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Frizzlefry
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Don't get so high and mighty about your superiority over Lockport, NY
Joined: 10.10.2015

Feb 11 @ 8:12 PM ET
https://buffalonews.com/2...obotka-analytics-minutes/


- TheSabresTaco


Possibly one of the best gifs out there.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 11 @ 8:16 PM ET
I’ve argued it for 3 months.

CJ Smith should be an NHL regular and we should have pushed to get a better center than Sobotka after the win streak.

- sbroads24



The point of the article is that we could probably get better at several positions by just playing guys in the AHL, or guys that Botts did not acquire in trades.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 11 @ 8:28 PM ET
The point of the article is that we could probably get better at several positions by just playing guys in the AHL, or guys that Botts did not acquire in trades.
- Der Kaiser



I think the article proves that the line up decisions are a group venture.
That jbotts maybe influencing who's playing, who's in buffalo/Rochester ect.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 11 @ 8:31 PM ET
I think the article proves that the line up decisions are a group venture.
That jbotts maybe influencing who's playing, who's in buffalo/Rochester ect.

- Boss34



There was a tweet like that last week.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 11 @ 8:37 PM ET
There was a tweet like that last week.
- Der Kaiser


It's funny, I recently heard that botts isnt quite a laid back personality .

Aside from the alleged nacho bar incident, botts seems calm, cool and collected.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 11 @ 8:45 PM ET
It's funny, I recently heard that botts isnt quite a laid back personality .

Aside from the alleged nacho bar incident, botts seems calm, cool and collected.

- Boss34



I must be getting very very boring. I actually spent the time to find that tweet.

And I was right, there is a tweet. But it has a problem.

https://twitter.com/ByMHa...tatus/1093936740325310465

It's from Harrington.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 11 @ 8:46 PM ET
It's funny, I recently heard that botts isnt quite a laid back personality .

Aside from the alleged nacho bar incident, botts seems calm, cool and collected.

- Boss34


He is a former professional athlete. I don't think many of them are laid back, in the conventional sense
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 11 @ 8:55 PM ET
I must be getting very very boring. I actually spent the time to find that tweet.

And I was right, there is a tweet. But it has a problem.

https://twitter.com/ByMHa...tatus/1093936740325310465

It's from Harrington.

- Der Kaiser



Good post

Good question?

So maybe botts is telling phail to play sobotka the 4th most minutes of any forward on the sabres.
- starting hutton
- keep starting scandella
-call up cj , but bench him

I'm not sure what boundaries the gm has.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.01.2016

Feb 11 @ 8:57 PM ET
I think the article proves that the line up decisions are a group venture.
That jbotts maybe influencing who's playing, who's in buffalo/Rochester ect.

- Boss34

Dude thats his literal job, as the actual GM. He picks the roster. That. Is. His. Job.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 11 @ 8:59 PM ET
Good post

Good question?

So maybe botts is telling phail to play sobotka the 4th most minutes of any forward on the sabres.
- starting hutton
- keep starting scandella
-call up cj , but bench him

I'm not sure what boundaries the gm has.

- Boss34



Its weird too. He's the one who got Beaulieu but has decided to let Scandella keep going when NB in my view is at least as effective as MS. Even in the girlfriend department (they both have smokeshows for ladies).
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Feb 11 @ 9:03 PM ET
Where would ol’ Ronnie Rolston have this team right now?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 11 @ 9:08 PM ET
Where would ol’ Ronnie Rolston have this team right now?
- PrinceChill


Thrown on his garden gloves and gotten to work
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.17.2007

Feb 11 @ 9:08 PM ET
Where would ol’ Ronnie Rolston have this team right now?
- PrinceChill

Why does it matter, he was a horrible coach.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Feb 11 @ 9:12 PM ET
Why does it matter, he was a horrible coach.
- SABRES 89

I chuckled
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 11 @ 9:36 PM ET
Its weird too. He's the one who got Beaulieu but has decided to let Scandella keep going when NB in my view is at least as effective as MS. Even in the girlfriend department (they both have smokeshows for ladies).
- Der Kaiser



Why wouldn't jbotts want phail to play beaulieu?
Good question

As well as hunwick? A jbotts guy.

Continue to play okposo?

