Wheeler at age 26

71 games played; 26 goals; 35 assists; 61 total points

Stone at age 26 so far

57 games played; 26 goals; 31 assists; 57 points

There is the comparison.
- TheUltimateJet

👍 and we know Stone is one of the most defensively responsible forwards in the league with a better shot than 26......

Pretty sure now Stone will be wearing a Winnipeg Jet jersey by the end of the weekend.

Price is:

Jets 2019 1st and conditional 2020 4th, Poolman, and Petan. ( What Chevy will give)

or as painful as it sounds.....

Jack Roslovic. ( what Dorian wants)

That's my prediction and I'm sticking to it.

Connor - Scheif - Wheeler
Ehlers - Little - Stone
Perreault - Lowry - Laine
Tanev - Copp- ( Lemieux / Appleton)

...and Petan will be traded before the deadline even if not part of this deal. He's worth the equivalent of a low 3rd or high 4th.
- jetsnation

1st point,....before or after tonites game? LOL, I hope its before as I am going to the game. That would be a real circus if happens before. But again, what happens if a deal doesn't get done and Stone plays for Ottawa and he runs into Buff again? The trade deadline is over, picks and prospects are gone and its FA in summer. Maybe Jets hold Buff out tonite so he doesn't destroy Stone again.

2nd point.... That's what I had heard from someone that was connected but it wasn't decided yet on who the prospect (Moose player would be) Poolman has returned from his concussion and is racking up the points like crazy and a "plus player" (although nobody gives any credit to that anymore). Two more years at peanuts and he could have / perhaps should have been playing at the NHL level.

Wondering this morning, if I’m wrong and one of the guys I absolutely dont want to be included like, Roslovic, Niku, Vesalainen are, then what’s the chance we also acquire one of Ottawa’s Lesser prospects like Bathurst, fortenon (spelling on both I have no clue) ??

I will take what you are smoking good sir!!! Honestly, how can you say Stone is far better than Wheeler??? Wheeler makes 4 guys on the ice dangerous when he has the biscuit. Stone simply has a dangerous shot. The guy is a great goal scorer, but I would never say he is far better than the big Blake.

Lastly, coaching is not holding Laine back one bit. They have tried many combinations, but the kid is a black-hole. Once the puck goes to him, no jets players see it again. His weak 5v5 and passing game has hurt himself. His slump will end, and we will all be talking about how great-a-goalscorer he is, but there are MANY issues he needs to address with his game.

And yes, please do not trade Vesalainen, Niku, or Raslovic. If Appleton, Petan, or Lemieux must go, so be it.
- bikeguy99

Bad news on the Wheeler vs Stone front. Stone is literally better at everything. Produces point and goals at a higher rate, drives play a lot more, creates more scoring chances, and his defence is actually stronger than his offence overall.

As for Laine, they’ve tried the following combinations: Ehlers-Little-Laine, Connor-Little-Laine, Roslovic-Little-Laine. The end. A few shifts here and there do not count as an attempt.

On a Moose topic, Dano and Poolman are basically tied for points although Dano has the edge in goals.

Dano 28 gms 8g 8a 16 pts,
Poolman 27 gms 3g 12a 15pts. Poolman is a plus player (6) and Dano minus (4). Yes, yes, plus minus, ya, ya, ya

Just saying Poolman might be a valued tradeable prospect as well.
- CharlieDog

He’s 26. Hes on a 1 way deal. His value is non-existent outside the Jets. He’s not a prospect, he’s Myers’ replacement.

Firstly - most of the Tool-aid I see is coming from Twitter. Until you see through the bullpoop you will only see through the bullpoop, and too often spread it.

Secondly most criticism has not been about Laine's abilities - it has been about his lack of work done to get himself out of the slump. When he emerges from this slump he will be one significant step closer to being the player we expect him to be.
Most have been cognizant of his youth and the long development ahead of him before becoming a complete player. Frustration about the process is part of the process. Few are talking about trading him though short term we could do better. I am hoping he is a Jet for life.
- 2.0

Part 1: Uh, what? Where do you get your information from? The Free Press? Or the Sun? I personally love reading circle-jerky fluff pieces next to Birchwood ads. Follow the writers and analysts, get the information. Twitter works, m8

2: I literally got out of my car yesterday to the sound of some dumbass suggesting we use Laine and a 1st as trade pieces at the deadline, and got back in the car a half our later to the sound of another dumbass suggesting what we’re seeing now is the final version of Laine, and we should move on. At 20. While mid-slump. Next to Little.

