I hate losing but I can see the bigger picture. All great teams had to build from the ground up at some point, it's our turn. Benning is prolonging the pain but we'll get there eventually.
- LeftCoaster

Couple more good drafts and things could really be looking up

If some of the later pics over the past couple pan out that will be huge too

Really liked MacEwens game... wanna see me some more of that !!!

There's a whole lot of salt in here about losing one game

DiPietros only playing because of extraordinary circumstances. Our 3rd goalie is out for the year, our other 3rd goalie got claimed, our 2nd goalie got hurt in a freak accident and our 1st goalie is exhausted after facing nearly 50 shots.

Calm the (frank) down everyone Marky will be back next game and Demko will be back soon and we will claim a 3rd goalie within the next 2 weeks
- NorthNuck

Extraordinary circumstances? It's happened a couple of times in JB's tenure. Matt Hewitt ring a bell? And I believe Demko was himself an emergency call up a season or two ago.

I'm not sure the situation fits your description of extraordinary.

Couple more good drafts and things could really be looking up

If some of the later pics over the past couple pan out that will be huge too
- Redmile247

Unfortunately it takes time to build, six to ten years in most cases, depending on some luck and skill level of your management.

Look at the Flames, you guys are good now but you drafted guys who are still contributing in a big way right now many years ago. Backlund 12 years ago, Brodie 11 years ago, Gaudreau 8 years ago, Jankowski 7 years ago, Monahan 6 years ago, Bennett 5 years ago, Tkachuk 3 years ago.

Takes a long time to build a core or build enough assets to where you can trade for players to add to that core.

Imagine if goalies weren’t 5 feet tall in the old days ....really inflated the nhl record books
- Redmile247

Not to mention beer and cigarettes at intermissions

the Sharks would destroy them
- NorthNuck

Oh for sure. Just like the two times they destroyed us in the regular season...

shambles

shambles
- Nucker101

Hey no-show, how many players are we allowed to keep in the HB Pool?

shambles
- Nucker101

Canucks were showing signs of life. Got to stamp that poop out.

Mission accomplished.

i'm keeping him out of the playoffs out of spite for not making it
- NorthNuck

maybe a keeper anyways?

Hopefully they don't extend Benning and Hextall is available, that'll send Booner over the edge lol. When is his prison sentence over? I wonder if he'll be angry or play the victim card?
- LeftCoaster

I am not much of a Green fan or Brown, Baumgratner for that matter. I see a team that isn’t prepared for game action, is atrocious at defending, and extremely predictable with their breakouts as well as there PP. So I would like to see an entire coaching staff change to start next season.

I don’t mind Benning overall, and I would be absolutely pissed if they hired Hextall in any capacity. I believe there is a reason that the flyers are on a run of great play, and it’s directly because they fired that overrated ego maniac

I am not much of a Green fan or Brown, Baumgratner for that matter. I see a team that isn’t prepared for game action, is atrocious at defending, and extremely predictable with their breakouts as well as there PP. So I would like to see an entire coaching staff change to start next season.

I don’t mind Benning overall, and I would be absolutely pissed if they hired Hextall in any capacity. I believe there is a reason that the flyers are on a run of great play, and it’s directly because they fired that overrated ego maniac
- Makita

I was joking about the Benning/Hextall thing but I fully agree that Greener isn't anything to write home about. Barry Trotz has taken a roster similar to ours and turned them into a first place team because he preaches team defence. They play a structured system that allows them to be successful. Are they that much different than the Canucks, I don't think so, they're just better coached.

As for Hextall, I agree, he just let the Flyers roster implode on itself, and he didn't really seem to care all that much because he was looking into the future. That's not good management.

What he did extremely well is manage their cap and build a tremendous prospect pool through good asset management and drafting.

He's still my favourite avatar though!!

Hey no-show, how many players are we allowed to keep in the HB Pool?
- LeftCoaster

he posted in the pool the keeper rules.

he posted in the pool the keeper rules.
- SMP8719

Well I'm lazy and it was easier to just ask him, but if you insist, I'll go look

Well I'm lazy and it was easier to just ask him, but if you insist, I'll go look
- LeftCoaster

more to it than just how many players so i figured easier to point ya there

I was joking about the Benning/Hextall thing but I fully agree that Greener isn't anything to write home about. Barry Trotz has taken a roster similar to ours and turned them into a first place team because he preaches team defence. They play a structured system that allows them to be successful. Are they that much different than the Canucks, I don't think so, they're just better coached.

As for Hextall, I agree, he just let the Flyers roster implode on itself, and he didn't really seem to care all that much because he was looking into the future. That's not good management.

What he did extremely well is manage their cap and build a tremendous prospect pool through good asset management and drafting.
- LeftCoaster

Coaching talk is lost on this group. Most don't get how a coach can change a team like that, doesn't matter how many examples there are.

more to it than just how many players so i figured easier to point ya there
- SMP8719

I didn't actually know some of those rules so good thing you prompted me to go read it. Thank you...

