First off I think Connor, Roslovic, Niku and Vesalainen should all be off the table!!
But if you are talking a trade now or in the summer, I’m moving Connor not Roslovic. I think Connor has more value now and Roslovic (with Center potential ) will have more value down the road. I think a great comparison for Roslovic is Zbinajed, who took a little longer to develop in to what he is today. Let’s not pull an Ottawa and trade our future Zbinajed for Brassard like they did.

Stone is great but also Is having a career year!! Let’s remember that. Stone is a 60 point guy who’s very good in both ends but also never scored 30. These stats are not mind blowing.
- Ross77

Yeah, but he's a 60-70 point winger who puts up said points while playing a Selke level game. Therein lies his true worth.

Priority 1- 2nd line centre.
Priority 2- Left shooting D
They do not have to come from Ottawa.
Remember when Vegas blocked us last year. Jets mg't. will do this one way or the other.It may be a smaller 'named' deal than what we are all expecting.
But hopefully will be a very effective solution!

Yeah, but he's a 60-70 point winger who puts up said points while playing a Selke level game. Therein lies his true worth.
- Wildschwein

I think you mean 54-64 point winger who’s convieniently haveing a career year as a pending UFA, never sent that before. I like Stone, I do!!! But some offers from both fan bases have been ridiculous. Ridiculously high and ridiculously low. There in lies the truth.

I think you mean 54-64 point winger who’s convieniently haveing a career year as a pending UFA, never sent that before. I like Stone, I do!!! But some offers from both fan bases have been ridiculous. Ridiculously high and ridiculously low. There in lies the truth.
- Ross77

Ross, Wheeler keeps getting better with age. I believe that Stone is cut from the same cloth as he.

I think you mean 54-64 point winger who’s convieniently haveing a career year as a pending UFA, never sent that before. I like Stone, I do!!! But some offers from both fan bases have been ridiculous. Ridiculously high and ridiculously low. There in lies the truth.
- Ross77

No I mean 60/70 point winger. His last 4 years are as follows:

15/16 - 61 points in 75 games
16/17 - 54 points in 71 games
17/18 - 62 points in 58(!) games
18/19 - 59 points in 58 games

Stones “career” year was arguably last year. This is his second consecutive year producing at a PPG (or better) pace, and he was on pace for 70(+) points in 3 of his last 4 years, had he played a full 82 games.

Stone is a 60/70 point winger.

Ross, Wheeler keeps getting better with age. I believe that Stone is cut from the same cloth as he.
- TheUltimateJet

That he is, much the same as Wheeler and Marchand.

No I mean 60/70 point winger. His last 4 years are as follows:

15/16 - 61 points in 75 games
16/17 - 54 points in 71 games
17/18 - 62 points in 58(!) games
18/19 - 59 points in 58 games

Stones “career” year was arguably last year. This is his second consecutive year producing at a PPG (or better) pace, and he was on pace for 70(+) points in 3 of his last 4 years, had he played a full 82 games.

Stone is a 60/70 point winger.
- Wildschwein

This. The guy misses a lot of games for his age the last three years but he’s been healthy this year. He’s a 60-70 point two way beast.

Chevy will not trade Niku, Ves, Stanley or Samberg for a rental i Stone who will be too expensive to resign.

Yeah, but he's a 60-70 point winger who puts up said points while playing a Selke level game. Therein lies his true worth.
- Wildschwein

I'm a big Stone fan as well, as most of you know, and I think he also will sign in Winnipeg. He wants to be here with his family. I'm not afraid to lose Niku or Roslovic , etc to get him if he stays. I think Connor is elite though with a higher ceiling than Roslovic, and Jets should keep him.

I'm a big Stone fan as well, as most of you know, and I think he also will sign in Winnipeg. He wants to be here with his family. I'm not afraid to lose Niku or Roslovic , etc to get him if he stays. I think Connor is elite though with a higher ceiling than Roslovic, and Jets should keep him.
- jetsnation

IMO - Not going any place (hopefully) - Scheifele, Wheeler, Connor, Ehlers, Lowry, Tanev, Morrissey, Buff, Myers, Roslovic, Samberg and Hellebuyck.
Available - Vesalainen, Appleton, Lemieux, Petan, Perrault, Niku, Stanley, Comrie, 1st Rd'er, Poolman, Spacek, Virtanen and Gustafsson. But would hurt to lose especially Niku!
The rest - ???

Let's get one thing out of the way- The Jets or any team is not getting any of these guys for spare parts and draft picks.

They will have to give up something to get something. The question becomes what parts are worth the risk to give up?

There will be many variables here but Dorian is going to get something that helps him it's whether he can extract it right. He's playing poker and he has to get enough other GMS to get money on the table at the same time. That's the trick.

If the status quo is okay with Winnipeg as they play now then why even ask for Stone. We're good right? The reason you get Stone is to improve the team and buck this trend of play they have.

Ya gotta pay to play!

IMO - Not going any place (hopefully) - Scheifele, Wheeler, Connor, Ehlers, Lowry, Tanev, Morrissey, Buff, Myers, Roslovic, Samberg and Hellebuyck.
Available - Vesalainen, Appleton, Lemieux, Petan, Perrault, Niku, Stanley, Comrie, 1st Rd'er, Poolman, Spacek, Virtanen and Gustafsson. But would hurt to lose especially Niku!
The rest - ???
- grahamzky

I think Samberg would also be avaialble and Kulikov if we are moving money around. I don't think Comrie is available at this point, imop.

