xShoot4WarAmpsx
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 06.25.2010
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Simmonds isnt on a steep decline. This is exactly what was said about Giroux 2-3 years ago. He is coming off a season where he was completely destroyed by injuries. Like with what happened with Giroux it takes time to re-adjust. Body might be healed but you are still not the same immediately. It took Giroux a full season after surgery to get his game back.
Simmonds needs to be moved simply because his skill set isnt worth what he will get. He will still be a 60 point player and part of the reasons for his struggles have been because of the flyer pp. He has had chances but been snake bitten, he is also not frequently on the flyers pp.
Simmonds and JVR share the same role on the pp. Stay in front and tip or jam in rebounds. Sometimes both are on pp but that doesnt do pp any good. Change of scenery will get him going again. Fact is he is 3rd on the depth chart in philly. We are not going to give him 6+ mill for 6 years to play on our 3rd line.
That being said, he will still be a good piece for a contender. GMs know this which is why teams are interested. |
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RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN Joined: 04.16.2016
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Ek- which players are the COilers buying? Hopefully they find players that like to float and half ass it- but get paid 4-9 million per... Those are the best... |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Simmonds isnt on a steep decline. This is exactly what was said about Giroux 2-3 years ago. He is coming off a season where he was completely destroyed by injuries. Like with what happened with Giroux it takes time to re-adjust. Body might be healed but you are still not the same immediately. It took Giroux a full season after surgery to get his game back.
Simmonds needs to be moved simply because his skill set isnt worth what he will get. He will still be a 60 point player and part of the reasons for his struggles have been because of the flyer pp. He has had chances but been snake bitten, he is also not frequently on the flyers pp.
Simmonds and JVR share the same role on the pp. Stay in front and tip or jam in rebounds. Sometimes both are on pp but that doesnt do pp any good. Change of scenery will get him going again. Fact is he is 3rd on the depth chart in philly. We are not going to give him 6+ mill for 6 years to play on our 3rd line.
That being said, he will still be a good piece for a contender. GMs know this which is why teams are interested. - xShoot4WarAmpsx
Still? He hasn't been one in years now. |
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obie
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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Still? He hasn't been one in years now. - Feds91Stammer
Hes hit 60 twice in his career... and both times was 60 right on, not a point more |
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2sticks1puck
New York Rangers |
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Location: The not quite neutral zone Joined: 01.31.2019
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Simmonds isnt on a steep decline. This is exactly what was said about Giroux 2-3 years ago. He is coming off a season where he was completely destroyed by injuries. Like with what happened with Giroux it takes time to re-adjust. Body might be healed but you are still not the same immediately. It took Giroux a full season after surgery to get his game back.
Simmonds needs to be moved simply because his skill set isnt worth what he will get. He will still be a 60 point player and part of the reasons for his struggles have been because of the flyer pp. He has had chances but been snake bitten, he is also not frequently on the flyers pp.
Simmonds and JVR share the same role on the pp. Stay in front and tip or jam in rebounds. Sometimes both are on pp but that doesnt do pp any good. Change of scenery will get him going again. Fact is he is 3rd on the depth chart in philly. We are not going to give him 6+ mill for 6 years to play on our 3rd line.
That being said, he will still be a good piece for a contender. GMs know this which is why teams are interested. - xShoot4WarAmpsx
Steep decline would be false, I agree. That being said, he is starting to decline and power forwards don't tend to age very well. If he can only be third line in philly with some of the offensive challenges earlier in the year, where would he fit in on a contending team? He's also scored exactly one goal in 12 games, which isn't helping his trade value. I'm sure someone will throw a decent prospect for him, but I just don't see teams tripping over themselves for him.
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Hes hit 60 twice in his career... and both times was 60 right on, not a point more - obie
"He is totally still a great player and this season is definitely not one of the worst in his career. He will still be good but we don't want to sign him cause he isn't that good anymore but no really he is still good and you should trade us valuable assets for him." |
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2sticks1puck
New York Rangers |
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Location: The not quite neutral zone Joined: 01.31.2019
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Hes hit 60 twice in his career... and both times was 60 right on, not a point more - obie
I'm not even sure he sniffs 50 again. If you look at his stat line, it looks like a perfect bell curve and the peak was a couple seasons ago
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KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA Joined: 01.29.2010
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Your own speculations? Or are they coming from anywhere else? - obie
The Fourth period I believe have mentioned it.
But most people think Quick is gone at the draft of anything. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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The Fourth period I believe have mentioned it.
But most people think Quick is gone at the draft of anything. - KINGS67
Is it because of his contract and his poor play? |
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KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA Joined: 01.29.2010
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Your own speculations? Or are they coming from anywhere else? - obie
I thought it was TFP guess it was Hoven.