Coaching talk is lost on this group. Most don't get how a coach can change a team like that, doesn't matter how many examples there are.
- SMBDragon

My impression is that most here look at when a goal is scored that the player directly involved is to blame. They don’t see any of the play that lead up to the scoring chance.

The sharks are playing a very structured system, the Canucks are winging it and trying to capitalize on lucky bounces.

The sharks create space and time to move the puck, don’t panic with the puck and know where to slot the puck because someone fills that space, it’s quite nice to watch well coached teams.

Canucks are the total opposite, when pressured they panic and try to force a puck through to the corners hopeful that someone will beat the opposition and throw a cross ice pass to anyone fortunate to be there...which is rarely.

Men (sharks) against boys, fire green and the entire coaching staff with the exception of Maholtra and goalie coach. Forget his name.

My impression is that most here look at when a goal is scored that the player directly involved is to blame. They don’t see any of the play that lead up to the scoring chance.

The sharks are playing a very structured system, the Canucks are winging it and trying to capitalize on lucky bounces.

The sharks create space and time to move the puck, don’t panic with the puck and know where to slot the puck because someone fills that space, it’s quite nice to watch well coached teams.

Canucks are the total opposite, when pressured they panic and try to force a puck through to the corners hopeful that someone will beat the opposition and throw a cross ice pass to anyone fortunate to be there...which is rarely.

Men (sharks) against boys, fire green and the entire coaching staff with the exception of Maholtra and goalie coach. Forget his name.
- Makita

Much like soldiers in a war....The soldiers pull triggers on their guns but that wouldn't even happen for each soldier without generals drawing up battle plans 1st. Good battle plans equal lots of kills and few casualties to your side. No plan or bad plans equals getting slaughtered.

I am not much of a Green fan or Brown, Baumgratner for that matter. I see a team that isn’t prepared for game action, is atrocious at defending, and extremely predictable with their breakouts as well as there PP. So I would like to see an entire coaching staff change to start next season.

I don’t mind Benning overall, and I would be absolutely pissed if they hired Hextall in any capacity. I believe there is a reason that the flyers are on a run of great play, and it’s directly because they fired that overrated ego maniac
- Makita

I didn’t know hextall was even a remote possibility, but i agree. As for the coaching, i have to completely disagree. Green IMO has done a hell of a job coaching a team that should not really be in the playoff conversation to the bubble. Just my opinion, but i saw another bottom 5-10 team and they have played very well. Tbey got shelled by one of the very best teams in the league. No reason to turn on them as if they are underperforming

I was joking about the Benning/Hextall thing but I fully agree that Greener isn't anything to write home about. Barry Trotz has taken a roster similar to ours and turned them into a first place team because he preaches team defence. They play a structured system that allows them to be successful. Are they that much different than the Canucks, I don't think so, they're just better coached.

As for Hextall, I agree, he just let the Flyers roster implode on itself, and he didn't really seem to care all that much because he was looking into the future. That's not good management.

What he did extremely well is manage their cap and build a tremendous prospect pool through good asset management and drafting.

He's still my favourite avatar though!!
- LeftCoaster

The isles have a lot more talent front to back than us.

The isles have a lot more talent front to back than us.
- neem55

No they don't, they are deeper in their top nine but not "a lot" better than us, as you say. Semantics really. They just play a more structured game and they play in a tougher division having to play against Pittsburgh, Washington, Columbus & Carolina. All good teams.

They sacrifice offence for defensive structure, look at their plus minus playing against Pens, Caps, Jackets & Hurricanes who are all in the top half of the league for Goals For, they have four guys who are minus players. The Canucks have five guys who a plus players lol. Islanders are number one in the league in Goals Against.

Islanders GF 160 GA 133 +27
Canucks GF 164 GA 181 -17

Barzal, Bailey, Eberle, Lee, Nelson, Cizikas, Filppula, Beauvillier

vs

Pettersson, Horvat, Boeser, Leivo, Goldobin, Roussel, Virtanen, Eriksson

No they don't, they are deeper in their top nine but not "a lot" better than us, as you say. Semantics really. They just play a more structured game and they play in a tougher division having to play against Pittsburgh, Washington, Columbus & Carolina. All good teams.

They sacrifice offence for defensive structure, look at their plus minus playing against Pens, Caps, Jackets & Hurricanes who are all in the top half of the league for Goals For, they have four guys who are minus players. The Canucks have five guys who a plus players lol. Islanders are number one in the league in Goals Against.

Islanders GF 160 GA 133 +27
Canucks GF 164 GA 181 -17

Barzal, Bailey, Eberle, Lee, Nelson, Cizikas, Filppula, Beauvillier

vs

Pettersson, Horvat, Boeser, Leivo, Goldobin, Roussel, Virtanen, Eriksson
- LeftCoaster

Yes Lefty, every other team has better players and every other team has harder competition, and every other team out performs Vancouver.

It was an ugly game. Unfortunate circumstances that he had to play against one of the hottest team in the league..

The sky fell really hard in here last night.

Yes Lefty, every other team has better players and every other team has harder competition, and every other team out performs Vancouver.
- manvanfan

This was actually about coaching Einstein