Vesalainen and Niku are untouchable.
Vesalainen is the secret to surviving Wheeler’s ill-advised extension.
Niku is the chosen one next to Buff.

Don’t trade them for anything.

Ya I think it’s pretty obvious Petan is getting moved, if he doesn’t, that’s really scary for his interest level around the league.
I’m 100% not for including Roslovic in any deal. Maybe I’m just much higher on him then others. I see a late bloomer much like Zibanejad, who Ottawa gave up on too soon.
I also think Connor may be the one to get moved in the summer. A, because he will be asking for much more than what Ehlers currently makes and is not worth that. B, because if we have to trade Trouba, we may need to trade Connor for a young NHL D like Jake Bean, Ghost, Pesce, sanheim,
- Ross77

So if Buffalo offered you Eichel or if Edmonton offered you McDavid, you would not trade Roslovic. Yet you want to trade away Connor for peanuts?

Vesalainen and Niku are untouchable.
Vesalainen is the secret to surviving Wheeler’s ill-advised extension.
Niku is the chosen one next to Buff.

Don’t trade them for anything.
- Rexypoo

No one is untouchable! Wayne Gretzky, the greatest player to ever play the game definitely sure was not!

No one is untouchable! Wayne Gretzky, the greatest player to ever play the game definitely sure was not!
- TheUltimateJet

Niku and Vesalainen are untouchable, unless you’re getting a player of equal and/or fully realized potential that IS NOT a rental. You don’t move those two for anything, especially in a Mark Stone trade you can use Roslovic for.

So if Buffalo offered you Eichel or if Edmonton offered you McDavid, you would not trade Roslovic. Yet you want to trade away Connor for peanuts?
- TheUltimateJet

Yup that’s exactly what I said,
Common man!!!!!!!!!

No one is untouchable! Wayne Gretzky, the greatest player to ever play the game definitely sure was not!
- TheUltimateJet

Agreed 100% . Everyone can be had for the right price. That includes Niku or Vesalainen of Scheif even.

I personally think Connor is worth every penny up to about $6.5 MM per on a long term contract....maybe even a bit more. He's worth less as an RFA on a bridge, but Jets must be wary of offer sheets. He's a better player than Nylander who got more. Dzingle is a good comparison so it will be interesting to see what he gets. Ehlers is also a similar player to Dzingle so his salary is a starting point.

Wondering this morning, if I’m wrong and one of the guys I absolutely dont want to be included like, Roslovic, Niku, Vesalainen are, then what’s the chance we also acquire one of Ottawa’s Lesser prospects like Bathurst, fortenon (spelling on both I have no clue) ??
- Ross77

I had to ask myself the question , where does Roslovic fit in the lineup if we acquire Stone and once Ehlers comes back . Laine or Ehlers likely moves to the third line. Perreault likely stays there as well. Are you going to play Roslovic on the 4th line ?

So lets then look forward to next season. Suddenly we have Vesalainen in the mix. Maybe Stone wants to stay in Winnipeg. Laine is still here to move back up to second line. Its the same problem all over again... and then Roslovic is a RFA at the end of the year which we likely will not be able to afford.

Trust me that if it was announced that Stone was a Jet today but we lost Roslovic , I think the city would be pretty ecstatic and not too many fans would be crying about the loss. We also would retain our first round pick and maybe still have Petan and Poolman for some bait for another pick. Its not so bad really.

Agreed 100% . Everyone can be had for the right price. That includes Niku or Vesalainen of Scheif even.

I personally think Connor is worth every penny up to about $6.5 MM per on a long term contract....maybe even a bit more. He's worth less as an RFA on a bridge, but Jets must be wary of offer sheets. He's a better player than Nylander who got more. Dzingle is a good comparison so it will be interesting to see what he gets. Ehlers is also a similar player to Dzingle so his salary is a starting point.
- jetsnation

Connor is not even close to Nylander, nor is he worth as much as Ehlers.

I love Connor, but he’s totally one dimensional.
Defence is subpar, he doesn’t drive play at all, and his offence falls off when he’s off the top line. He’s the perfect player to bridge.

Connor is not even close to Nylander, nor is he worth as much as Ehlers.

I love Connor, but he’s totally one dimensional.
Defence is subpar, he doesn’t drive play at all, and his offence falls off when he’s off the top line. He’s the perfect player to bridge.
- Rexypoo

Its perfect proof you know nothing about hockey.