so what's your suggestion, don't get draft picks because they have drafted poorly since 1982? this post is nuts
- jimbro83

I don't think the mad rush by Tom to tank and trade our better players for draft picks might be the best route to go given our recent draft history by current scouting staff. I can distinctly remember you not being overly joyed with our top picks the last few drafts. I worry trading for picks that won't be ready for two, three or four years may NEVEF be ready. And wasn't it you just wondering why the Wolfpack has sucked? For years???.

we should sign Brayden Point to an offer sheet on July 1st

Tampa has like 5 million left to sign Point, Erne and Paquette with only 4 defensemen signed and Vasilevskiy is a RFA after next year

they are ripe to be taken

I don't think the mad rush by Tom to tank and trade our better players for draft picks might be the best route to go given our recent draft history by current scouting staff. I can distinctly remember you not being overly joyed with our top picks the last few drafts. I worry trading for picks that won't be ready for two, three or four years may NEVEF be ready. And wasn't it you just wondering why the Wolfpack has sucked? For years???.
- Downeaster

I don't think past draft pick failures have anything to do with prepping for this coming draft

nothing

what do you want, you want Hayes and Zucc to walk and we get nothing like the Isles got for Tavares last year?

you try and try again, mistakes of the past have nothing to do with what they on draft day this June

so what's your suggestion, don't get draft picks because they have drafted poorly since 1982? this post is nuts
- jimbro83

Let alone it ignores the fact they drafted a hall of fame defensemen and goalie in that time period and a goalie that was the backbone to a championship, but you know they didn’t score 30 goals so it doesn’t count. Also ignoring the fact the rangers have traded several picks in said time frame.

I’ve said it before and I’ll die on the hill, given the lack of draft capital, we’ve been one of the best teams in the whole league drafting and scouting rookie free agents.

This is an exciting time, I don’t know the team has ever had the amount of prospects they have and will get through trades.

Let alone it ignores the fact they drafted a hall of fame defensemen and goalie in that time period and a goalie that was the backbone to a championship, but you know they didn’t score 30 goals so it doesn’t count. Also ignoring the fact the rangers have traded several picks in said time frame.

I’ve said it before and I’ll die on the hill, given the lack of draft capital, we’ve been one of the best teams in the whole league drafting and scouting rookie free agents.

This is an exciting time, I don’t know the team has ever had the amount of prospects they have and will get through trades.
- 2sticks1puck

people pick these aribitrary stats all the time, this is a new one

it's like the HaitinKid always obsessed that Kreider never hit 50 points

I could talk Ranger history all day, Ulf Dahlen scored over 30 a couple of times, he was a high Ranger pick. He did it with another team, you know why? because we traded him for Mike Gartner. I never heard one Ranger fan regret trading for Mike Gartner.

I don't think the mad rush by Tom to tank and trade our better players for draft picks might be the best route to go given our recent draft history by current scouting staff. I can distinctly remember you not being overly joyed with our top picks the last few drafts. I worry trading for picks that won't be ready for two, three or four years may NEVEF be ready. And wasn't it you just wondering why the Wolfpack has sucked? For years???.
- Downeaster

I don’t fully agree with the Tom method, but rebuilds in sports pretty much involve tearing it down and a long painful process. I don’t want us to go halfway on this, we really need to continue to trade and build for the future.

I think the team has finally started to address the Pack. It was ignored for years and it needs to have full attention now.

What exactly about the devils screams win now? I think most realistic fans realized last year was a bit of an outlier and we are still rebuilding

I don't think past draft pick failures have anything to do with prepping for this coming draft

nothing

what do you want, you want Hayes and Zucc to walk and we get nothing like the Isles got for Tavares last year?

you try and try again, mistakes of the past have nothing to do with what they on draft day this June
- jimbro83

It actually has alot to do with it when its the same incompetent scouting staff led by two dinosaurs in Sather and especially Clark who is absolutely terrible at his job. So you cant blame people if they're not that optimistic that they will be able to rebuild this franchise.

It actually has alot to do with it when its the same incompetent scouting staff led by two dinosaurs in Sather and especially Clark who is absolutely terrible at his job. So you cant blame people if they're not that optimistic that they will be able to rebuild this franchise.
- dman78

I really dont understand all the negativity thrown Clark's way right now

I really dont understand all the negativity thrown Clark's way right now
- jimbro83

I've never been a fan of him personally take Anderson for example you pick a guy 7th overall and he cant play on a team that's rebuilding and is struggling in Harford granted its a poop show there.

I've never been a fan of him personally take Anderson for example you pick a guy 7th overall and he cant play on a team that's rebuilding and is struggling in Harford granted its a poop show there.
- dman78

but no credit for Chytil?

but no credit for Chytil?
- jimbro83

Chytil has shown flashes no doubt and maybe I'm just a frustrated fan but look at this team its the veteran players scoring on a consistent basis and none of these young players excite me all that much.

