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2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Feb 14 @ 6:21 PM ET
LOL, Higher up the chart than Happy Gilmour tho........
- CharlieDog


so here is an alternative deadline plan:

We trade for a one handed Chubbs (or Matt Hendricks), get him to take Laine to an outdoor rink and find his happy place. (Pretty sure Laine already has enough money to save his grandma's house.)
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Feb 14 @ 6:47 PM ET
so here is an alternative deadline plan:

We trade for a one handed Chubbs (or Matt Hendricks), get him to take Laine to an outdoor rink and find his happy place. (Pretty sure Laine already has enough money to save his grandma's house.)

- 2.0


Yes. The good news is that Happy G eventually also learned to putt. Hopefully, the story continues along the same path for Patty L and he eventually learns to also play hockey.
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Feb 14 @ 7:06 PM ET
so here is an alternative deadline plan:

We trade for a one handed Chubbs (or Matt Hendricks), get him to take Laine to an outdoor rink and find his happy place. (Pretty sure Laine already has enough money to save his grandma's house.)

- 2.0



Classic ! LOL
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Feb 14 @ 7:06 PM ET
Okay, there’s a lot of Tool-Aid being drank here, so I’m gonna say some things:

1: Niku and Vesalainen are the only two untouchable prospects.
-Niku is not just the only future top 4 guy not already on the team, but the only NHL lock in the entire system at this point. He’s safe.
-Vesalainen is tracking to be better than both Ehlers AND Connor, if we’re comparing everyone at age 19.
-Additionally, Roslovic should be on the fence. His upside is coming into question, but he’s real good already.

2: Scheifele gets the nod over Stone because he’s a centre. However, Stone is way, way better than Wheeler, and that’s a compliment to both players.

3: Laine is being shafted by the coaching staff at this point. It’s pretty blatant. TRY HIM WITH ANY OTHER CENTRE, YOU STUBBORN Richard. Little and Laine have never once worked. This is a perfect example of boring, uncreative coach sticks to boring, uncreative pairs regardless of how many struggling forwards they have.

And for those of you trying to say Laine is only a shot with skates on, you’re both wrong AND of questionable intelligence.
Is his shooting ability far above everything else he offers? Yes.
Is the rest of his game below average? No.
It’s also worth noting that he is literally the best shooter in the entire world, AKA the best player at doing the most difficult thing hockey players do, and someone suggests trading that because he’s “not the right fit”?
He’s already your most dangerous weapon. He’s THE most dangerous weapon. Is he playing well? It comes and goes, and is severely overstated by the “fans”. Is the coach doing anything to change it? He’s making it worse with every game.

The long story short with Laine is this:
Paul Maurice is doing his utter best to alienate a generation sniper, Laine does not currently have the skill set to work himself out of this slump alone (which is what is being asked), and anyone suggesting they trade him because he’s bad needs to go play a game of “hide and go f*ck yourself”, because your eye test is terrible, your understanding of potential and development needs work, and you need to acknowledge that our coaching staff is failing all over the place
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Feb 14 @ 7:17 PM ET
Okay, there’s a lot of Tool-Aid being drank here, so I’m gonna day some things:

1: Niku and Vesalainen are the only two untouchable prospects.
-Niku is not just the only future top 4 guy not already on the team, but the only NHL lock in the entire system at this point. He’s safe.
-Vesalainen is tracking to be better than both Ehlers AND Connor, if we’re conparing everyone at 19.
-Additionally, Roslovic should be on the fence. His upside is coming into question, but he’s good already.

2: Scheifele gets the nod over Stone because he’s a centre. However. Stone is way, way better than Wheeler, and that’s a compliment to both players.

3: Laine is being shafted by the coaching staff at this point. It’s pretty blatant. TRY HIM WITH ANY OTHER CENTRE, YOU STUBBORN Richard. Little and Laine have never once worked.

And for those of you trying to say he’s only a shot with skates on, you’re both wrong AND of questionable intelligence.
Is his shooting ability far above everything else he offers? Yes.
Is the rest of his game below average? No.
It’s also worth noting that he is literally the best shooter in the entire world, AKA the best player at doing the most difficult thing hockey players do, and someone suggests trading that because he’s “not the right fit”?
He’s already your most dangerous weapon. He’s THE most dangerous weapon. Is he playing well? It comes and goes, and is severely overstated by the “fans”. Is the coach doing anything to change it? He’s making it worse with every game.

The long story short with Laine is this:
Paul Maurice is doing his utter best to alienate a generation sniper, Laine does not currently have the skill set to work himself out of this slump alone (which is what is being asked), and anyone suggesting they trade him because he’s bad needs to go play a game of “hide and go f*ck yourself”, because your eye test is terrible, your understanding of potential and development needs work, and you need to acknowledge that our coaching staff is failing all over the place

- Rexypoo

He’s not being shafted, this dialogue on twitter is a joke. All will be fine for the 20 year old. Twitter folks need to put the gun down
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Feb 14 @ 7:19 PM ET
He’s not being shafted, this dialogue on twitter is a joke. All will be fine for the 20 year old. Twitter folks need to put the gun down
- Ross77


Nope. You don’t try and get a player rolling by keeping him with the same declining centre at 5 on 5, moving him away from Wheeler on the powerplay, and cutting his overall minutes.
It’s idiotic.
BWJumper
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Feb 14 @ 7:21 PM ET
Rexypoo should be Laine's agent!
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Feb 14 @ 7:31 PM ET
Nope. You don’t try and get a player rolling by keeping him with the same declining centre at 5 on 5, moving him away from Wheeler on the powerplay, and cutting his overall minutes.
It’s idiotic.

