Interesting fact just mentioned on the Score670.

Patrick Kane is the last #1 overall pick to win a Stanley Cup with the team that drafted him.

Still want to lose for Hughes?

I said in the last blog what bears repeating: you should not expect to keep winning if you trade Gus.

You can bet down the playoff stretch some team is going to get very physical against us if not an entire game, then at least for half the game kick our *ss. They could then just play rough defensively after building an insurmountable lead.

Other teams could follow the example. We are loving the almost make belief winning and if not for the PP we would not have the current winning streak

Those who think Toewes is so great again.....yeah. Sure as long as the team plays bad teams and no one is especially physical. Sorry to hurt feelings but Toewes is fragile nowadays and will not engage regularly in physical confrontations. Instead he will avoid contact.

You see Toewes still cares deeply and gets mad at himself when he fails. It is just the wear and tear on his body and too many concussions......another bad concussion and he will join Crawford on sidelines calling it a career.

Meanwhile Forsling appears like he will play himself out of a job if he has inconsistent games. You can love Jokiharju all you want but he too will fall out of favor if he cannot adjust to the physical nature of the NHL. He is so young and he can get stronger. It is really more about how bad do guys want success + at what price they will make that sacrifice.

Back to Gus: he will not get traded now because he is needed blemishes included insofar as the pp can help win games. Think Ricky and McDonough want fans to keep coming and a competitive team right now therefire needs Gus. If and when one or more prospects can take someone job, this is when Gus could be dealt. I do not see this happening soon.

If Bowman does not add enough toughness then I do not see this team able to play even .500 hockey.

From LeBrun's piece in the Ahtletic: 'Anisimov available?
Hearing that the Blackhawks would move forward Artem Anisimov for the right price. His role has decreased in Chicago this season. I don’t get the sense the ‘Hawks are actively shopping him, but for the right offer they would listen.

The 30-year-old Anisimov is not a rental, he’s got two more years on his deal after this season at a $4.55-million cap hit although the actual cash owed to him is $4 million next year and $3 million in the last season.

Anisimov has a 10-team list of teams he would go to as part of his modified no-trade clause. So his camp has some say in how a potential deal would play out.

I wonder if Columbus wouldn’t be a fit in terms of re-acquiring him? The allure here would be that they know the player and that he’s signed past this year. If Columbus adds, I think the Jackets would like a player under contract, especially if they ship out Panarin in a separate deal.

What I don’t know is whether Columbus is on Anisimov’s list of teams.'

God I would love to move him out for futures. Clear up space, clear up dead weight on the ice. I honestly wouldn't be that shocked if somehow Stan traded him back to Columbus along with other pieces for Panarin before the deadline.

Something like:
-Anisimov
-Forsling
-Conditional 4th that turns into a 2nd if Panarin resigns in Chicago

for

-Panarin

It doesn't seem like much, but Stan and Jarmo have a history. And Columbus is at risk of losing him for nothing, although I think that other teams might offer more for a Panarin rental.

Stan trades CC to AZ so they can put him on IR.

Panarin and Bob have same agent, so they will sign same deals (theres our new Toews/Kane tandem)

It's aaaaallllllll... part of the plan.
- HawksHype

I said in the last blog what bears repeating: you should not expect to keep winning if you trade Gus.

You can bet down the playoff stretch some team is going to get very physical against us if not an entire game, then at least for half the game kick our *ss. They could then just play rough defensively after building an insurmountable lead.

Other teams could follow the example. We are loving the almost make belief winning and if not for the PP we would not have the current winning streak

Those who think Toewes is so great again.....yeah. Sure as long as the team plays bad teams and no one is especially physical. Sorry to hurt feelings but Toewes is fragile nowadays and will not engage regularly in physical confrontations. Instead he will avoid contact.

You see Toewes still cares deeply and gets mad at himself when he fails. It is just the wear and tear on his body and too many concussions......another bad concussion and he will join Crawford on sidelines calling it a career.

