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Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot! Joined: 09.01.2012
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Not that it matters because none if it worked out but Neuvirth was signed because the needed someone to expose in the ED, to protect Stolarz.
Elliott was serviceable until he got injured. To me, Hextall's biggest problem was holding on to players they didn't need. I know he didn't like having dead money against the cap but they had plenty of space to buyout Neurvirth this summer. - FlyerFan16
Ellliott never stood a chance because we signed him at age 32. Neuvirth was already injury prone before we extended him. Neither of them were good ideas. |
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dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ Joined: 10.12.2015
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Not that it matters because none if it worked out but Neuvirth was signed because the needed someone to expose in the ED, to protect Stolarz.
Elliott was serviceable until he got injured. To me, Hextall's biggest problem was holding on to players they didn't need. I know he didn't like having dead money against the cap but they had plenty of space to buyout Neurvirth this summer. - FlyerFan16
I truly believe Hextall expected Hart ready for next year. So he had Elliott who was serviceable (16th in gaa and 21st in sv pct) and three other guys to fill the net here. Yes he could have bought out Neuvirth. But why extend that cap hit into next year when you got the space this season.
The issues started getting ugly when injures to all added up to only one of them healthy and a couple of waiver claims needed to be made to fill time as Hart really wasn't ready yet, per his coach.
Add to that Provy and Ghost struggling, and poor power play from a unit that had been good and it's a recipe for what we saw.
I won't mention the PK because that was bad last year |
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SuperSchennBros
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Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot! Joined: 09.01.2012
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Did anyone see the Nashville fan behind Pierre McGuire and Oreilly interview? |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Not that it matters because none if it worked out but Neuvirth was signed because the needed someone to expose in the ED, to protect Stolarz.
Elliott was serviceable until he got injured. To me, Hextall's biggest problem was holding on to players they didn't need. I know he didn't like having dead money against the cap but they had plenty of space to buyout Neurvirth this summer. - FlyerFan16
This goes back to the Mason situation. That's why Neuvirth got the deal he did. In my opinion Hextall weighed the situation and he certainly gambled on the health of Neuvirth and Elliott. It back fired on him. He chose to do that over another avenue of a buyout for Neuvirth and signing another goalie or trading for one. I agree with not buying out Neuvirth. In the big picture, this season will be just a road bump on the journey.
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dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ Joined: 10.12.2015
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This goes back to the Mason situation. That's why Neuvirth got the deal he did. In my opinion Hextall weighed the situation and he certainly gambled on the health of Neuvirth and Elliott. It back fired on him. He chose to do that over another avenue of a buyout for Neuvirth and signing another goalie or trading for one. I agree with not buying out Neuvirth. In the big picture, this season will be just a road bump on the journey. - MJL
Yep Mason and the expansion draft.
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FlyerFan16
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Location: CT Joined: 09.21.2014
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The old regime of Hakstol and Hextall did a lot of things that maybe wasn't the best thing to win now, but was best in the long run. Moving Giroux to the wing and lessening his load was one of them. - MJL
I understand what the thought was but this team is much better with G at center and on the PK.
Would have been different if they didn't lose out on Stastny.
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SuperSchennBros
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Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot! Joined: 09.01.2012
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SuperSchennBros
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Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot! Joined: 09.01.2012
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This goes back to the Mason situation. That's why Neuvirth got the deal he did. In my opinion Hextall weighed the situation and he certainly gambled on the health of Neuvirth and Elliott. It back fired on him. He chose to do that over another avenue of a buyout for Neuvirth and signing another goalie or trading for one. I agree with not buying out Neuvirth. In the big picture, this season will be just a road bump on the journey. - MJL
If I were GM, I would have brought back Steve Mason. I thought we had our guy in Mason. |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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I understand what the thought was but this team is much better with G at center and on the PK.
- FlyerFan16
Absolutely. The issue though is the wear and tear worth it and for what? To make a run at getting closer to the playoffs. To me cutting down the wear and tear on Giroux with the possibility of extending the amount of time that he remains a top player has more value.
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dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ Joined: 10.12.2015
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I understand what the thought was but this team is much better with G at center and on the PK.
Would have been different if they didn't lose out on Stastny. - FlyerFan16
Not sure where things with any 2C or 3C free agent was but that would have kept G on wing.
Weal or Vorovyev work it out and things are fine also. Everyone wants the kids to play. Finally those two got a chance and it failed. But we move G back to late. If you moved him earlier then one of those two didn't get the chance.
Damned if you do damned if you don't... |
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FlyerFan16
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Location: CT Joined: 09.21.2014
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I truly believe Hextall expected Hart ready for next year. So he had Elliott who was serviceable (16th in gaa and 21st in sv pct) and three other guys to fill the net here. Yes he could have bought out Neuvirth. But why extend that cap hit into next year when you got the space this season.
The issues started getting ugly when injures to all added up to only one of them healthy and a couple of waiver claims needed to be made to fill time as Hart really wasn't ready yet, per his coach.
Add to that Provy and Ghost struggling, and poor power play from a unit that had been good and it's a recipe for what we saw.
I won't mention the PK because that was bad last year - dragonoffrost
I get it but it wasn't a significant amount that would have hit the cap next year. It was clear to me all along Hextall was just buying time until Hart was ready. Whether it was this year or next year.