I don't think past draft pick failures have anything to do with prepping for this coming draft

nothing

what do you want, you want Hayes and Zucc to walk and we get nothing like the Isles got for Tavares last year?

you try and try again, mistakes of the past have nothing to do with what they on draft day this June
- jimbro83

I think Gorton may have made a mistake not trying to extend a few of these guys. Maybe what we have now might be better than what we draft for them in 2, 3 or 4 years. I hope our three first rounders last year turn out to be great NHL players. I hope the same for Joey Keane and Nico Gross too. I also was ecstatic when Pavel Brenda and Jamie Lundmark were picked. And I sat in the stands in November of 1974 and watched Nifty score 4 goals in a 10-0 drubbing of the California Golden Seals only to watch him turn into Wayne Cashman shortly thereafter. And I was at the game last week celebrating one Cup in 78 years. But I still love my Rangers and still dread the picks they make will follow suit. I don't want to hear Bob McKenzie say "the Rangers went off the board" again. I'm getting to old for this stuff.

Chytil has shown flashes no doubt and maybe I'm just a frustrated fan but look at this team its the veteran players scoring on a consistent basis and none of these young players excite me all that much.
- dman78

they've had 5 first rounders the last 2 years, gotta give them all some time to get here

I mean this attitude that you guys have that you dont want picks is crazy

the main reason that we are in the mode we are in now is because we traded all our first rounders 4 years in a row in an attempt to go for it

they've had 5 first rounders the last 2 years, gotta give them all some time to get here

I mean this attitude that you guys have that you dont want picks is crazy

the main reason that we are in the mode we are in now is because we traded all our first rounders 4 years in a row in an attempt to go for it
- jimbro83

Downeaster nailed it, it’s not that we don’t want picks. It’s that we constantly go off the board and grab guys ahead of where we could’ve gotten them. Last year was a good draft outside of the 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th and 7th round haha.

I think Gorton may have made a mistake not trying to extend a few of these guys. Maybe what we have now might be better than what we draft for them in 2, 3 or 4 years. I hope our three first rounders last year turn out to be great NHL players. I hope the same for Joey Keane and Nico Gross too. I also was ecstatic when Pavel Brenda and Jamie Lundmark were picked. And I sat in the stands in November of 1974 and watched Nifty score 4 goals in a 10-0 drubbing of the California Golden Seals only to watch him turn into Wayne Cashman shortly thereafter. And I was at the game last week celebrating one Cup in 78 years. But I still love my Rangers and still dread the picks they make will follow suit. I don't want to hear Bob McKenzie say "the Rangers went off the board" again. I'm getting to old for this stuff.
- Downeaster

well that was for Ken Hodge not Cashman, but bad trades have nothing to do with drafting poorly

some of the trades over the years have been worse than the bad draft picks, because they weren't patient enough to let guys develop, I think patience is needed now

Downeaster nailed it, it’s not that we don’t want picks. It’s that we constantly go off the board and grab guys ahead of where we could’ve gotten them. Last year was a good draft outside of the 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th and 7th round haha.
- nyrangers9479

all the guys in those rounds are crapshoots, nobody knows how anyone of them will work out for years

Chytil has shown flashes no doubt and maybe I'm just a frustrated fan but look at this team its the veteran players scoring on a consistent basis and none of these young players excite me all that much.
- dman78

I fully agree here. There isn’t one young nhl or Ahl player that seems to be that major impact player. Still early but I want a Petterson type player

I fully agree here. There isn’t one young nhl or Ahl player that seems to be that major impact player. Still early but I want a Petterson type player
- nyrangers2

gotta pick in the top 5 for that chance usually

we should sign Brayden Point to an offer sheet on July 1st

Tampa has like 5 million left to sign Point, Erne and Paquette with only 4 defensemen signed and Vasilevskiy is a RFA after next year

they are ripe to be taken
- jimbro83

Jimbo-

Not a horrible idea, just curious: How big an offer sheet and what compensation are you willing to send to Tampa?

all the guys in those rounds are crapshoots, nobody knows how anyone of them will work out for years
- jimbro83

I can tell you how Oolaf will turn out......if I remember correctly guys like A. Thomas, Wilde and McCloud were still on the board. Roll the dice with guys like that, not on a goalie that is 5+ years from the NHL and late round goalies have similar success rates as 1st and 2nd round goalies

Jimbo-

Not a horrible idea, just curious: How big an offer sheet and what compensation are you willing to send to Tampa?
- TommyGTrain

Why not just sign Panarin or Duchene

Jimbo-

Not a horrible idea, just curious: How big an offer sheet and what compensation are you willing to send to Tampa?
- TommyGTrain

an offer sheet between $8,118,642 to $10,148,302 is compensation of Two firsts, a second and third-round picks

if we don't land a big UFA fish July 1st, I say sign Point to an offer sheet, 7 years, $10,148,302 a year

I can tell you how Oolaf will turn out......if I remember correctly guys like A. Thomas, Wilde and McCloud were still on the board. Roll the dice with guys like that, not on a goalie that is 5+ years from the NHL and late round goalies have similar success rates as 1st and 2nd round goalies
- nyrangers9479

ok, it's one pick that was really bad

but also, you gotta remember, that having additional picks gives them more flexibility to move up too

using that extra 2nd rounder to trade up for K'Andre looks to be brilliant

Kucherov has 15 points in his last 4 games