Meanwhile Forsling appears like he will play himself out of a job if he has inconsistent games. You can love Jokiharju all you want but he too will fall out of favor if he cannot adjust to the physical nature of the NHL. He is so young and he can get stronger. It is really more about how bad do guys want success + at what price they will make that sacrifice.

Back to Gus: he will not get traded now because he is needed blemishes included insofar as the pp can help win games. Think Ricky and McDonough want fans to keep coming and a competitive team right now therefire needs Gus. If and when one or more prospects can take someone job, this is when Gus could be dealt. I do not see this happening soon.

If Bowman does not add enough toughness then I do not see this team able to play even .500 hockey.
- jhawk59

Yes to all.

Look at the schedule remaining now and you will see that a .500 finish to the balance of the season may be the best they will do. To your point of other teams, even if not doing well, will likely up their efforts t stay in contention for a spot, and if the physical aspect is what they bring that does not bode well.

Interesting fact just mentioned on the Score670.

Patrick Kane is the last #1 overall pick to win a Stanley Cup with the team that drafted him.

Still want to lose for Hughes?
- scottak

Rather have Kakko

From LeBrun's piece in the Ahtletic: 'Anisimov available?
Hearing that the Blackhawks would move forward Artem Anisimov for the right price. His role has decreased in Chicago this season. I don’t get the sense the ‘Hawks are actively shopping him, but for the right offer they would listen.

The 30-year-old Anisimov is not a rental, he’s got two more years on his deal after this season at a $4.55-million cap hit although the actual cash owed to him is $4 million next year and $3 million in the last season.

Anisimov has a 10-team list of teams he would go to as part of his modified no-trade clause. So his camp has some say in how a potential deal would play out.

I wonder if Columbus wouldn’t be a fit in terms of re-acquiring him? The allure here would be that they know the player and that he’s signed past this year. If Columbus adds, I think the Jackets would like a player under contract, especially if they ship out Panarin in a separate deal.

What I don’t know is whether Columbus is on Anisimov’s list of teams.'

God I would love to move him out for futures. Clear up space, clear up dead weight on the ice. I honestly wouldn't be that shocked if somehow Stan traded him back to Columbus along with other pieces for Panarin before the deadline.

Something like:
-Anisimov
-Forsling
-Conditional 4th that turns into a 2nd if Panarin resigns in Chicago

for

-Panarin

It doesn't seem like much, but Stan and Jarmo have a history. And Columbus is at risk of losing him for nothing, although I think that other teams might offer more for a Panarin rental.
- ObeseOprah

I don't think Columbus is trading either Panarin or Bobrovsky. I think they go all in, they are not going to get equal value back in a trade, Torts is not the coach you want for a rebuild, and this is the one chance they have to win it all.

Just remember RE: Pittsburgh, along with Sullivan came Rust, Sheary and Sheahan (seasoned with lots of time together in Wilkes-Barre to mature) as well as Murray who stood on his head for them. Not entirely analogous, but on the similar path in some ways.
- Return of the Roar

I like the progression so far of Hawks who are more or less Rookies. Strome has been great since he arrived. He's 21 and had less than 50 games in the NHL when he arrived. Kahun has improved since day 1 and as a 23 year old in his first year in north america has been fine, there is still more room until he hits his ceiling. Kampf has shown he belongs and can be a 3C or an energy 4C. On the backed, the book on Koekkoek is still open, he was a high pick, has size and skills, time will tell. Jokiharju will see regular time on the top pair next season, he is in the Rock now most likely so they can get a look at the other D-men who they may move or because they are out of options.

From LeBrun's piece in the Ahtletic: 'Anisimov available?
Hearing that the Blackhawks would move forward Artem Anisimov for the right price. His role has decreased in Chicago this season. I don’t get the sense the ‘Hawks are actively shopping him, but for the right offer they would listen.

The 30-year-old Anisimov is not a rental, he’s got two more years on his deal after this season at a $4.55-million cap hit although the actual cash owed to him is $4 million next year and $3 million in the last season.

