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- HawkintheD

Don't forget the oh-so crucial

Murphy? IMO, he is not enough.
- powerenforcer

Its only fitting that Manson wear the Indian Head...He would look great...just like his father....

Ward has improved fairly significantly since the last run of this. Believe he was below .900 on the last one.

NHL's worst goalies (at least 20 games played)

AA's bonus this summer is always talked about as an impediment to trading him. Does a salary floor team trade for him without salary being retained, or are they waiting until after the bonus gets paid? And from my armchair here, I don't have the contract info on all the other players, so I don't know the answer to who has a similar contract situation and can come back in a trade.

We know Torts loved coaching him, so what kind of deal can happen with Columbus?

Anyway, I don't think this contract will be easy to trade, or it probably would have happened by now.

Another question is who takes his spot in the lineup if he does get dealt?
- 333inthe3rd

Kampf maybe? Don’t know when he is expected to come off of IR.

If I remember correctly, other than salary cap nightmare of resiginng Panarin, and wanting Saad back, the Blackhawks didn't like his comment after the playoff saying he was tired during the playoff.....
- shidler

Panarin wasn't the problem with that team when they lose to St. Louis and then Nashville. I know they have a lot of needs throughout the lineup, but if they don't at least check in on Panarin and what he would cost, for a comment made in the past, Stan Bowman isn't doing his job.

I liked Panarin a lot while he was here, but give me Mark Stone over him for next year if the Hawks swing big for a forward.
- Justin Lowe

Stone and sign Dzingel for a hometown discount

Panarin wasn't the problem with that team when they lose to St. Louis and then Nashville. I know they have a lot of needs throughout the lineup, but if they don't at least check in on Panarin and what he would cost, for a comment made in the past, Stan Bowman isn't doing his job.
- frafra

I have to admit, with 2 lines clicking/ scoring, and let's say you trade AA back to CBJ or Kruger and it doesn't cost you draft picks or any good young players, now you might create 3 scoring lines?

Panarin wasn't the problem with that team when they lose to St. Louis and then Nashville. I know they have a lot of needs throughout the lineup, but if they don't at least check in on Panarin and what he would cost, for a comment made in the past, Stan Bowman isn't doing his job.
- frafra

As a side note, I saw the game that the Hawks lost to St. Louis during that playoff.
I have to say, #7 cost that game dearly....He was horrendous...His demise started that year...

Anybody notice what a great skater and physical specimen Perlini is...a 1st round draft choice but has zero hockey iq....What a shame....So much potential....This guy needs to work few stuff during off season....What a waste of a great talent..
- shidler

I don't think it is all his fault, being drafted by Arizona and playing for that organization has much to do with it too. Just like most of Edmonton draft picks, years wasted playing for that team. You have to sign Perlini and start him in Rock to learn some things to make him stronger. Do things the right way, put players in position to succeed. Look for long term players.

I have to admit, with 2 lines clicking/ scoring, and let's say you trade AA back to CBJ or Kruger and it doesn't cost you draft picks or any good young players, now you might create 3 scoring lines?
- BetweenTheDots

I am gonna go one further....I am not saying they will/won't, should/shouldn't get Panarin...but if they did, you have THREE lines, w the following two players on each one, and then you can plug in..

toews/saad/?
?/kane/panarin
strome/debrincat/?

I know their blue line needs work as well, and they need depth. But damn, that isn't a bad way to spread the wealth amongstthree lines...

I am gonna go one further....I am not saying they will/won't, should/shouldn't get Panarin...but if they did, you have THREE lines, w the following two players on each one, and then you can plug in..

toews/saad/?
?/kane/panarin
strome/debrincat/?

I know their blue line needs work as well, and they need depth. But damn, that isn't a bad way to spread the wealth amongstthree lines...
- frafra

I thought at the time Pitt traded for Kessel, they were reaching, 2 cups later. Not saying the Hawks would win the cup but this team kind of is shaping up that way.

Panarin-Toews-Kane
DeBrincat-Strome-Saad
Kubalik-Kämpf-Kahun
Tanev-Highmore-Hayden
- MjulQvist

That lineup would only possible in 2019/20 because DeBrincat, Strome, Kahun and Hayden will all need to be re-signed and unless Seabrook's cap hit is gone or some other major change to the cap situation they won't have the cap space. Maybe Saad would need to go or some combination of cap reducing moves.

I am gonna go one further....I am not saying they will/won't, should/shouldn't get Panarin...but if they did, you have THREE lines, w the following two players on each one, and then you can plug in..

toews/saad/?
?/kane/panarin
strome/debrincat/?

I know their blue line needs work as well, and they need depth. But damn, that isn't a bad way to spread the wealth amongstthree lines...
- frafra

I was going over the possible line-ups in my head as well. I'm worried about the 2nd center. Kahuna can stay with Adb and Strome. I'm fine with Caggiula on the top line, he's not shown a reason to take him off of it. 4th line is troubling too, Hayden and Kampf and ? Defense ... needs improvement as well. Rockford and prospects might be called upon to make that nhl leap.

As a side note, I saw the game that the Hawks lost to St. Louis during that playoff.
I have to say, #7 cost that game dearly....He was horrendous...His demise started that year...
- shidler

That was the game after which Seabs had to be carried onto the plane since he had hurt his back so badly earlier in the series.

More trading card stuff. Panarin is not coming to Chicago. He's looking to get paid and the Hawks can't afford him, especially with the concerns on defense and other resigns coming up. Simply not practical to be discussing him. Hawks are having NO PROBLEM scoring from their top two lines. Build the defense and add a solid depth center.

