ

- Guile

Letang 44 mins. Dumo 12 mins. Pettersson 12 mins. Ruhwedel 10 mins. Schultz 1 min.
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