TheSabresTaco
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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I would trade for Tyler Johnson. He's extremely versatile, can win draws and can play anywhere in the top 9.
At 5M, he's a steal. |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Here's what the Sabres can actually do, theoretically because offer sheets are unicorns. These are 2018 numbers cause lazy.
Offer:
$1,339,575 or less (no comp)
$1,339,576 to $2,029,659 (3rd) - Sheary must not hit 20g or 40 points and Hunwick must not be traded
$4,059,323 to $6,088,980 (1st & 3rd) - Same as above
Over $10,148,302 (4 1sts) - Anyone pay the next 4 year's 1st round picks for Brayden Point or Sebastian Aho? Cause that's the only offer sheet that, were they to actually exist, have a remote chance of actually completing - TheSabresTaco
This isn’t accurate
We can offer sheet at ANY of the compensation levels this offseason |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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I would trade for Tyler Johnson. He's extremely versatile, can win draws and can play anywhere in the top 9.
At 5M, he's a steal. - TheSabresTaco
Sure...
but wouldn’t Tampa want to move Palat or Kilorn (similar cap hits) instead? |
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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY Joined: 07.16.2006
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This isn’t accurate
We can offer sheet at ANY of the compensation levels this offseason - jdfitz77
We sure can as long as Sheary doesn’t hit 20g and we don’t trade Hunwick(as previously stated).
Otherwise that 4th to Pittsburgh becomes a third and you must use your picks for an offersheet. |
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SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 02.05.2014
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We sure can as long as Sheary doesn’t hit 20g and we don’t trade Hunwick(as previously stated).
Otherwise that 4th to Pittsburgh becomes a third and you must use your picks for an offersheet. - dadeadhead
Isn't FA after the draft? So wouldn't the compensation picks be for 2020 draft? |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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We sure can as long as Sheary doesn’t hit 20g and we don’t trade Hunwick(as previously stated).
Otherwise that 4th to Pittsburgh becomes a third and you must use your picks for an offersheet. - dadeadhead
None of that matters
It doesn’t affect potential offer sheets we’d sign |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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This isn’t accurate
We can offer sheet at ANY of the compensation levels this offseason - jdfitz77
False
We do not have a 2020 3rd due to the Skinner trade |
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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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Here's what the Sabres can actually do, theoretically because offer sheets are unicorns. These are 2018 numbers cause lazy.
Offer:
$1,339,575 or less (no comp)
$1,339,576 to $2,029,659 (3rd) - Sheary must not hit 20g or 40 points and Hunwick must not be traded
$4,059,323 to $6,088,980 (1st & 3rd) - Same as above
Over $10,148,302 (4 1sts) - Anyone pay the next 4 year's 1st round picks for Brayden Point or Sebastian Aho? Cause that's the only offer sheet that, were they to actually exist, have a remote chance of actually completing - TheSabresTaco
It's almost like offer sheet compensation is designed by both ownership and the veteran membership of the PA to be an unattractive and unrealistic option |
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Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here Joined: 02.10.2011
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Isn't FA after the draft? So wouldn't the compensation picks be for 2020 draft? - SDSabre
EXACTLY
The 2019 draft happens BEFORE we’d be potentially signing any RFAs to offer sheets
So the picks we do or don’t have in 2019 don’t matter
Since we have all our picks in 2020 and beyond,
we can sign an RFA at any competition level we wish
Good post sir |
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SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 02.05.2014
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None of that matters
It doesn’t affect potential offer sheets we’d sign - jdfitz77
If you don't have your own 3rd, let's say, you can't sign a RFA that would require you to move that pick. You must have your own picks to use as the compensation for signing RFA's, if memory serves correct. |
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SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 02.05.2014
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EXACTLY
The 2019 draft happens BEFORE we’d be potentially signing any RFAs to offer sheets
So the picks we do or don’t have in 2019 don’t matter
Since we have all our picks in 2020 and beyond,
we can sign an RFA at any competition level we wish
Good post sir - jdfitz77
But we don't have our 2020 3rd. (frank) you Skinner!!
So Taco was right, but for the wrong reasons. |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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False
We do not have a 2020 3rd due to the Skinner trade - Stripes77
Didn’t we give up this years 2nd,
but get their 3rd next year?
Do i have that wrong? |
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Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK! Joined: 07.27.2007
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You're ALL wrong. - Powerslave
I’ve been saying this for months. |
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SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 02.05.2014
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Didn’t we give up this years 2nd,
but get their 3rd next year?
Do i have that wrong? - jdfitz77
No it was Pu, 19 2nd, 20 3rd and 6th.
In other words, all poop. |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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No it was Pu, 19 2nd, 20 3rd and 6th.
In other words, all poop. - SDSabre
Correct |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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If you don't have your own 3rd, let's say, you can't sign a RFA that would require you to move that pick. You must have your own picks to use as the compensation for signing RFA's, if memory serves correct. - SDSabre
That’s correct
My bad
I thought we got the 2020 3rd, not that we gave it up
My apologies
*we really got ripped off in that Skinner trade! Lol |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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That’s correct
My bad
I thought we got the 2020 3rd, not that we gave it up
My apologies - jdfitz77
If we would have traded Pu and a 2nd for Skinner and a 3rd Botts would never ever ever be on the hot seat in his entire life!
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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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This isn’t accurate
We can offer sheet at ANY of the compensation levels this offseason - jdfitz77
We're going to have a great time doing that without our 2nd round pick. |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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So here is a theoretical ideal
Say they move a few players out and they get another teams 2nd
Would it be smarter for them to move the 2nd to Carolina to get their 3rd back?
You know if they actually plan on offersheeting someone???
Can you imagine the GMs panic if they see a team trade to get their original pick back just so that team could send out an offer sheet? |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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We're going to have a great time doing that without our 2nd round pick. - TheSabresTaco
2020 draft
We have our 2nd but not our 3rd
Time to move on
Offer sheets can only go out on July 1st (or later), so after to the 2019 NHL draft |
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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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It's almost like offer sheet compensation is designed by both ownership and the veteran membership of the PA to be an unattractive and unrealistic option - jcragcrumple
I think that's the point. If the NHL wants to see offer sheets cause chaos like the fans want, the entire system needs to be restructured, and there needs to be incentives for GMs to (frank) their friends. Because clearly they're not doing that right now. |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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This isn’t accurate
We can offer sheet at ANY of the compensation levels this offseason - jdfitz77
this is wrong
the offer sheets get done AFTER the draft
we have our first round picks for 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023
we don't have our 3rd or 6th in 2020
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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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But we don't have our 2020 3rd. (frank) you Skinner!!
So Taco was right, but for the wrong reasons. - SDSabre
Apparently I missed it by a year. I iz gon' remake a post
Here's what the Sabres can actually do.
$1,339,575 or less (no comp)
$2,029,660 to $4,059,322 (2nd)
Over $10,148,302 (4 1sts)
Thanks Fitz, you made it worse. |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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We're going to have a great time doing that without our 2nd round pick. - TheSabresTaco
Take comfort in knowing we were both wrong, but for different reasons
Not having our 2019 pick makes zero difference sir |
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