how is Brayden Point only a 65 point player?
- jimbro83

Lol I’m just catching up on the thread. Anyway, I can’t agree with you on Point. There is no doubt he is an outstanding player, but we are just now recovering from the damage that not having 4 first rounds picks did to us. I wouldn’t want to put us in a hole like that again. Think of how much worse things would have been if Hayes didn’t fall in our laps in that time period?

Lol I’m just catching up on the thread. Anyway, I can’t agree with you on Point. There is no doubt he is an outstanding player, but we are just now recovering from the damage that not having 4 first rounds picks did to us. I wouldn’t want to put us in a hole like that again. Think of how much worse things would have been if Hayes didn’t fall in our laps in that time period?
- 2sticks1puck

well I suggest the highest possible offer sheet that the compensation is 2 first rounders 1 second and 1 third.

it would affect the 2020 draft and 2021

you stock up with picks at this draft, I mean this kid is still 22 not even 23 yet.

He's better than Eichel IMO

well I suggest the highest possible offer sheet that the compensation is 2 first rounders 1 second and 1 third.

it would affect the 2020 draft and 2021

you stock up with picks at this draft, I mean this kid is still 22 not even 23 yet.

He's better than Eichel IMO
- jimbro83

He absolutely is better than Eichel. I wonder if there is a way ala the 90s where you offer sheet him and you work out the comp with the team. I think other than Kravs, I wouldn’t consider any of our young players untouchable getting a player the caliber of Point

well I suggest the highest possible offer sheet that the compensation is 2 first rounders 1 second and 1 third.

it would affect the 2020 draft and 2021

you stock up with picks at this draft, I mean this kid is still 22 not even 23 yet.

He's better than Eichel IMO
- jimbro83

sounds like everyone is forgetting this rule - again
probably reason #1 why there's so few offer sheets...

"The AAV for an offer sheet, which determines the compensation required, is derived by dividing the total contract value amount by the lesser of:
number of years offered, or
five (5) years" - CapFriendly

sounds like everyone is forgetting this rule - again
probably reason #1 why there's so few offer sheets...

"The AAV for an offer sheet, which determines the compensation required, is derived by dividing the total contract value amount by the lesser of:
number of years offered, or
five (5) years" - CapFriendly
- 21peter

whatever the highest amount is that the compensation isn't 4 first rounders

two firsts, a second and a third

that's the offer sheet I'd put out there

if the Rangers strike out on the UFA's on July 1st

whatever the highest amount is that the compensation isn't 4 first rounders

two firsts, a second and a third

that's the offer sheet I'd put out there

if the Rangers strike out on the UFA's on July 1st
- jimbro83

which means you actually believe we can sign one of the top UFA's for a 5 max year deal with a max 10M per. this is your opinion?

which means you actually believe we can sign one of the top UFA's for a 5 max year deal with a max 10M per. this is your opinion?
- 21peter

yeah, I believe we can, just got to hope one of them want to come here

yeah, I believe we can, just got to hope one of them want to come here
- jimbro83

sounds like a looong shot...!

sounds like a looong shot...!
- 21peter

I got a (frank)ing looooong shot for ya

I got a (frank)ing looooong shot for ya
- jimbro83

nah, I believe this is closer to the truth - for your brother too

Big wins by Chicago and Colorado last night.

Big wins by Chicago and Colorado last night.
- tomburton99

I think the Hawks will make the playoffs, which might be the worst outcome for them

Everyone needs to calm down. This team can not afford to do a retool and rush this rebuild thing. It’s going to be 5 years until we have the correct system in place like it or not. We hope that these draft picks work out and we obtain some prospects along the way. When the time comes to offer a big contract to an elite player then all hands on deck. You cannot keep guys like Hayes and Zucc on speculation you won’t get good picks back. You can draft someone late and end up with a superstar. Please be patient and trust Gorton will do the right thing.

which means you actually believe we can sign one of the top UFA's for a 5 max year deal with a max 10M per. this is your opinion?
- 21peter

GMs need to stop being pussies and offer sheet already. It’s part of the business. If elite talent stares you in the face, be ruthless and take it

I got a (frank)ing looooong shot for ya
- jimbro83

My only thing is Point worth losing potentially 4 top 10 draft picks? I see the Rangers drafting high the next couple of years. Not sure if one player is worth that when we are in a rebuild mode

My only thing is Point worth losing potentially 4 top 10 draft picks? I see the Rangers drafting high the next couple of years. Not sure if one player is worth that when we are in a rebuild mode
- TPC

I'm not sure that with Point, the Rangers would pick in the top 10. I already said I'm against an offer sheet given our current situation, but Point as your 1C and Zib as your 2C is about as good a 1-2 punch that would be in the league other than Pitt and Toronto. Then, it's really only the defense making the team mediocre.

