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BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Feb 13 @ 2:06 PM ET
How are you getting Taylor Hall on July 1?
- Hatboro_Swords

NHL Be a GM mode
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 13 @ 2:08 PM ET
He can't sign the deal until the 25th though. Botterill keeps things very quiet
- jcragcrumple


I would imagine he'd let us know if Skinner signs. Why would he wait for the 27th if he was open to signing here? They've had 8 months to hash this out.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 13 @ 2:09 PM ET
How are you getting Taylor Hall on July 1?
- Hatboro_Swords



Yeah, next year. I thought Eberle and Stone had the same end-point on their deals. So Stone, Duchene, Staal, Zuccarello, Simmonds, Eberle. There are options to spend money.
22sabresQ
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Are we good yet ?
Joined: 05.23.2013

Feb 13 @ 2:09 PM ET
Flacco traded to the Broncos... TWF are they thinking
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 13 @ 2:10 PM ET
There could definitely be reasons why he wouldn't and the Sabres wouldn't want an 8 year deal. He'd have a shot at one more solid contract if he did a five year deal.
- TheSabresTaco


Heck, I don't want an 8 year deal for him. Still, if he isn't signed a day after the TDL ends (at a time when he can be signed for 8), I'll be pretty confident to say he's walking. Given the procrastination, I think it's real possibility now.

Why wait if you are the Sabres? If no good excuse, that means Skinner wants more than they're willing to give and he's playing out his last season with us.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 13 @ 2:13 PM ET
I would imagine he'd let us know if Skinner signs. Why would he wait for the 27th if he was open to signing here? They've had 8 months to hash this out.
- RhinoFan



They probably haven't come to an agreement in total yet. But I'm confident that an 8-year deal will be signed on TDL day, the day he's able to sign that deal.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Feb 13 @ 2:15 PM ET
Yeah, next year. I thought Eberle and Stone had the same end-point on their deals. So Stone, Duchene, Staal, Zuccarello, Simmonds, Eberle. There are options to spend money.
- jcragcrumple

How bout the Big Pavelski? Isn't he up?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 13 @ 2:16 PM ET
The Coyotes active roster has 4 forwards, 2 defensemen and 0 goalies that were drafted by Arizona. Clayton Keller is the only player to exceed 30 points off of that list, and him and OEL are the only two to exceed 20 points.

This team isn't even in last place.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 13 @ 2:18 PM ET
Heck, I don't want an 8 year deal for him. Still, if he isn't signed a day after the TDL ends (at a time when he can be signed for 8), I'll be pretty confident to say he's walking. Given the procrastination, I think it's real possibility now.

Why wait if you are the Sabres? If no good excuse, that means Skinner wants more than they're willing to give and he's playing out his last season with us.

- RhinoFan


There is no possible way a reasonable conclusion can be drawn from that information. It's all, 100%, speculative.

Sometimes contract language needs to be negotiated. For all we know, Skinner could have agreed to basic money and terms a month ago. Drawing up contracts for elite players takes a lot of time. Eichel took 3 months. Matthews took over 7 months.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 13 @ 2:20 PM ET
with olli maata out and the pens said to be looking for d-depth, wonder if they'll consider sabres--hunwick, beaulieu...Scandella?
- Michael Pachla



Hunwick to Pittsburgh
Pommer to minnie
Bowl u to the habs
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Feb 13 @ 2:21 PM ET
NHL Be a GM mode
- BeadyEyedDouche

Malkin just became available on July 1. Lock him up. Botts connection.

If they lose Skinner it will be an epic fail. 2006 Danny Briere arbitration epic.
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Feb 13 @ 2:22 PM ET
There is no possible way a reasonable conclusion can be drawn from that information. It's all, 100%, speculative.

Sometimes contract language needs to be negotiated. For all we know, Skinner could have agreed to basic money and terms a month ago. Drawing up contracts for elite players takes a lot of time. Eichel took 3 months.

- TheSabresTaco


I thought we couldn't offer the 8-years until after the TDL? Maybe they have an 8-year deal in place and are just waiting to announce it after the TDL?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 13 @ 2:22 PM ET
Hunwick to Pittsburgh
Pommer to minnie
Bowl u to the habs

- Boss34


Why do people even theorize this to be possible.

