I’ll refer you to the Todd Bertuzzi Steve Moore incident
- gravyboy33

IMO, Bertuzzi jumping on Moore's back and driving his face into the ice was what did the majority of the damage. Sure the punch to the head did damage, but that's not what forced Moore to retire.

IMO, Bertuzzi jumping on Moore's back and driving his face into the ice was what did the majority of the damage. Sure the punch to the head did damage, but that's not what forced Moore to retire.
- jmatchett383

I’d argue he maybe could have braced himself for the fall a bit more if not for the gloved fist to the back of the head before the bulldogging headlock, either way it can still be dangerous

Cross check to the lower back, punch in the back of the head. That coward deserved it. It's worth sitting out a game imo

I think geno was lucky to only get one game, you just can’t swing your stick around high like that, I’d have been fine with 3-10. But I also think the league needs to better job of protecting its stars, grubs like Raffl know they can goad geno into taking retaliatory penalties and that’s exactly what Raffl was trying to do. That’s a blind side headshot Geno took right before he freaked out and if the league really cared about player safety they’d call a penalty on that too especially in a 3-0 game when it’s clear Raffl is trying to incite something
- gravyboy33

Blind side head shot? LOL. That little punch happens about 100 times per game. How many players hit with that little shot come up flailing their stick like that? For all of his immeasurable talent and skill, he just isn't very bright and never has been. He regularly takes stupid penalties to the detriment of his team. Crosby, who has taken orders of magnitude more physical abuse than Malkin plays through all of it and hits teams where it hurts most, on the scoreboard. As a Flyers fan, I hope Malkin never changes. I'm sure he won't.

I’d argue he maybe could have braced himself for the fall a bit more if not for the gloved fist to the back of the head before the bulldogging headlock, either way it can still be dangerous
- gravyboy33

Before Bertuzzi throws the punch, he grabs onto Moore's jersey for leverage and throws the punch to the side of Moore's head. It's hard to tell if that knocked him out or simply put him off-balance. But even if it did, if Bertuzzi doesn't follow it up with driving his face into the ice, Moore's career isn't over.

Also, I'm not saying Raffl wasn't in the wrong, and he should should have been penalized. But comparing a punch to the back of the head to a stick swinging at the head is a bit of a stretch.

Cross check to the lower back, punch in the back of the head. That coward deserved it. It's worth sitting out a game imo
- mgriffen

Yep, a cross check and punch to the back of the head warrants a stick being swung at his head.

I hope you don't have children to pass on this wonderful knowledge to.

"Hey, if someone at elementary school is bullying you, just shoot them with a gun, that will show them!"

I’d argue he maybe could have braced himself for the fall a bit more if not for the gloved fist to the back of the head before the bulldogging headlock, either way it can still be dangerous
- gravyboy33

You're joking right? How, in any way, shape or form, is Raffl's "punch" even close to the same situation as what Bertuzzi did???

Before Bertuzzi throws the punch, he grabs onto Moore's jersey for leverage and throws the punch to the side of Moore's head. It's hard to tell if that knocked him out or simply put him off-balance. But even if it did, if Bertuzzi doesn't follow it up with driving his face into the ice, Moore's career isn't over.

Also, I'm not saying Raffl wasn't in the wrong, and he should should have been penalized. But comparing a punch to the back of the head to a stick swinging at the head is a bit of a stretch.
- jmatchett383

Fair enough

Blind side head shot? LOL. That little punch happens about 100 times per game. How many players hit with that little shot come up flailing their stick like that? For all of his immeasurable talent and skill, he just isn't very bright and never has been. He regularly takes stupid penalties to the detriment of his team. Crosby, who has taken orders of magnitude more physical abuse than Malkin plays through all of it and hits teams where it hurts most, on the scoreboard. As a Flyers fan, I hope Malkin never changes. I'm sure he won't.
- BOSS_TWEED

I’ve watched it a few more times from different angles and I think I was making it worse in my head than it was, my bad.

I’ve watched it a few more times from different angles and I think I was making it worse in my head than it was, my bad.
- gravyboy33

I agree that the punch should have been penalized.

I’ll refer you to the Todd Bertuzzi Steve Moore incident
- gravyboy33

Wait are you actually gonna compare raffles shot to Malkin to Bertuzzi jumping on a guys back and shoving his face onto the ice at high speed??

I’ll refer you to the Todd Bertuzzi Steve Moore incident
- gravyboy33

Wait are you actually gonna compare raffles shot to Malkin to Bertuzzi jumping on a guys back and shoving his face onto the ice at high speed??
- Richieattack18

Have you read any of the times he just said that he was wrong? Seriously?

Before Bertuzzi throws the punch, he grabs onto Moore's jersey for leverage and throws the punch to the side of Moore's head. It's hard to tell if that knocked him out or simply put him off-balance. But even if it did, if Bertuzzi doesn't follow it up with driving his face into the ice, Moore's career isn't over.

Also, I'm not saying Raffl wasn't in the wrong, and he should should have been penalized. But comparing a punch to the back of the head to a stick swinging at the head is a bit of a stretch.
- jmatchett383

You can't compare the two, Malkins actions were definitely more egregious, but would they have even happened without Raffl being a d-bag on the play? A lot of this crap could be removed from the game if the league clamped down on the instigating play (as well) every time a suspension review occurred. Khaira was suspended earlier in the year for a retaliatory cross-check to the head, right after he took one himself. Was his worse, sure, but it wouldn't have even happened without the other guy doing it first.

such bullpoop that thug should have been banned 25 games
- 2Real

You can't compare the two, Malkins actions were definitely more egregious, but would they have even happened without Raffl being a d-bag on the play? A lot of this crap could be removed from the game if the league clamped down on the instigating play (as well) every time a suspension review occurred. Khaira was suspended earlier in the year for a retaliatory cross-check to the head, right after he took one himself. Was his worse, sure, but it wouldn't have even happened without the other guy doing it first.
- Beergu

So a gloved swat that happens every game is now a suspension?