I'm not sure that with Point, the Rangers would pick in the top 10. I already said I'm against an offer sheet given our current situation, but Point as your 1C and Zib as your 2C is about as good a 1-2 punch that would be in the league other than Pitt and Toronto. Then, it's really only the defense making the team mediocre.
- 2sticks1puck

I like Point. He's a good player. But I think he's great because he's on team with likes of Stamkos, Kucherov and Hedman. Brayden Point isn't worth 4 first picks. This team cannot afford to do anything like that right now.

I like Point. He's a good player. But I think he's great because he's on team with likes of Stamkos, Kucherov and Hedman. Brayden Point isn't worth 4 first picks. This team cannot afford to do anything like that right now.
- tomburton99

Wow we agree

I'm not sure that with Point, the Rangers would pick in the top 10. I already said I'm against an offer sheet given our current situation, but Point as your 1C and Zib as your 2C is about as good a 1-2 punch that would be in the league other than Pitt and Toronto. Then, it's really only the defense making the team mediocre.
- 2sticks1puck

Defense needs to be overhauled entirely. Top 3 worst in the league

I like Point. He's a good player. But I think he's great because he's on team with likes of Stamkos, Kucherov and Hedman. Brayden Point isn't worth 4 first picks. This team cannot afford to do anything like that right now.
- tomburton99

I'm totally with you that we can't afford to lose another 4 1st round picks. In a couple years, maybe I would be more on Jimbo's side after we replenished our system. To Jimbo's point though, out of the 4 1st's we traded away, only Anthony Beauvillier is the one that is really biting us, though the Red Wings D that they picked in our spot in 2016 looks pretty solid. Of course there is no guarantee that we would have picked any of those guys, but at least I can pretend that we dodged Ho-Sang.

I'm totally with you that we can't afford to lose another 4 1st round picks. In a couple years, maybe I would be more on Jimbo's side after we replenished our system. To Jimbo's point though, out of the 4 1st's we traded away, only Anthony Beauvillier is the one that is really biting us, though the Red Wings D that they picked in our spot in 2016 looks pretty solid. Of course there is no guarantee that we would have picked any of those guys, but at least I can pretend that we dodged Ho-Sang.
- 2sticks1puck

Once the Rangers can clear roughly 16 million in cap space by letting Staal, Shattenkirk and Smith walk, I'd be totally on board with throwing money and both RFAs and UFAs. Not now though.

Once the Rangers can clear roughly 16 million in cap space by letting Staal, Shattenkirk and Smith walk, I'd be totally on board with throwing money and both RFAs and UFAs. Not now though.
- tomburton99

Welcome to the don't do anything until 20-21 offseason train. I'm certain somehow we will screw this up. All they have to do is do nothing until then and not only will all kinds of cap space be cleared, our prospects will either be in the bigs already, or coming up then. We could literally build a Tampa.

I like Point. He's a good player. But I think he's great because he's on team with likes of Stamkos, Kucherov and Hedman. Brayden Point isn't worth 4 first picks. This team cannot afford to do anything like that right now.
- tomburton99

not the 4 first round pick offer sheet

the two first round picks, 2nd and a 3rd offer sheet

I like Point. He's a good player. But I think he's great because he's on team with likes of Stamkos, Kucherov and Hedman. Brayden Point isn't worth 4 first picks. This team cannot afford to do anything like that right now.
- tomburton99

I have to admit I love Point. He does benefit from having Stamkos and the others on the top line, taking pressure off him in the second line. But he is an excellent talent in his own right.

I have to admit I love Point. He does benefit from having Stamkos and the others on the top line, taking pressure off him in the second line. But he is an excellent talent in his own right.
- airjan23

he's 22 years old and has 35 goals in 59 games, I mean come on