- Rexypoo

He’s been moved off the pp for a whole three games and his minutes are down slightly, deservedly so. He does not come before the team. He needs to take some responsibility in this. It will be good for his development. The most funny thing about this on twitter is all the people saying he is shafted are probably all millinials used to having everything gifted to them in life. Wake up!!! Like Stallone says in over the top, the world meets nobody half way!!!!! Lol
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Feb 14 @ 7:51 PM ET
He’s been moved off the pp for a whole three games and his minutes are down slightly, deservedly so. He does not come before the team. He needs to take some responsibility in this. It will be good for his development. The most funny thing about this on twitter is all the people saying he is shafted are probably all millinials used to having everything gifted to them in life. Wake up!!! Like Stallone says in over the top, the world meets nobody half way!!!!! Lol
- Ross77





Prediction: Laine scores tonight and suddenly Jet's world is righted again....for a game or two.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Feb 14 @ 8:07 PM ET


Prediction: Laine scores tonight and suddenly Jet's world is righted again....for a game or two.

- jetsnation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fJxSREPg9s
Jets to Laine right now
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Feb 14 @ 8:14 PM ET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fJxSREPg9s
Jets to Laine right now

- Ross77


Laine is missing his fellow countryman in Armia. Numminen played an instrumental role in helping Selanne. Armia was doing the same for Laine.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Feb 14 @ 9:20 PM ET
1st, Petan and Comrie for Stone

or

1st 2019, 1st 2020, Petan, Comrie, Lemieux for Stone and Duchene.

- RFawkes


Ottawa would have zero interest in Comrie.....they probably have one of the best group of goalie prospects in teh league already, Comrie would probably be the 3rd ranked goalie out of that group.

i can't see a deal involving Stone getting done that doens't involve Vesalainen or Roslovic, or both

i get that the jets probably can't afford to re-sign him, and don't want to pay out the ass for a rental......but a ton of teams will want him, and will try to re-sign him.....so if Winnipeg wants him they have to offer as good of a package as those other teams
BWJumper
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Feb 14 @ 9:48 PM ET
Ottawa would have zero interest in Comrie.....they probably have one of the best group of goalie prospects in teh league already, Comrie would probably be the 3rd ranked goalie out of that group.

i can't see a deal involving Stone getting done that doens't involve Vesalainen or Roslovic, or both

i get that the jets probably can't afford to re-sign him, and don't want to pay out the ass for a rental......but a ton of teams will want him, and will try to re-sign him.....so if Winnipeg wants him they have to offer as good of a package as those other teams

- sensarmy_11


Ottawa couldn't get Meier or Labanc from San Jose in a Karlsson trade. You are not getting the Jets top prospect for Stone.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Feb 14 @ 9:52 PM ET
Ottawa would have zero interest in Comrie.....they probably have one of the best group of goalie prospects in teh league already, Comrie would probably be the 3rd ranked goalie out of that group.

i can't see a deal involving Stone getting done that doens't involve Vesalainen or Roslovic, or both

i get that the jets probably can't afford to re-sign him, and don't want to pay out the ass for a rental......but a ton of teams will want him, and will try to re-sign him.....so if Winnipeg wants him they have to offer as good of a package as those other teams

- sensarmy_11


You may be right, you may be wrong. Time is not on your side. If you dont get one of the offers you are expecting you might just have to take what you can get or risk losing both players for nothing.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Feb 14 @ 9:54 PM ET
With Dorian and his head scout here watching both the Jets and Moose games and the jets having two scouts at the Sens game. The parameters of a deal may already Be close?
BWJumper
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Feb 14 @ 10:35 PM ET
Interesting stat:
The last time Hellebuyck has gone consecutive games giving up 2 or less goals was a 3 game stretch Dec 4 - Dec 9
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Feb 14 @ 10:49 PM ET
Well. Laine played a much much better game than he has anytime in the last 20. Should have scored but somehow didn't. Only critique I have for him tonight was that he was the goat on Colorado's last goal when he slowed down and cursed himself instead of keeping up with the play and covering Nieto. Whatever, game was over by then anyways.

Jets played well but just couldn't capitalize. Colorado made the most of their chances.
PrairieFire
Joined: 09.04.2006

Feb 15 @ 8:56 AM ET
I just can't buy what a lot of folks are selling...that Ottawa will trade us Stone after they sign him.

Now why in the world would a rebuilding team trade a guy like Stone after they sign him.

Most of the time, the whole reason a player is put on the block is because the team worries about losing a quality player to UFA and receiving nothing in return after spending time developing said player.