Maybe we'll have answers at the deadline.





jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 11 @ 9:42 PM ET
Why wouldn't jbotts want phail to play beaulieu?
Good question

As well as hunwick? A jbotts guy.

Continue to play okposo?

Maybe we'll have answers at the deadline.

- Boss34


I'm 85% sure the Sabres will make no NHL moves at the deadline
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Feb 11 @ 9:46 PM ET
Why wouldn't jbotts want phail to play beaulieu?
Good question

As well as hunwick? A jbotts guy.

Continue to play okposo?

Maybe we'll have answers at the deadline.

- Boss34


This JB guy vs not JB guy thing is pure fiction. They are trying to win games with a very young lineup.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 11 @ 9:49 PM ET
I'm 85% sure the Sabres will make no NHL moves at the deadline
- jcragcrumple



I can see small deal or 2.

Probably add an ahl player to boost Rochester for the playoffs.

Trade away bowl u for a 4th

Skinner if he really wants to be a ufa July 1st.

The draft , July 1st and the off season in general seems like jbotts timing
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 11 @ 9:53 PM ET
This JB guy vs not JB guy thing is pure fiction. They are trying to win games with a very young lineup.
- Lunaion




So phail is making all the line up calls - that's a fact?????

Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Feb 11 @ 9:56 PM ET
So phail is making all the line up calls - that's a fact?????
- Boss34


said nothing of the sort, there's no question JB's involved
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 11 @ 10:03 PM ET
said nothing of the sort, there's no question JB's involved
- Lunaion



Then wouldn't human nature lead jbotts to play "his guys"?

See:
Tall Tage sticking with buffalo
Scandella has struggled but stays in the line up

I feel like it's a management team, but to what degree?
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Feb 11 @ 10:12 PM ET
Then wouldn't human nature lead jbotts to play "his guys"?

See:
Tall Tage sticking with buffalo
Scandella has struggled but stays in the line up

I feel like it's a management team, but to what degree?

- Boss34


I'm not going to say it's no factor. He's acquiring guys he thinks are good fits. You've pointed to JB guys who don't play....I just don't think there's anything underhanded going on here. They want to win.

Tage is a top 4 RW in the organization. Don't think that's debatable, despite his struggles.

I'd love to know what they say about Scandella behind closed doors. I'm not sure what they really think about analytics, but I'm sure they are aware of the numbers.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Feb 11 @ 10:22 PM ET
Well, if there is one thing about Botts that you can almost say with certainty is you’ll never have to worry about a time where he wore blackface. There’s no way. Too much of a straight edge. Dude hasn’t gone through a yellow light in his life.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Feb 11 @ 10:25 PM ET
Well, if there is one thing about Botts that you can almost say with certainty is you’ll never have to worry about a time where he wore blackface. There’s no way. Too much of a straight edge. Dude hasn’t gone through a yellow light in his life.
- Hatboro_Swords

Thanks for nothing
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 11 @ 10:27 PM ET
I'm not going to say it's no factor. He's acquiring guys he thinks are good fits. You've pointed to JB guys who don't play....I just don't think there's anything underhanded going on here. They want to win.

Tage is a top 4 RW in the organization. Don't think that's debatable, despite his struggles.

I'd love to know what they say about Scandella behind closed doors. I'm not sure what they really think about analytics, but I'm sure they are aware of the numbers.

- Lunaion


Tage is the one guy who is arguably has a greater likelihood of success than his replacement from Rochester.

How does playing Slobotka and Scandella help them win? To quote the article:

In 52 games, the 31-year-old Sobotka has contributed 10 points. His last goal came on November 8 which marks a 36-game drought. It’s not as though he’s helping defensively either. His relative Corsi of -7.11 is the worst mark on the team (excluding the recently demoted Remi Elie).

Who is the organization protecting by continually deploying one of the most irrelevant, ineffective players that the Sabres have iced in the last five years? For a player like Smith, the patience argument is completely nonsensical given his age and the fact that he’s played nearly 100 games a the AHL level so, what gives?

It’s nearly impossible to argue that players like Smith, Danny O’Regan, or even Victor Olofsson could somehow make the Sabres’ depth scoring issues worse.


The same reasoning holds for Scandella, but it doesn't require AHL guys to get called up, just Beualieu of Pilut who have shown at least as much ability when they're given a chance. How much worse could they be? And isn't it possible they're better?
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