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xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 19 @ 1:54 PM ET
Simmonds isnt on a steep decline. This is exactly what was said about Giroux 2-3 years ago. He is coming off a season where he was completely destroyed by injuries. Like with what happened with Giroux it takes time to re-adjust. Body might be healed but you are still not the same immediately. It took Giroux a full season after surgery to get his game back.

Simmonds needs to be moved simply because his skill set isnt worth what he will get. He will still be a 60 point player and part of the reasons for his struggles have been because of the flyer pp. He has had chances but been snake bitten, he is also not frequently on the flyers pp.

Simmonds and JVR share the same role on the pp. Stay in front and tip or jam in rebounds. Sometimes both are on pp but that doesnt do pp any good. Change of scenery will get him going again. Fact is he is 3rd on the depth chart in philly. We are not going to give him 6+ mill for 6 years to play on our 3rd line.

That being said, he will still be a good piece for a contender. GMs know this which is why teams are interested.
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Feb 19 @ 2:06 PM ET
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Feb 19 @ 2:08 PM ET
Ek- which players are the COilers buying? Hopefully they find players that like to float and half ass it- but get paid 4-9 million per... Those are the best...
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 19 @ 2:08 PM ET
Simmonds isnt on a steep decline. This is exactly what was said about Giroux 2-3 years ago. He is coming off a season where he was completely destroyed by injuries. Like with what happened with Giroux it takes time to re-adjust. Body might be healed but you are still not the same immediately. It took Giroux a full season after surgery to get his game back.

Simmonds needs to be moved simply because his skill set isnt worth what he will get. He will still be a 60 point player and part of the reasons for his struggles have been because of the flyer pp. He has had chances but been snake bitten, he is also not frequently on the flyers pp.

Simmonds and JVR share the same role on the pp. Stay in front and tip or jam in rebounds. Sometimes both are on pp but that doesnt do pp any good. Change of scenery will get him going again. Fact is he is 3rd on the depth chart in philly. We are not going to give him 6+ mill for 6 years to play on our 3rd line.

That being said, he will still be a good piece for a contender. GMs know this which is why teams are interested.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Still? He hasn't been one in years now.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 19 @ 2:11 PM ET
Still? He hasn't been one in years now.
- Feds91Stammer


Hes hit 60 twice in his career... and both times was 60 right on, not a point more
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Feb 19 @ 2:13 PM ET
Simmonds isnt on a steep decline. This is exactly what was said about Giroux 2-3 years ago. He is coming off a season where he was completely destroyed by injuries. Like with what happened with Giroux it takes time to re-adjust. Body might be healed but you are still not the same immediately. It took Giroux a full season after surgery to get his game back.

Simmonds needs to be moved simply because his skill set isnt worth what he will get. He will still be a 60 point player and part of the reasons for his struggles have been because of the flyer pp. He has had chances but been snake bitten, he is also not frequently on the flyers pp.

Simmonds and JVR share the same role on the pp. Stay in front and tip or jam in rebounds. Sometimes both are on pp but that doesnt do pp any good. Change of scenery will get him going again. Fact is he is 3rd on the depth chart in philly. We are not going to give him 6+ mill for 6 years to play on our 3rd line.

That being said, he will still be a good piece for a contender. GMs know this which is why teams are interested.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Steep decline would be false, I agree. That being said, he is starting to decline and power forwards don't tend to age very well. If he can only be third line in philly with some of the offensive challenges earlier in the year, where would he fit in on a contending team? He's also scored exactly one goal in 12 games, which isn't helping his trade value. I'm sure someone will throw a decent prospect for him, but I just don't see teams tripping over themselves for him.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 19 @ 2:13 PM ET
Hes hit 60 twice in his career... and both times was 60 right on, not a point more
- obie

"He is totally still a great player and this season is definitely not one of the worst in his career. He will still be good but we don't want to sign him cause he isn't that good anymore but no really he is still good and you should trade us valuable assets for him."
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Feb 19 @ 2:14 PM ET
Hes hit 60 twice in his career... and both times was 60 right on, not a point more
- obie


I'm not even sure he sniffs 50 again. If you look at his stat line, it looks like a perfect bell curve and the peak was a couple seasons ago
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Feb 19 @ 2:15 PM ET
Your own speculations? Or are they coming from anywhere else?
- obie

The Fourth period I believe have mentioned it.

But most people think Quick is gone at the draft of anything.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 19 @ 2:17 PM ET
The Fourth period I believe have mentioned it.

But most people think Quick is gone at the draft of anything.

- KINGS67

Is it because of his contract and his poor play?
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Feb 19 @ 2:18 PM ET
Your own speculations? Or are they coming from anywhere else?
- obie

I thought it was TFP guess it was Hoven.
As first reported by John Hoven of Mayor's Manor (ranked the best sports blog in Los Angeles by LA Weekly and named Hockey Blog of the Year by Yahoo Sports), the Blue Jackets have been in preliminary discussions about acquiring Jonathan Quick of the Los Angeles Kings

https://www.google.com/am...bobrovsky-is-traded%3famp
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Feb 19 @ 2:20 PM ET
Is it because of his contract and his poor play?
- Feds91Stammer

Honestly, i believe they feel the direction of the team needs to get younger. They have Cal Petersen ready to take over and has looked good in the games he’s played so far.