This forces the team to consider trading him at the deadline for as much as they can get.
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Feb 15 @ 8:59 AM ET
A few thoughts:

Buff is not game shape yet is still rusty. PLus, looks like he tweaked something possibly again. But he is rusty, rusty.....

Laine played his best game in awhile, engaged, working for the puck and space, skating and focused, this is all he needs to do.......gave up skating after the arm went up tho....but a much better game

Myers was skating his butt off and trying to give the team some life, another good game for Myers........

Its time for trade injection therapy, hopefully Stone doesn't leave Wpg after Saturday.
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Feb 15 @ 9:36 AM ET
Someone on this board a short while ago said that Wpg wants a cup but doesn't want to lose our prospects. I think we are going to lose someone. Questions is who?

Wpg will have a low 1st rounder which will not be enough so what else do other teams want and who will Chevy part with? Prospect names but not ranked, just included for discussion.

Roslovic - only if Stone is signed by Ottawa and traded. Don't want to lose him but this could possibly happen.
Vesalainen - hope not
Niku - please not
Appleton - sure liking his game, hope he stays too
Suess - going to be developing for a while
Berdin - need a Moose goalie, they will hang on to Berdin
Stanley - Ottawa doesn't like giant Dmen, remember they traded away Chara? Plus he will be developing for a while yet. We could lose Stanley if need be.
Petan - sure, he needs a new home and we know he has a ton of skill, would be good opportunity for him
Poolman - another Dman prospect, would like to keep him and Poolman and Niku should be paired next year with the Jets, but he is a prospect to be potentially available
Lemieux - grinder, 4th liner working hard, potentially also a available prospect but with playoffs and the tough slugging ahead, perhaps Jets want to keep him

Did I miss anyone that a "rebuilding team" might value?

EDIT: I forgot Comrie but Ottawa apparently doesn't need a goalie as they are supposed to have a lot of young goalies. Plus, what happens after the deadline if something, heaven forbid, happens to Helle? Comrie is not going anywhere this season.

EDIT 2: Forgot Samberg as well. Another prospect Dman that might be wanted by another team. Made the USA squad, looks like a shutdown Dman.
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Feb 15 @ 10:26 AM ET
A better game from Laine, last night.
Giving credit where credit is due.
Hughjass
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 05.15.2017

Feb 15 @ 10:42 AM ET
Good post. I don't agree with your Wheeler and Scheif comparison though . Both are superior players ( and not UFA's) .
- jetsnation


Id take a 6 year younger Stone over wheeler anyday.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Feb 15 @ 11:48 AM ET
Interesting stat:
The last time Hellebuyck has gone consecutive games giving up 2 or less goals was a 3 game stretch Dec 4 - Dec 9

- BWJumper



Interesting point about Helle. I love him and do believe something is off in his game. It appears that whatever goalie Wade Flaherty touches becomes questionable. If you look at the goalies he's "touched", all have gone downhill after beginning their careers of hot with the Jets.
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Feb 15 @ 12:15 PM ET
Stoner might be our guy, I am hearing..................1st, Petan and a Moose prospect perhaps............who the Moose player would be? Niku, Appleton, Poolman? Jeez I hope not Niku.

Stoner in town????
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Feb 15 @ 12:24 PM ET
Someone on this board a short while ago said that Wpg wants a cup but doesn't want to lose our prospects. I think we are going to lose someone. Questions is who?

Wpg will have a low 1st rounder which will not be enough so what else do other teams want and who will Chevy part with? Prospect names but not ranked, just included for discussion.

Roslovic - only if Stone is signed by Ottawa and traded. Don't want to lose him but this could possibly happen.
Vesalainen - hope not
Niku - please not
Appleton - sure liking his game, hope he stays too
Suess - going to be developing for a while
Berdin - need a Moose goalie, they will hang on to Berdin
Stanley - Ottawa doesn't like giant Dmen, remember they traded away Chara? Plus he will be developing for a while yet. We could lose Stanley if need be.
Petan - sure, he needs a new home and we know he has a ton of skill, would be good opportunity for him
Poolman - another Dman prospect, would like to keep him and Poolman and Niku should be paired next year with the Jets, but he is a prospect to be potentially available
Lemieux - grinder, 4th liner working hard, potentially also a available prospect but with playoffs and the tough slugging ahead, perhaps Jets want to keep him

Did I miss anyone that a "rebuilding team" might value?

EDIT: I forgot Comrie but Ottawa apparently doesn't need a goalie as they are supposed to have a lot of young goalies. Plus, what happens after the deadline if something, heaven forbid, happens to Helle? Comrie is not going anywhere this season.

EDIT 2: Forgot Samberg as well. Another prospect Dman that might be wanted by another team. Made the USA squad, looks like a shutdown Dman.

- CharlieDog


Good post - any of these could be in play depending on the return.

Is anyone else suspicious of why Kulikov was scratched? Are they protecting his health and planning to bundle him with one of the prospects much like Armia and Mason? If so that would be a trade with a team needing a defenseman and reaching up to get to the cap floor. Ottawa may fit, especially if Ceci is also being moved.
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