Let's get one thing out of the way- The Jets or any team is not getting any of these guys for spare parts and draft picks.

They will have to give up something to get something. The question becomes what parts are worth the risk to give up?

There will be many variables here but Dorian is going to get something that helps him it's whether he can extract it right. He's playing poker and he has to get enough other GMS to get money on the table at the same time. That's the trick.

If the status quo is okay with Winnipeg as they play now then why even ask for Stone. We're good right? The reason you get Stone is to improve the team and buck this trend of play they have.
- Peter.Tessier

So Dorian and Kekalainen between them have 4 fresh pieces of prime rib hanging in their shop on display with the objective of extracting a premium price from the most interested shoppers - Chevy, Poile, Lamoriello. GM's Sweeney, Dubas and McPhee are window shopping pretending to not be that interested.

So who jumps first and pays the most?

I say Poile and then what does Chevy do.

Let's get one thing out of the way- The Jets or any team is not getting any of these guys for spare parts and draft picks.

They will have to give up something to get something. The question becomes what parts are worth the risk to give up?

There will be many variables here but Dorian is going to get something that helps him it's whether he can extract it right. He's playing poker and he has to get enough other GMS to get money on the table at the same time. That's the trick.

If the status quo is okay with Winnipeg as they play now then why even ask for Stone. We're good right? The reason you get Stone is to improve the team and buck this trend of play they have.
- Peter.Tessier

Yep, not going to get something for nothing, that is for sure. Sens are looking at the future so they will want the primo pieces like Roslovic, Appleton, Conner, etc that will blossom in the future along with their young talent. Whether Chevy will part with the above reamins to be seen but the addition of Stone would surely help this team immediatley, which is what we want.

I like both players but can't understand for the life of me why people want to keep Roslo over Connor ... based on play now and expected play

Let's get one thing out of the way- The Jets or any team is not getting any of these guys for spare parts and draft picks.

They will have to give up something to get something. The question becomes what parts are worth the risk to give up?

There will be many variables here but Dorian is going to get something that helps him it's whether he can extract it right. He's playing poker and he has to get enough other GMS to get money on the table at the same time. That's the trick.

If the status quo is okay with Winnipeg as they play now then why even ask for Stone. We're good right? The reason you get Stone is to improve the team and buck this trend of play they have.
- Peter.Tessier

For a signed Stone?

Roslovic
One of Vesalainen/Niku
2019 1st

I like both players but can't understand for the life of me why people want to keep Roslo over Connor ... based on play now and expected play
- CorydonKeith

I think it is understood that Connor is ahead of Rosie at the moment development wise but Rosie has the potential to further develop and as a "center". Plus, Connor could possibly go Jerry Mcquire on us in summer saying, "show me the money" where as Rosie's next contract is possibly more manageable.

That is my take. I am neither here or there on either, I like them both.

I think Samberg would also be avaialble and Kulikov if we are moving money around. I don't think Comrie is available at this point, imop.
- CharlieDog

Probably correct about Samberg. IF we give up Niku, then think we need to keep Samberg. Kulikov? Probably available but playing best hockey of career right now. Don't think we have to worry about the $$$ factor right now, lots of current cap space.
Never have too many d-men at playoff time, eh? Comrie? Might have to deal.

I like both players but can't understand for the life of me why people want to keep Roslo over Connor ... based on play now and expected play
- CorydonKeith

I totally agree, with the exception that Connor's payday comes as early as next year , where Roslovic is deferred a few years.

The other thing Chevy will be looking at is the Seattle expansion and where some of these prospects and current Jets may be at that time. It truly is a game of chess where every move has to be carefully planned.

Do NOT trade Samberg. Have to see what we have in him. Almost 6’3” 210’lbs , played well in college and great at World Juniors.

Forwards and our 1st I would look at moving but D you need to be sure.

Sorry 6’4”....... I just think forwards easier to find

We're good right? The reason you get Stone is to improve the team and buck this trend of play they have.
- Peter.Tessier

Yes, Jets are good...top echelon of the league. Rentals are not to buck a short term slump. They are done because we are not as good as Tampa and possibly not San Jose. If we want to beat those teams in the playoffs ( and a possibly a few others) the Jets need to add.....period !

I totally agree, with the exception that Connor's payday comes as early as next year , where Roslovic is deferred a few years.

The other thing Chevy will be looking at is the Seattle expansion and where some of these prospects and current Jets may be at that time. It truly is a game of chess where every move has to be carefully planned.
- jetsnation

And we should pay him ... lock him up long term - I have always liked what I see

However -

Didn't think of the Seattle expansion - that changes the landscape for sure ... I haven't gone through the roster exercise but, d_mn, I want 81 on my roster

I totally agree, with the exception that Connor's payday comes as early as next year , where Roslovic is deferred a few years.

The other thing Chevy will be looking at is the Seattle expansion and where some of these prospects and current Jets may be at that time. It truly is a game of chess where every move has to be carefully planned.
- jetsnation

Ottawa needs to rebuild not only its roster but also its reputation with players as a place where people are treated well and therefore a desirable destination. Accomodating Stone to Wpg (if that is a preferred destination for him) would help. Does he sign a contract with understanding that it will be played out in Wpg?

if Stone is signed then the conversation changes from rental to a hockey trade. Connor is a fair centrepiece for a signed Stone and makes some sense for all the reasons you stated. The next question is - what does it take to get a signed stone and Duchene rental? Connor, Poolman, 1st and pieces?