I don't think it is all his fault, being drafted by Arizona and playing for that organization has much to do with it too. Just like most of Edmonton draft picks, years wasted playing for that team. You have to sign Perlini and start him in Rock to learn some things to make him stronger. Do things the right way, put players in position to succeed. Look for long term players.
- powerenforcer

I agree, he looks like he's thinking instead of playing right now.

I also believe like many young taller players he really needs to get stronger on his skates, legs and core are to weak to play in NHL for now.

More trading card stuff. Panarin is not coming to Chicago. He's looking to get paid and the Hawks can't afford him, especially with the concerns on defense and other resigns coming up. Simply not practical to be discussing him. Hawks are having NO PROBLEM scoring from their top two lines. Build the defense and add a solid depth center.
- kwolf68

Oh i agree, but Bowman did trade away 2 second round picks for Kimmo? Or Danault for scrubs. There's always chance he'll do something stupid

G'morning DK.

Don't you mean other than this one which has him shattering his previous best point total? Think I read based on his pace, he's on track to hit 120 and his previous best with Arty was 106.

I'd prefer they sign a couple players (3C and top 4D) vs going all in on Panarin. Another top 6 fwd would be nice but I think they already have at least 5 of them in 88,19, 12, 17 and 20. Kahun and Caggiula are decent middle 6/top 6 fill ins, so I'd rather see them round out the depth vs going all in on one guy.

Now I'm off to play the lottery. Never thought I'd see the day where Stan wasn't directly named as the architect of all things wrong in Hawk nation let alone no mention of him at all. You're slipping.
- HawkintheD

Hey D, hope you're well pal.

Don't think I didn't miss your little comment about how Stan's disaster of a deal for Sharp didn't make the 10 ten all time bad trades. Stan's summer of suck tour 2015 still rates right up there - where Stan's first move was to resign David frickin' Rundblad. No question Kane's on a mission. And I'm certainly happy to give Stan credit for some deals this season - most notably Strome...but wasn't Schmaltz supposed to be the 2nd coming? You mentioned Caggiula - why is he here because of another horrid UFA signing by Stan in Manning. But you have to give Stan props for unloading him. Kahun has been an interesting surprise.

The biggest concern is the defense remains a trainwreck. And Stan knew that going into last offseason...how did that work out? Yes help is on the way we hope- but how are those picks going to pan out?

As far as the offseason, I'd love to see them fill the roster with some quality depth starting with defense, but you know that McD wants the big splash...and Bowman has admitted as much that they'll make a run at Arty.

It's nice to see them on a bit of a run here...but I'm interested to see how they do against better/playoff competition towards the end of the season here. They did not look good at all against Bahsten and that was more of a measuring stick.

Should be an interesting offseason...

Would someone who watches Rockford please tell me who is more NHL ready between Gilbert and Hillman? Also, do either have a second-pairing ceiling, or are they 3rd pair/AHL dmen?

What would be a fair contract for ADB and Strome if they would sign this off season?

ADB $6.5x5 years?
Would Strome sign for $5 for 3 to 5 years?

I worry that if Bowman waits until their RFA summer, and ADB has 2 consecutive 40 goal seasons, we won't even be able to afford him on a bridge deal.
Strome has been averaging almost a PPG since coming over. Again, if he plays like this the rest of this year and next year, what will he ask for?

Erik Karlsson is 29 in May.....you think it’s a good idea to give him $10 mil x 7 years???
- EnzoD

I'm not saying if Karlsson is a good idea or not, I'm just saying I can see Stan signing him.

Just please get rid of #7 and #2.
- shidler

Is there a possibility that Crow gets traded.....I'm comfortable with Ward/Delia combination...
- shidler

not at this trade deadline...and he decides with a NMC just like keith and seabs

he will be here for the last year of his contract..

Hey D, hope you're well pal.

Don't think I didn't miss your little comment about how Stan's disaster of a deal for Sharp didn't make the 10 ten all time bad trades. Stan's summer of suck tour 2015 still rates right up there - where Stan's first move was to resign David frickin' Rundblad. No question Kane's on a mission. And I'm certainly happy to give Stan credit for some deals this season - most notably Strome...but wasn't Schmaltz supposed to be the 2nd coming? You mentioned Caggiula - why is he here because of another horrid UFA signing by Stan in Manning. But you have to give Stan props for unloading him. Kahun has been an interesting surprise.

The biggest concern is the defense remains a trainwreck. And Stan knew that going into last offseason...how did that work out? Yes help is on the way we hope- but how are those picks going to pan out?

As far as the offseason, I'd love to see them fill the roster with some quality depth starting with defense, but you know that McD wants the big splash...and Bowman has admitted as much that they'll make a run at Arty.

It's nice to see them on a bit of a run here...but I'm interested to see how they do against better/playoff competition towards the end of the season here. They did not look good at all against Bahsten and that was more of a measuring stick.

Should be an interesting offseason...
- DK002

I’m not putting this team in the Cup convo or even the deep run picture, but playoffs?

Yes they can compete for a playoff spot and have shown as much of late, especially with some of the other middling teams fighting to get out of the Hawks way.

As far as Schmaltz being the second coming, I never saw him annointed that anywhere other than people taking swipes at him here or in the Twitter verse.

He was a decent pick at 20 or 21whichever the Hawks grabbed him tat and was made into Lemonade with the trade that got us Strome.

Boston’s a good team and I don’t have any doubt they would likely beat the Hawks in a 7 game series, but one bad game after a 7 game win streak is hardly the be all end all barometer some have made it out to be here...IMHO.

Trades are coming....

Saw on the Tweets that Edmonton and Vancouver are working on a deal, something along the lines of Gagner for Spooner.