Yea nobody thought we’d win Super Bowl 50 with the same formula either. P.Manning and Elway are 2/3 QB’s to win a Super Bowl without a single TD pass. Run the ball and play good defense. Belicheck used the exact scheme Fangio ran against the Rams earlier this year to beat them in the Super Bowl.
- Pegullaville

Why didn't it work last year, and if that's the case, why give up ANY assets for Flacco? If it's just run and good d, why not just roll with Keenum?

Why didn't it work last year, and if that's the case, why give up ANY assets for Flacco? If it's just run and good d, why not just roll with Keenum?
- SDSabre

Keenum sucks.

Flacco get's a lot of unwarranted criticism, IMO. He is a good QB. Not elite but a top-15 QB in the league still, IMO. It's not like he's Trent Dilfer. The guy was Super Bowl MVP.

We’ll be back in the playoffs next year don’t you worry.
- Pegullaville

I have a pile of internet points stacked up from tom wilson getting paid way more then the star sam.

I'm willing to wager all of them and say the bills end up in 2020 with a better record then the Broncos

I have a pile of internet points stacked up from tom wilson getting paid way more then the star sam.

I'm willing to wager all of them and say the bills end up in 2020 with a better record then the Broncos
- Boss34

Why didn't it work last year, and if that's the case, why give up ANY assets for Flacco? If it's just run and good d, why not just roll with Keenum?
- SDSabre

Keenum was the worst starting QB in the league this year. Even if Flacco is average this team will win 10 games. The Broncos had the worst QB and coaching staff in the league last season and were two plays away from being 8-8 instead of 6-10

I've been saying for years that I am most definitely not Peter Chiarelli

On an unrelated note, my schedule has freed up some recently, and I have some Dahlin trade proposals that I think you'll find pretty intriguing
- jcragcrumple

Jcrag= erod's and vaneks agent

I have a pile of internet points stacked up from tom wilson getting paid way more then the star sam.

I'm willing to wager all of them and say the bills end up in 2020 with a better record then the Broncos
- Boss34

The only thing the Bills have that is better then Denver is the QB position and there is still some uncertainty around that. RB, WR, OL, DL, LB, DB’s, Special Teams are all in the Broncos favour. We also have a better coaching staff.

We're middle of Feb now.

Just saying, the talks don't seem to have went well. We got told they were talking, then radio silence.

IMO 8 years for Skinner isn't a win either.
- RhinoFan

relax

there has not been radio silence

relax

there has not been radio silence


- homiedclown

John Wawrow said Skinner was seen with his reps after the game last night. So definitely not radio silence.

Jcrag= erod's and vaneks agent
- Boss34

It's not a lucrative time to be me

Flacco has a SB ring. He’s a gamer. Might be average but that’s all Denver needs. Fangio has the tools in Denver that he had in Chicago on the defensive side. We have two running backs that are darn good and got Mike Munchak as our O-Line coach. We will run the ball and play good defense. Broncos are back in the playoffs next year. Keenum will be traded or released.
- Pegullaville

So do Jeff Hostetler, Trent Dilfer, and Brad Johnson, it doesn't make him good.

The only thing the Bills have that is better then Denver is the QB position and there is still some uncertainty around that. RB, WR, OL, DL, LB, DB’s, Special Teams are all in the Broncos favour. We also have a better coaching staff.
- Pegullaville

Denver is spending 40 million $ more on the most important position in sports .

But : are worse at that position.

Our dbs are better as well

I was glad to not be in the flacco sweepstakes

So do Jeff Hostetler, Trent Dilfer, and Brad Johnson, it doesn't make him good.
- Wetbandit1

None of them were Super Bowl MVP, either.

Staal wasnt even in a Carolina uniform for the past 3 or 4 seasons.

Before that, and while skinner was on the Hurricanes, his numbers are not better then skins. Similar, but hes also a center.


Pre-skins. Maybe
- Boss34

Skinner had more points than Staal 1 year out of the 6 they played together, the last year Staal was in Carolina.

Skinner: 267 points in 418 games

Staal: 347 points in 430 games

Staal was on the downside of his career and was still better. Like I said, criminally underrated.

Your move.