Anisimov has a 10-team list of teams he would go to as part of his modified no-trade clause. So his camp has some say in how a potential deal would play out.

I wonder if Columbus wouldn’t be a fit in terms of re-acquiring him? The allure here would be that they know the player and that he’s signed past this year. If Columbus adds, I think the Jackets would like a player under contract, especially if they ship out Panarin in a separate deal.

What I don’t know is whether Columbus is on Anisimov’s list of teams.'

God I would love to move him out for futures. Clear up space, clear up dead weight on the ice. I honestly wouldn't be that shocked if somehow Stan traded him back to Columbus along with other pieces for Panarin before the deadline.

Something like:
-Anisimov
-Forsling
-Conditional 4th that turns into a 2nd if Panarin resigns in Chicago

for

-Panarin

It doesn't seem like much, but Stan and Jarmo have a history. And Columbus is at risk of losing him for nothing, although I think that other teams might offer more for a Panarin rental.
- ObeseOprah

Would you do this in hopes of signing Panarin long term, or just to get rid of AA and have Panarin for the rest of this year?

The only slight hesitation I have with dumping AA, is that we really have nothing coming in the short term behind him.

I don't think Columbus is trading either Panarin or Bobrovsky. I think they go all in, they are not going to get equal value back in a trade, Torts is not the coach you want for a rebuild, and this is the one chance they have to win it all.
- LAHawk

You're probably right. The Jackets are in a playoff spot and I can't see them just folding up like that, it would send a terrible message to their fans.

That being said, if there's a similar type of deal to the Pitt/Fla recent trade then they might go for it.

Would you do this in hopes of signing Panarin long term, or just to get rid of AA and have Panarin for the rest of this year?

The only slight hesitation I have with dumping AA, is that we really have nothing coming in the short term behind him.
- Chunk

That's true, but we could sign a guy like Spezza, Thompson, Tanev, or Boyle for $2M or so. Saves us $2M over Anisimov, and AA has proven he's incapable of putting up points when Kane isn't on the ice.

Interesting fact just mentioned on the Score670.

Patrick Kane is the last #1 overall pick to win a Stanley Cup with the team that drafted him.

Still want to lose for Hughes?
- scottak

Not entirely surprising. #1 overall picks normally go to terrible teams. It takes a lot more than one guy to win a cup. It's not until you build the rest of the team around them that you normally get the better results.

God I would love to move him out for futures. Clear up space, clear up dead weight on the ice. I honestly wouldn't be that shocked if somehow Stan traded him back to Columbus along with other pieces for Panarin before the deadline.

Something like:
-Anisimov
-Forsling
-Conditional 4th that turns into a 2nd if Panarin resigns in Chicago

for

-Panarin

It doesn't seem like much, but Stan and Jarmo have a history. And Columbus is at risk of losing him for nothing, although I think that other teams might offer more for a Panarin rental.
- ObeseOprah

Why do people?

I said in the last blog what bears repeating: you should not expect to keep winning if you trade Gus.

You can bet down the playoff stretch some team is going to get very physical against us if not an entire game, then at least for half the game kick our *ss. They could then just play rough defensively after building an insurmountable lead.

Other teams could follow the example. We are loving the almost make belief winning and if not for the PP we would not have the current winning streak

Those who think Toewes is so great again.....yeah. Sure as long as the team plays bad teams and no one is especially physical. Sorry to hurt feelings but Toewes is fragile nowadays and will not engage regularly in physical confrontations. Instead he will avoid contact.

You see Toewes still cares deeply and gets mad at himself when he fails. It is just the wear and tear on his body and too many concussions......another bad concussion and he will join Crawford on sidelines calling it a career.

Meanwhile Forsling appears like he will play himself out of a job if he has inconsistent games. You can love Jokiharju all you want but he too will fall out of favor if he cannot adjust to the physical nature of the NHL. He is so young and he can get stronger. It is really more about how bad do guys want success + at what price they will make that sacrifice.