I wasn't one screaming over the goalie situation this year because it was clear to me what Hextall was doing. It just turned out bad because Elliott, Neuvrith and Lyon were all injured at the start of the season and everyone jumped on it.
Personally, I would have done whatever I could have to not have Neuvirth and Weise on the roster when the season started but none of that is season changing and Weise started the season pretty well actually.
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xShoot4WarAmpsx
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 06.25.2010
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You sure are one hell of a ladies man.
And yeah, this mindset makes you a douchebag, not to mention your take that men have no emotional connection to their children whatsoever. - jmatchett383
I never said that, I just said it isnt the same as a woman's bond. In any case lets not open that can of worms again.
As far as being a ladies man Im in between. Women flirt with me all the time, I usually dont pick up on it until its too late. Strangely I do better with women who are already in relationships. Had some real awkward moments with my friends girlfriend. |
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SuperSchennBros
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Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot! Joined: 09.01.2012
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Absolutely. The issue though is the wear and tear worth it and for what? To make a run at getting closer to the playoffs. To me cutting down the wear and tear on Giroux with the possibility of extending the amount of time that he remains a top player has more value. - MJL
Plenty of number one cente kill penalties. We’re lucky to have a guy who is competitive and willing to take on the role. I have zero problem with G on the PK. |
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Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot! Joined: 09.01.2012
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For the record, as think is one of the all time great Flyers and not only should we enjoy this. We should push every year to win for him. |
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hereticpride
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Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
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If I were GM, I would have brought back Steve Mason. I thought we had our guy in Mason. - SuperSchennBros
Mason was vocal at the end that he didn't feel like he should have to share the crease even when he was struggling, which was becoming quite often tbh. To me that's putting yourself before the team and the fact he was basically quickly out of the league after that didn't shock me at all. |
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MBFlyerfan
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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Plenty of number one cente kill penalties. We’re lucky to have a guy who is competitive and willing to take on the role. I have zero problem with G on the PK. - SuperSchennBros
But I think we can all agree the best possible scenario is getting another center, either internally or in trade, who can allow for him to switch back to LW and take some of the heavy lifting off his shoulders moving forward. (meaning next season and beyond.)
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SuperSchennBros
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Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot! Joined: 09.01.2012
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Mason was vocal at the end that he didn't feel like he should have to share the crease even when he was struggling, which was becoming quite often tbh. To me that's putting yourself before the team and the fact he was basically quickly out of the league after that didn't shock me at all. - hereticpride
I don’t blame him. I remember a Canadian western road trip where we overly used Neuvirth. Was Mason our starter or not? Hakstol was a really bad ouch in my mind. |
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Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot! Joined: 09.01.2012
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But I think we can all agree the best possible scenario is getting another center, either internally or in trade, who can allow for him to switch back to LW and take some of the heavy lifting off his shoulders moving forward. (meaning next season and beyond.) - MBFlyerfan
I agree. I’m a huge fan of fourth liners who win faceoffs and kill penalties. I’m a huge fan of the Blair Betts, Jimmy Dowd’s, Claude Lapointe’s of the world. I want Luke Glendening on this team. Vorobyev and Verone aren’t gonna cut it. |
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Ummm why haven’t I gotten my apology from 5-2 prediction? |
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SuperSchennBros
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Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot! Joined: 09.01.2012
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Not sure where things with any 2C or 3C free agent was but that would have kept G on wing.
Weal or Vorovyev work it out and things are fine also. Everyone wants the kids to play. Finally those two got a chance and it failed. But we move G back to late. If you moved him earlier then one of those two didn't get the chance.
Damned if you do damned if you don't... - dragonoffrost
Weal and Vorobyev were not good third line players. Bad from the start. You could see it the entire season. Vorobyev isn’t a third line player now. It was always a matter of splitting G and Coots. |
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DeflatedPucks
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Location: NYC, NY Joined: 04.29.2016
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No I am not. I have no problems with equal rights but with that means us Men shouldnt have to cater to them anymore. Equal rights means equal pay and equal opportunity, there is no reason aside from me hosting the date at my place to pay so I can get to know her.
Same goes for the bus, buses are frequently filled. If there is something that makes it a danger for you to stand I will give up my seat no problem. For everyone else, they can stand just like I would if no seats were available to me.
The fact that she is a woman does not change the way I treat her. I will treat her the same as everyone else aside from the fact I might want to bang her. - xShoot4WarAmpsx
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dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ Joined: 10.12.2015
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Weal and Vorobyev were not good third line players. Bad from the start. You could see it the entire season. Vorobyev isn’t a third line player now. It was always a matter of splitting G and Coots. - SuperSchennBros
You are always right... I'm wrong. Good night |
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xShoot4WarAmpsx
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 06.25.2010
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You are always right... I'm wrong. Good night - dragonoffrost
Gotta agree with him there. Weal was mostly garbage. He rarely played at a leve suitable for a 3rd line play. Misha hasnt been that great either. He has shown some flashes but he hasnt been good enough. |
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Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi. Joined: 02.04.2009
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I’ll take Randy Carlyle. - SuperSchennBros
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Mordecai
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Location: not very poggers Joined: 08.27.2015
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I’ll take Randy Carlyle. - SuperSchennBros
worst post of the month, possibly the year |
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