Edit: I hope I smell cynical sarcasm here.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 13 @ 2:23 PM ET
How bout the Big Pavelski? Isn't he up?
- Hatboro_Swords



He’s their captain and is 34 (will be 35 on 7/11).
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 13 @ 2:23 PM ET
I thought we couldn't offer the 8-years until after the TDL? Maybe they have an 8-year deal in place and are just waiting to announce it after the TDL?
- SabreWest


That is definitely possible, and true.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 13 @ 2:25 PM ET
He’s their captain and is 34 (will be 35 on 7/11).
- dadeadhead


Chances are nil he even leaves the Sharks let alone joins the Sabres, but he could be our Marleau, and it'd be awesome.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 13 @ 2:26 PM ET
Why do people even theorize this to be possible.

Edit: I hope I smell cynical sarcasm here.

- TheSabresTaco



Yes, I was kidding
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 13 @ 2:33 PM ET
Yes, I was kidding
- Boss34


Hey Hermano
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Feb 13 @ 2:36 PM ET
Malkin just became available on July 1. Lock him up. Botts connection.

If they lose Skinner it will be an epic fail. 2006 Danny Briere arbitration epic.

- Hatboro_Swords


What does your third eye say. Please be vague, so you can claim that while you aren't always right, you are never wrong. Except when you are. But those don't count.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 13 @ 2:42 PM ET
Hey Hermano
- Der Kaiser



Notice that game winner last night:

#Legendary
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 13 @ 2:43 PM ET
They probably haven't come to an agreement in total yet. But I'm confident that an 8-year deal will be signed on TDL day, the day he's able to sign that deal.
- jcragcrumple


That's fair. It isn't set and stone, just trying to read how things are playing out is all. I think Botts has to be doing everything he can to get that deal done, if Skinner walks, regardless of what we paid to acquire him, it will be reported as a major misstep.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 13 @ 2:45 PM ET
There is no possible way a reasonable conclusion can be drawn from that information. It's all, 100%, speculative.

Sometimes contract language needs to be negotiated. For all we know, Skinner could have agreed to basic money and terms a month ago. Drawing up contracts for elite players takes a lot of time. Eichel took 3 months. Matthews took over 7 months.

- TheSabresTaco


It's all speculation. I can only go off of what I see. I see we still haven't signed him. We have about 2 weeks before Skinner will be unsigned AND have the opportunity to sign for 8 years. If he still isn't at that point, I'll still speculate that he is on the way out. Doesn't mean I'm right or wrong, but I think things are heading that way fast.

I will wait for the 27th to say "eek eek" but there's singular eek currently.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 13 @ 2:52 PM ET
It's all speculation. I can only go off of what I see. I see we still haven't signed him. We have about 2 weeks before Skinner will be unsigned AND have the opportunity to sign for 8 years. If he still isn't at that point, I'll still speculate that he is on the way out. Doesn't mean I'm right or wrong, but I think things are heading that way fast.

I will wait for the 27th to say "eek eek" but there's singular eek currently.

- RhinoFan


No reason to not be a little nervous. There hasn't even been a whisper about either party being discontent. The opposite is true with Ottawa's UFAs, and Kane last year. Even in December, you pretty much knew he was getting traded. All signs, all media, even his own words told you pretty plainly that he'd be traded. I don't see any of that with Skinner. Or JS53 as laff fans would probably say.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 13 @ 2:53 PM ET
That's fair. It isn't set and stone, just trying to read how things are playing out is all. I think Botts has to be doing everything he can to get that deal done, if Skinner walks, regardless of what we paid to acquire him, it will be reported as a major misstep.
- RhinoFan



I agree.

Botts is gonna take a beating if skinner goes to free agency July 1st

Skinners camp may have been upfront,

Jeff would like to test free agency


Jbotts may have hoped to convince him with winning and playing with eichel.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Feb 13 @ 2:53 PM ET
Heck, I don't want an 8 year deal for him. Still, if he isn't signed a day after the TDL ends (at a time when he can be signed for 8), I'll be pretty confident to say he's walking. Given the procrastination, I think it's real possibility now.

Why wait if you are the Sabres? If no good excuse, that means Skinner wants more than they're willing to give and he's playing out his last season with us.

- RhinoFan



Where are you getting this info that they're procrastinating? No one said that.

They could have an entire framework written, a handshake deal in place, but are waiting until the 8th year can be added.
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