None of them were Super Bowl MVP, either.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Flacco's a fine QB and they may make the playoffs, but with San Diego and KC in front of them they're going to need a WC and that's going to be tough. I doubt both WC's will come from one division.

None of them were Super Bowl MVP, either.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Someone is gonna overpay for Foles and see how that goes, too

El Flacco is El Terrible

So do Jeff Hostetler, Trent Dilfer, and Brad Johnson, it doesn't make him good.
- Wetbandit1

Ennnnt, not the same. Flacco was exceptional in that playoff run. PTPer.

That was 6 years or so ago and Denver plays in the AFC West so Pegullaville might want to temper expectations a bit.

Other than that, thinking I’m liking DK Metcalf at #9 and would like to personally thank Kyler Murray for choosing football over baseball.

Fvck!!!!!
Look out!!! The sky is falling, RUN!!!!!
Good lord, get a damn grip.

Botts AND Skinner's agent AGREED NOT TO TALK until mid-January. Reportedly, they spoke during that time and scheduled multiple meetings to get deeper into negotiations.
Just because they are jot updating blow by blow doesn't mean a damn thing.
Relax...it's friggin hockey, a game.

Minga!

We're middle of Feb now.

Just saying, the talks don't seem to have went well. We got told they were talking, then radio silence.

IMO 8 years for Skinner isn't a win either.
- RhinoFan

The NHL loves drama, things get done at the last minute, that's just how it works, 12 days may as well be 12 years.

Flacco's a fine QB and they may make the playoffs, but with San Diego and KC in front of them they're going to need a WC and that's going to be tough. I doubt both WC's will come from one division.
- Wetbandit1

San Diego has a knack for crapping the bed one season and missing the playoffs and waiting until the playoffs to crap the bed the next.

Denver is spending 40 million $ more on the most important position in sports .

But : are worse at that position.

Our dbs are better as well

I was glad to not be in the flacco sweepstakes
- Boss34

Keenum will be released, cut, or will be taking a discount. Unless Chris Harris Jr got traded to the Bills you’re wrong on that one too. Justin simmons is a really good young safety and Bradley Roby is better then whoever your #2 is.

We held the Rams to 23 points (lost by 3) lost to the Chiefs twice 27-23 (Keenum hits a wide open DT they win), and 30-23 at Arrowhead another one score game. McManus misses a field goal or else we beat the Texans in a game we lost 19-17. That’s also with Vance Joseph who I wouldn’t want coaching a pop warner football team. The Broncos are much more talented then their record showed. We also derailed Pittsburgh’s playoff hopes holding them to 17 points and beat the Chargers 23-22 holding them to 22 points.

If Flacco is average this team is back in the playoffs next year and Chubb/Von will both be in the top 5 in sacks in the league next year.

Ennnnt, not the same. Flacco was exceptional in that playoff run. PTPer.

That was 6 years or so ago and Denver plays in the AFC West so Pegullaville might want to temper expectations a bit.

Other than that, thinking I’m liking DK Metcalf at #9 and would like to personally thank Kyler Murray for choosing football over baseball.
- Hatboro_Swords

He was very good during that playoff run 6 years ago, but they wouldn't have been in the SB without a lucky pass and their defense intercepting Manning late in OT. And 3 more turnovers in the championship game. He's a fine QB, he's NOT the savior in Denver unless they're going to try and wait for Rivers to retire, and good luck with that.

San Diego has a knack for crapping the bed one season and missing the playoffs and waiting until the playoffs to crap the bed the next.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Flacco is the worst QB in that division. Carr has a higher TD%, lower INT%, more YPG and a higher rating over his career than Flacco does over his.

Flacco is the worst QB in that division. Carr has a higher TD%, lower INT%, more YPG and a higher rating over his career than Flacco does over his.
- Wetbandit1

Flacco had the best 3rd and short conversion rate in the NFL last year at 87.5%. Phillip Lindsay amd Royce Freeman are going to be a great 1-2 combo in the backfield. Establish the run, dink and dunk down the field, take the shot down field when you can. Defenses have to respect Flacco’s ability to beat them deep so they can’t stack the box. If the Broncos average 23 points a game next year they win 10 games. Flacco’s job will be to not turn the ball over and just be efficient.