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Who has more upside?
Kole Lind or Tyler Madden - manvanfan
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Yup.
I have liked Sutter, but he is just another member of the no-eventful players on this team, like Erickson, who we are stuck with, Granlund, Beagle(who is fine as a 4th line centre).
Would really be happy if at least 1 more player is gone from this team, before season's end, just hope it is not Sven from concussion issues. - Reubenkincade
Sutter = #foundational
(frank) Sutter and the horse he rode in on, trade him for whatever you can get and put Gaudette in there. At some point Benning is going to have to manage his cap much better because if Pettersson, Boeser and Hughes all workout they're going to get paid handsomely. Wasting money on bottom six guys like he does won't help the teams cap situation in the future?
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Anybody see Ian Cole hit Kuznetsov tonight?
Cole got his face punched in by Tom Wilson and Kuznetsov came back and scored in overtime to win it or something.
It's a bit of a cheap shot by Cole but Kuznetsov made the most of it with the crazy dive.
https://russianmachinenev...-hit-on-evgeny-kuznetsov/
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I like Jake a lot but I think he will never be a high level top 6. As Doug MacLean said Canucks are getting a lot of calls on him. We have a habit of waiting too late to get value for a player.
I think you see who has the best offer . I think if you can get a 2 RHD and a pick or a prospect winger , you take it.
This upcoming year is a year Canucks should be stepping up to the next level. |
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I would like to see Canucks OS Kapanen for 4,059,322.00 cost 2 nd round pick - VANTEL
Benning doesn’t have the balls. He is no Chirelli. |
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I like Jake a lot but I think he will never be a high level top 6. As Doug MacLean said Canucks are getting a lot of calls on him. We have a habit of waiting too late to get value for a player.
I think you see who has the best offer . I think if you can get a 2 RHD and a pick or a prospect winger , you take it.
This upcoming year is a year Canucks should be stepping up to the next level. - VANTEL
I really like your idea of Virtanen for Fabbro. Or Juolevi for Fabbro? |
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Benning doesn’t have the balls. He is no Chirelli. - thundachunk
Sounds like a few GMs might this year let's hope JB grows a pair |
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I like Jake a lot but I think he will never be a high level top 6. As Doug MacLean said Canucks are getting a lot of calls on him. We have a habit of waiting too late to get value for a player.
I think you see who has the best offer . I think if you can get a 2 RHD and a pick or a prospect winger , you take it.
This upcoming year is a year Canucks should be stepping up to the next level. - VANTEL
You are literally talking about making Golfing's worst nightmare come true. He may jump. |
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I really like your idea of Virtanen for Fabbro. Or Juolevi for Fabbro? - LeftCoaster
I would hate to give up on both. |
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I would hate to give up on both. - thundachunk
You're not giving up on either? You're simply addressing a need with an asset. Right shot defence is a need league wide. Nashville has Subban and Ellis and I'm not sure Fabbro wants to sign there (wild guess). |
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You are literally talking about making Golfing's worst nightmare come true. He may jump. - manvanfan
It would need to be a good offer.
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Sounds like a few GMs might this year let's hope JB grows a pair - VANTEL
Lots of talk but I don’t see anyone doing an offer sheet. It’s risky. |
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I would like to see Canucks OS Kapanen for 4,059,322.00 cost 2 nd round pick - VANTEL
Love this idea for kapenen or Johnsson. |
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I'm pretty sure that's full-on sarcasm right there. Virtanen will never be more than he is right now IMO, he just doesn't think the game well enough despite all his physical tools. When he's on, he's great, when he's not, he's really insignificant.
Keep him, trade him, doesn't matter, he won't be the reason the team is successful when it becomes successful. - LeftCoaster
He’s looked much better post break. I think he was worn out / tires. He’s been good the last few games. And looking confident. I think he could be a 25-25 guy that hits. I’m more then ok with that.
He makes some really nice plays now and then. |
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I like Jake a lot but I think he will never be a high level top 6. As Doug MacLean said Canucks are getting a lot of calls on him. We have a habit of waiting too late to get value for a player.
I think you see who has the best offer . I think if you can get a 2 RHD and a pick or a prospect winger , you take it.
This upcoming year is a year Canucks should be stepping up to the next level. - VANTEL
Yeah, Jake is coming up to the Neely games played limit, we traded Neely after 201 games Jake is at 195 so let's move him out. |
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Lots of talk but I don’t see anyone doing an offer sheet. It’s risky. - thundachunk
The low end ones are very reasonable. Kapanen was a very good example of a young guy easily worth a 2nd, arguably worth a 1/2. Problem is getting the player to sign one. |
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Lots of talk but I don’t see anyone doing an offer sheet. It’s risky. - thundachunk
How is it risky? |
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It would need to be a good offer. - VANTEL
It is probably just me but I wouldn't be trading him for less then a mid first round pick in the 16-22 range.
You can call me crazy but looking back at drafts, players that are 30-40 point per season players are generally around the 15-20 ranked in their drafts. |
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You're not giving up on either? You're simply addressing a need with an asset. Right shot defence is a need league wide. Nashville has Subban and Ellis and I'm not sure Fabbro wants to sign there (wild guess). - LeftCoaster
Then you can get him for free in the summer. |
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Yeah, Jake is coming up to the Neely games played limit, we traded Neely after 201 games Jake is at 195 so let's move him out. ![;)](https://hbcf.s3.amazonaws.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif) - A_SteamingLombardi
Jake 29 G 27A
Neely 53 G 53A
I did see the winky face |
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Yeah, Jake is coming up to the Neely games played limit, we traded Neely after 201 games Jake is at 195 so let's move him out. ![;)](https://hbcf.s3.amazonaws.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif) - A_SteamingLombardi
![:lol:](https://hbcf.s3.amazonaws.com/images/emoticons/lol.gif) very similar situation, great comparison! |
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Then you can get him for free in the summer. - manvanfan
Thought it was next summer? |
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Thought it was next summer? - LeftCoaster
Quick check. You are right.
I thought I remembered talks about it being this season at World Juniors but maybe that was him just leaving to sign this season. |
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Thought it was next summer? - LeftCoaster
I think so |
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I really like your idea of Virtanen for Fabbro. Or Juolevi for Fabbro? - LeftCoaster
This is a deal i could live with for sure |
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