Back to Gus: he will not get traded now because he is needed blemishes included insofar as the pp can help win games. Think Ricky and McDonough want fans to keep coming and a competitive team right now therefire needs Gus. If and when one or more prospects can take someone job, this is when Gus could be dealt. I do not see this happening soon.

If Bowman does not add enough toughness then I do not see this team able to play even .500 hockey.
- jhawk59

That is just incorrect. It's just as incorrect as all the statements over that last 2 years that had Toews dead, buried, done. No Player, especially those in their 30's will still play the same physical game they did when they are younger. Toews still plays along the boards, in front of the net and will put a body on someone. He is not a point per game player this year because he has only played weak teams.

In terms of being one concussion away from the end of his career, that statement applies to EVERY player in the league.

Rather have Kakko
- Return of the Roar

Me too.

Hawks are going to make the playoffs.

The way they are playing is exciting and could handcuff a few teams that are too system reliant.

Reminds me of the year before the first Kane-era cup. Watching Hawks v Wings in conference final, Hawks "kids" were flying.

I'm not sure if you need to be a physical presence in today's NHL? Yes, its nice to have a couple of guys to sit in front of that goal but speed kills.

If we are out in first round of playoffs because we aren't physical enough then isn't Calgary the same way???

Hawks are going to make the playoffs.

The way they are playing is exciting and could handcuff a few teams that are too system reliant.

Reminds me of the year before the first Kane-era cup. Watching Hawks v Wings in conference final, Hawks "kids" were flying.
- ghostibator

You stop it right now with your optimism!

Hawks are going to make the playoffs.

The way they are playing is exciting and could handcuff a few teams that are too system reliant.

Reminds me of the year before the first Kane-era cup. Watching Hawks v Wings in conference final, Hawks "kids" were flying.
- ghostibator

The 2009 team in the year before the 2010 Cup was infinitely more talented than this group, starting with a young, future Norris/HOF defenseman, and a future HOF center & wing Nothing like those guys on this roster. Except an older version of those same guys.

I mean, Strome and DCat are nice players, but Toronto hasn’t started to carve their HOF plaques yet.

I'm not sure if you need to be a physical presence in today's NHL? Yes, its nice to have a couple of guys to sit in front of that goal but speed kills.

If we are out in first round of playoffs because we aren't physical enough then isn't Calgary the same way???
- BlackhawkMike

Dallas statistically is bigger on defense but a top 3 of heiskanen, klingberg, and Lindell sure doesn't put fear in opposing forwards.

Agreed 100% Justin/Tyler/??

Entertaining hockey is all you can ask for as a Hawks fan.

Dallas statistically is bigger on defense but a top 3 of heiskanen, klingberg, and Lindell sure doesn't put fear in opposing forwards.
- LAHawk

I take their top 3 over (any of) our top 3 10/10 times. In fact, it’s not even close (right now).

Agreed 100% Justin/Tyler/??

Entertaining hockey is all you can ask for as a Hawks fan.


- EnzoD

I get excited because the players seem excited/energized as opposed to last year, and at the beginning of this year.

I think he has been getting better with more time. The initial problem I had with him is that I didn't know what to expect from him (is he more offensive, defensive, etc). I don't mind him, but I don't think he is anything notably special. If you are rotating Forsling, Koekkeok, and Dahlstrom, I think they are all about the same guy with Dahlstrom being a bit steadier defensively.

All that said, I would much rather Joki was back up.
- Chunk

I think Koekkoek looks like he doesn't have the offensive awareness of a guy like Forsling who has been making some great passes, but might be a bit more solid defensively. It seems to be like Koekkoek ceiling might be 6/7th man, but we need that kind of player too.

Not entirely surprising. #1 overall picks normally go to terrible teams. It takes a lot more than one guy to win a cup. It's not until you build the rest of the team around them that you normally get the better results.
- Chunk

Next #1 OA pick to win a cup could be with the Avalanche...