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Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Feb 18 @ 8:47 AM ET
I said the same thing elsewhere. Might be worth the gamble. Lehkonen is losing value more and more...
- deadpoulet



Is the 2nd pick necessary? Puljujarvi's numbers aren't that impressive either... I guess he has more value since he's a 4th overall pick
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Feb 18 @ 8:48 AM ET
It's a tough call.... Puljujarvi has had an even harder time finding the back of the net than Lehkonen has, but there's lots to like about him and if you make that trade and he busts out, you look like a damn genius
- obie

He's 6'4", 20 years old and a right shot...all things the Habs need.
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Feb 18 @ 8:48 AM ET
Is the 2nd pick necessary? Puljujarvi's numbers aren't that impressive either... I guess he has more value since he's a 4th overall pick
- Pat1993


Thanks for answering your own question...
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 18 @ 8:49 AM ET
Is the 2nd pick necessary? Puljujarvi's numbers aren't that impressive either... I guess he has more value since he's a 4th overall pick
- Pat1993


Yea and he's only 20 still, Edmonton won't just give him away
Symba.007
Location: Caitlin > Kim -bigzby, ON
Joined: 03.23.2010

Feb 18 @ 8:50 AM ET
Happy family day for those living in BC, Alberta, Manitoba, Ontario, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, PEI and Saskatchewan.

for those living in Quebec, Nfld and Yukon...sucks to be you today....same for those working for the feds.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Feb 18 @ 8:51 AM ET
Thanks for answering your own question...
- BashCH




Anytime!
Symba.007
Location: Caitlin > Kim -bigzby, ON
Joined: 03.23.2010

Feb 18 @ 8:51 AM ET
Yea and he's only 20 still, Edmonton won't just give him away
- obie

they will want more than Lehkonen IMO, they are trading potential...they will want the same in return.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 18 @ 8:51 AM ET
He's 6'4", 20 years old and a right shot...all things the Habs need.
- BashCH


Absolutely, he would be quite the add to the young core they're building if he were to pan out
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
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Feb 18 @ 8:51 AM ET
It's a tough call.... Puljujarvi has had an even harder time finding the back of the net than Lehkonen has, but there's lots to like about him and if you make that trade and he busts out, you look like a damn genius
- obie



Lehkonen + 1st round pick
Puljujarvi + 3rd round pick

obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 18 @ 8:53 AM ET
they will want more than Lehkonen IMO, they are trading potential...they will want the same in return.
- Symba.007


Indeed... I think they would want a young D, one of Brook or Romanov
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Feb 18 @ 8:53 AM ET
Is the 2nd pick necessary? Puljujarvi's numbers aren't that impressive either... I guess he has more value since he's a 4th overall pick
- Pat1993


The Oilers won't trade him for Lehkonen straight up. I don't think they would trade him for Lehkonen and a 2nd either, but I would not give more.

You buy low (Domi and Tatar) when you can. It's a gamble, but that's how Bergevin helped this team out this summer. A 2nd round pick would be a huge gamble anyway.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 18 @ 8:54 AM ET
Lehkonen + 1st round pick
Puljujarvi + 3rd round pick

- Not_Yan


I say no, too much uncertainty surrounding Puljujarvi to gamble this year's 1st away, I think anyway
Not_Yan
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Feb 18 @ 8:55 AM ET

Hmm just looked at Lehkonen's stats, his value must be so low that he's not even worth trading him. I think a team like Ottawa would have better assets for Edmontonfor a Pulju deal.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
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Joined: 08.28.2009

Feb 18 @ 8:57 AM ET
Hmm just looked at Lehkonen's stats, his value must be so low that he's not even worth trading him. I think a team like Ottawa would have better assets for Edmontonfor a Pulju deal.
- Not_Yan




If that's the case, Hudon's value probably isn't very high either...
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 18 @ 8:57 AM ET
Hmm just looked at Lehkonen's stats, his value must be so low that he's not even worth trading him. I think a team like Ottawa would have better assets for Edmontonfor a Pulju deal.
- Not_Yan


I think they'll trade Lehkonen as a RFA this summer
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
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Feb 18 @ 8:58 AM ET
Hmm just looked at Lehkonen's stats, his value must be so low that he's not even worth trading him. I think a team like Ottawa would have better assets for Edmontonfor a Pulju deal.
- Not_Yan


Yeah but he's very good without the puck.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
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Feb 18 @ 8:58 AM ET
If that's the case, Hudon's value probably isn't very high either...
- Pat1993


They'd be lucky to get a 5th for Hudon
Not_Yan
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Feb 18 @ 8:59 AM ET
I say no, too much uncertainty surrounding Puljujarvi to gamble this year's 1st away, I think anyway
- obie


Yes and no. The probability of hitting a homerun with a kinda-late 1st round pick is very low anyway, so it's worth it IMO.

Dylan Strome looked like a bust and then exploded in Chicago...
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
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Feb 18 @ 8:59 AM ET
They'd be lucky to get a 5th for Hudon
- obie


Bergevin will probably trade him for a 4th line grinder (à la Andrighetto vs Martinsen)
Not_Yan
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Feb 18 @ 8:59 AM ET
Yeah but he's very good without the puck.
- BashCH


That's also why we should keep him.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Feb 18 @ 8:59 AM ET
I think they'll trade Lehkonen as a RFA this summer
- obie


Yeah, at some point he will only take a spot. Some of our prospects should be pushing to make the line-up next season (one would think).
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Feb 18 @ 9:01 AM ET
That's also why we should keep him.
- Not_Yan


Meh. We have 3 good centres right now. In theory, all three lines should be able to contribute with goals.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 18 @ 9:04 AM ET
Yes and no. The probability of hitting a homerun with a kinda-late 1st round pick is very low anyway, so it's worth it IMO.

Dylan Strome looked like a bust and then exploded in Chicago...

- Not_Yan


True enough... but that 1st could still end up being a top 15 pick, maybe even top 10, still lots of hockey to be played! It would be very intriguing to add a player like that for sure... but if Puljujarvi turns out to be a bust and Edmonton drafts a solid D with that pick, the Habs take a big step backwards... would you trade Suzuki straight up for him?
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
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Feb 18 @ 9:06 AM ET
Yeah, at some point he will only take a spot. Some of our prospects should be pushing to make the line-up next season (one would think).
- deadpoulet


That's how i see it also, too many players leaping over him on the depth chart already
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 18 @ 9:07 AM ET
Meh. We have 3 good centres right now. In theory, all three lines should be able to contribute with goals.
- deadpoulet


I think they should try putting Domi back on the wing for a couple games, preferably with Kotkaniemi at C
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