Contract might have a little something to do with it, but not much IMO. There’s other ways to get rid of contract. I would prefer to keep quick but if petersen is truly ready I’m ok with that too
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 19 @ 2:22 PM ET
Honestly, i believe they feel the direction of the team needs to get younger. They have Cal Petersson ready to take over and has looked good in the games he’s played so far.
- KINGS67

I can relate.

Just seems that looking at things objectively, moving Quick could be difficult.
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Feb 19 @ 2:23 PM ET
I can relate.

Just seems that looking at things objectively, moving Quick could be difficult.

- Feds91Stammer

It probably will be but I think a few teams would be in on quick if he’s available. Columbus definitely being one of them. Maybe even buffalo. Idk
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 19 @ 2:29 PM ET
I can relate.

Just seems that looking at things objectively, moving Quick could be difficult.

- Feds91Stammer


No market for goalies
RogueOne
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.25.2018

Feb 19 @ 2:41 PM ET
Simmond’s is a good add for a playoff stretch, he’s looked good of late. Beyond this season I agree he’s just another Lucic contract, but less mean and less tough but more skilled along the boards and in front of the net.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 19 @ 2:42 PM ET
Simmond’s is a good add for a playoff stretch, he’s looked good of late. Beyond this season I agree he’s just another Lucic contract, but less mean and less tough but more skilled along the boards and in front of the net.
- RogueOne

Yeah especially considering the 0 goals in his last 12 playoff games. Could be a huge impact player.
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Feb 19 @ 2:48 PM ET
Its almost like 22 is less than all the numbers you listed.
- Feds91Stammer


The comment was based on Simmonds was on a "steep decline"... 24 to 22 is not "steep decline". Not to mention his spot on the PP was given to JVR, and his overall ice time has diminished. And, if you're looking for reasons to trade for him... Besides scoring. He stepped up fought Mantha (giving up 3" and 40 lbs), and held his own. Any team looking for grit, but don't want to throw away a roster spot should be interested in Simmonds. Frankly, the Flyers don't have anyone else that can fight. Although today's NHL teams don't need a "goon", they do need someone to step up and fight every now and then.
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Feb 19 @ 2:51 PM ET
Yeah especially considering the 0 goals in his last 12 playoff games. Could be a huge impact player.
- Feds91Stammer


The Flyers sucked in the last two post seasons (the whole team sucked, not just him). The previous post season, Simmond had 4 goal in 7 games.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 19 @ 2:58 PM ET
The comment was based on Simmonds was on a "steep decline"... 24 to 22 is not "steep decline". Not to mention his spot on the PP was given to JVR, and his overall ice time has diminished. And, if you're looking for reasons to trade for him... Besides scoring. He stepped up fought Mantha (giving up 3" and 40 lbs), and held his own. Any team looking for grit, but don't want to throw away a roster spot should be interested in Simmonds. Frankly, the Flyers don't have anyone else that can fight. Although today's NHL teams don't need a "goon", they do need someone to step up and fight every now and then.
- leon neon

Oh wow he fought big bad non fighter Mantha. Scary.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 19 @ 2:59 PM ET
The Flyers sucked in the last two post seasons (the whole team sucked, not just him). The previous post season, Simmond had 4 goal in 7 games.
- leon neon

So 4 in 19. YUGE production.
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Feb 19 @ 3:26 PM ET
Bobby Ryan?
- 2sticks1puck

gtfo

Bobby Ryan is having a solid year (not just numbers). He's overpaid but still an effective player at times
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 19 @ 3:32 PM ET
gtfo

Bobby Ryan is having a solid year (not just numbers). He's overpaid but still an effective player at times

- AlfieisKing

Too bad you are never an effective HockeyBuzz poster.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 19 @ 3:34 PM ET
gtfo

Bobby Ryan is having a solid year (not just numbers). He's overpaid but still an effective player at times

- AlfieisKing


Yea he'd be a great addition to any team's 4th line
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Feb 19 @ 3:38 PM ET
So 4 in 19. YUGE production.
- Feds91Stammer


Or, you could look at the total goals scored 37 in those 19 games. Those 4 goals were 11% of the entire team production. Yes, YUGE.

Or, if you want to look at just his zero goals in the last 12 playoff games... Giroux is the Flyers top players, no? Giroux only had one goal - he must be in decline too. Let's not forget to mention that Simmonds had 4 assists in the last 12 playoff games. The team only scored a total of 21 goals. These 4 assists means that he was participated in 19% of the team production. Yes, YUGE.

If you're going to rip on Simmonds, at least rip on him correctly. His goal scoring is not something you should be ripping him for... To put some perspective on this, If you put Simmonds into the Wings roster, he would rank 3rd highest goal scorer. Simmonds is not on our top line, nor does he get top PP minutes. And, you shouldn't rip on his willingness to step up and defend teammates. If you're going to rip on him, point out that +/- sucks - he has been a defensive liability.
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