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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 8 @ 12:17 AM ET
Who has more upside?

Kole Lind or Tyler Madden

- manvanfan



Both
LeftCoaster
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Buckeye Town USA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 8 @ 12:20 AM ET
Yup.
I have liked Sutter, but he is just another member of the no-eventful players on this team, like Erickson, who we are stuck with, Granlund, Beagle(who is fine as a 4th line centre).
Would really be happy if at least 1 more player is gone from this team, before season's end, just hope it is not Sven from concussion issues.

- Reubenkincade

Sutter = #foundational

(frank) Sutter and the horse he rode in on, trade him for whatever you can get and put Gaudette in there. At some point Benning is going to have to manage his cap much better because if Pettersson, Boeser and Hughes all workout they're going to get paid handsomely. Wasting money on bottom six guys like he does won't help the teams cap situation in the future?

Doesn't hurt now because there's no one to pay in the top six, BIG money I mean, except Boeser next year.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 8 @ 12:22 AM ET
Anybody see Ian Cole hit Kuznetsov tonight?

Cole got his face punched in by Tom Wilson and Kuznetsov came back and scored in overtime to win it or something.

It's a bit of a cheap shot by Cole but Kuznetsov made the most of it with the crazy dive.

https://russianmachinenev...-hit-on-evgeny-kuznetsov/

50 second mark.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 8 @ 12:28 AM ET
I like Jake a lot but I think he will never be a high level top 6. As Doug MacLean said Canucks are getting a lot of calls on him. We have a habit of waiting too late to get value for a player.

I think you see who has the best offer . I think if you can get a 2 RHD and a pick or a prospect winger , you take it.

This upcoming year is a year Canucks should be stepping up to the next level.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Feb 8 @ 12:28 AM ET
I would like to see Canucks OS Kapanen for 4,059,322.00 cost 2 nd round pick
- VANTEL

Benning doesn’t have the balls. He is no Chirelli.
LeftCoaster
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Buckeye Town USA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 8 @ 12:34 AM ET
I like Jake a lot but I think he will never be a high level top 6. As Doug MacLean said Canucks are getting a lot of calls on him. We have a habit of waiting too late to get value for a player.

I think you see who has the best offer . I think if you can get a 2 RHD and a pick or a prospect winger , you take it.

This upcoming year is a year Canucks should be stepping up to the next level.

- VANTEL

I really like your idea of Virtanen for Fabbro. Or Juolevi for Fabbro?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 8 @ 12:34 AM ET
Benning doesn’t have the balls. He is no Chirelli.
- thundachunk



Sounds like a few GMs might this year let's hope JB grows a pair
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 8 @ 12:37 AM ET
I like Jake a lot but I think he will never be a high level top 6. As Doug MacLean said Canucks are getting a lot of calls on him. We have a habit of waiting too late to get value for a player.

I think you see who has the best offer . I think if you can get a 2 RHD and a pick or a prospect winger , you take it.

This upcoming year is a year Canucks should be stepping up to the next level.

- VANTEL

You are literally talking about making Golfing's worst nightmare come true. He may jump.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Feb 8 @ 12:38 AM ET
I really like your idea of Virtanen for Fabbro. Or Juolevi for Fabbro?
- LeftCoaster

I would hate to give up on both.
LeftCoaster
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Buckeye Town USA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 8 @ 12:40 AM ET
I would hate to give up on both.
- thundachunk

You're not giving up on either? You're simply addressing a need with an asset. Right shot defence is a need league wide. Nashville has Subban and Ellis and I'm not sure Fabbro wants to sign there (wild guess).
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 8 @ 12:41 AM ET
You are literally talking about making Golfing's worst nightmare come true. He may jump.
- manvanfan


It would need to be a good offer.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Feb 8 @ 12:41 AM ET
Sounds like a few GMs might this year let's hope JB grows a pair
- VANTEL

Lots of talk but I don’t see anyone doing an offer sheet. It’s risky.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 8 @ 12:42 AM ET
I would like to see Canucks OS Kapanen for 4,059,322.00 cost 2 nd round pick
- VANTEL

Love this idea for kapenen or Johnsson.
canucksfan1944
Joined: 12.13.2016

Feb 8 @ 12:43 AM ET
I'm pretty sure that's full-on sarcasm right there. Virtanen will never be more than he is right now IMO, he just doesn't think the game well enough despite all his physical tools. When he's on, he's great, when he's not, he's really insignificant.

Keep him, trade him, doesn't matter, he won't be the reason the team is successful when it becomes successful.

- LeftCoaster


He’s looked much better post break. I think he was worn out / tires. He’s been good the last few games. And looking confident. I think he could be a 25-25 guy that hits. I’m more then ok with that.

He makes some really nice plays now and then.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 8 @ 12:44 AM ET
I like Jake a lot but I think he will never be a high level top 6. As Doug MacLean said Canucks are getting a lot of calls on him. We have a habit of waiting too late to get value for a player.

I think you see who has the best offer . I think if you can get a 2 RHD and a pick or a prospect winger , you take it.

This upcoming year is a year Canucks should be stepping up to the next level.

- VANTEL

Yeah, Jake is coming up to the Neely games played limit, we traded Neely after 201 games Jake is at 195 so let's move him out.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 8 @ 12:45 AM ET
Lots of talk but I don’t see anyone doing an offer sheet. It’s risky.
- thundachunk

The low end ones are very reasonable. Kapanen was a very good example of a young guy easily worth a 2nd, arguably worth a 1/2. Problem is getting the player to sign one.
canucksfan1944
Joined: 12.13.2016

Feb 8 @ 12:45 AM ET
Lots of talk but I don’t see anyone doing an offer sheet. It’s risky.
- thundachunk


How is it risky?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 8 @ 12:51 AM ET
It would need to be a good offer.
- VANTEL

It is probably just me but I wouldn't be trading him for less then a mid first round pick in the 16-22 range.

You can call me crazy but looking back at drafts, players that are 30-40 point per season players are generally around the 15-20 ranked in their drafts.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 8 @ 12:52 AM ET
You're not giving up on either? You're simply addressing a need with an asset. Right shot defence is a need league wide. Nashville has Subban and Ellis and I'm not sure Fabbro wants to sign there (wild guess).
- LeftCoaster

Then you can get him for free in the summer.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 8 @ 12:52 AM ET
Yeah, Jake is coming up to the Neely games played limit, we traded Neely after 201 games Jake is at 195 so let's move him out.
- A_SteamingLombardi



Jake 29 G 27A
Neely 53 G 53A


I did see the winky face
LeftCoaster
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Buckeye Town USA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 8 @ 12:53 AM ET
Yeah, Jake is coming up to the Neely games played limit, we traded Neely after 201 games Jake is at 195 so let's move him out.
- A_SteamingLombardi

very similar situation, great comparison!
LeftCoaster
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Buckeye Town USA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 8 @ 12:53 AM ET
Then you can get him for free in the summer.
- manvanfan

Thought it was next summer?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 8 @ 12:55 AM ET
Thought it was next summer?
- LeftCoaster

Quick check. You are right.

I thought I remembered talks about it being this season at World Juniors but maybe that was him just leaving to sign this season.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 8 @ 12:57 AM ET
Thought it was next summer?
- LeftCoaster


I think so
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 8 @ 1:00 AM ET
I really like your idea of Virtanen for Fabbro. Or Juolevi for Fabbro?
- LeftCoaster

This is a deal i could live with for sure
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