As first reported by John Hoven of Mayor's Manor (ranked the best sports blog in Los Angeles by LA Weekly and named Hockey Blog of the Year by Yahoo Sports), the Blue Jackets have been in preliminary discussions about acquiring Jonathan Quick of the Los Angeles Kings
https://www.google.com/am...bobrovsky-is-traded%3famp |
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KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA Joined: 01.29.2010
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Is it because of his contract and his poor play? - Feds91Stammer
Honestly, i believe they feel the direction of the team needs to get younger. They have Cal Petersen ready to take over and has looked good in the games he’s played so far.
Contract might have a little something to do with it, but not much IMO. There’s other ways to get rid of contract. I would prefer to keep quick but if petersen is truly ready I’m ok with that too |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Honestly, i believe they feel the direction of the team needs to get younger. They have Cal Petersson ready to take over and has looked good in the games he’s played so far. - KINGS67
I can relate.
Just seems that looking at things objectively, moving Quick could be difficult. |
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KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA Joined: 01.29.2010
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I can relate.
Just seems that looking at things objectively, moving Quick could be difficult. - Feds91Stammer
It probably will be but I think a few teams would be in on quick if he’s available. Columbus definitely being one of them. Maybe even buffalo. Idk |
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obie
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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I can relate.
Just seems that looking at things objectively, moving Quick could be difficult. - Feds91Stammer
No market for goalies |
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RogueOne
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 10.25.2018
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Simmond’s is a good add for a playoff stretch, he’s looked good of late. Beyond this season I agree he’s just another Lucic contract, but less mean and less tough but more skilled along the boards and in front of the net. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Simmond’s is a good add for a playoff stretch, he’s looked good of late. Beyond this season I agree he’s just another Lucic contract, but less mean and less tough but more skilled along the boards and in front of the net. - RogueOne
Yeah especially considering the 0 goals in his last 12 playoff games. Could be a huge impact player. |
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leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: GA Joined: 02.16.2009
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Its almost like 22 is less than all the numbers you listed. - Feds91Stammer
The comment was based on Simmonds was on a "steep decline"... 24 to 22 is not "steep decline". Not to mention his spot on the PP was given to JVR, and his overall ice time has diminished. And, if you're looking for reasons to trade for him... Besides scoring. He stepped up fought Mantha (giving up 3" and 40 lbs), and held his own. Any team looking for grit, but don't want to throw away a roster spot should be interested in Simmonds. Frankly, the Flyers don't have anyone else that can fight. Although today's NHL teams don't need a "goon", they do need someone to step up and fight every now and then. |
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leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: GA Joined: 02.16.2009
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Yeah especially considering the 0 goals in his last 12 playoff games. Could be a huge impact player. - Feds91Stammer
The Flyers sucked in the last two post seasons (the whole team sucked, not just him). The previous post season, Simmond had 4 goal in 7 games. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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The comment was based on Simmonds was on a "steep decline"... 24 to 22 is not "steep decline". Not to mention his spot on the PP was given to JVR, and his overall ice time has diminished. And, if you're looking for reasons to trade for him... Besides scoring. He stepped up fought Mantha (giving up 3" and 40 lbs), and held his own. Any team looking for grit, but don't want to throw away a roster spot should be interested in Simmonds. Frankly, the Flyers don't have anyone else that can fight. Although today's NHL teams don't need a "goon", they do need someone to step up and fight every now and then. - leon neon
Oh wow he fought big bad non fighter Mantha. Scary. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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The Flyers sucked in the last two post seasons (the whole team sucked, not just him). The previous post season, Simmond had 4 goal in 7 games. - leon neon
So 4 in 19. YUGE production. |
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AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Canada, ON Joined: 11.05.2007
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Bobby Ryan? - 2sticks1puck
gtfo
Bobby Ryan is having a solid year (not just numbers). He's overpaid but still an effective player at times |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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gtfo
Bobby Ryan is having a solid year (not just numbers). He's overpaid but still an effective player at times - AlfieisKing
Too bad you are never an effective HockeyBuzz poster. |
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obie
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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gtfo
Bobby Ryan is having a solid year (not just numbers). He's overpaid but still an effective player at times - AlfieisKing
Yea he'd be a great addition to any team's 4th line |
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leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: GA Joined: 02.16.2009
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So 4 in 19. YUGE production. - Feds91Stammer
Or, you could look at the total goals scored 37 in those 19 games. Those 4 goals were 11% of the entire team production. Yes, YUGE.
Or, if you want to look at just his zero goals in the last 12 playoff games... Giroux is the Flyers top players, no? Giroux only had one goal - he must be in decline too. Let's not forget to mention that Simmonds had 4 assists in the last 12 playoff games. The team only scored a total of 21 goals. These 4 assists means that he was participated in 19% of the team production. Yes, YUGE.
If you're going to rip on Simmonds, at least rip on him correctly. His goal scoring is not something you should be ripping him for... To put some perspective on this, If you put Simmonds into the Wings roster, he would rank 3rd highest goal scorer. Simmonds is not on our top line, nor does he get top PP minutes. And, you shouldn't rip on his willingness to step up and defend teammates. If you're going to rip on him, point out that +/- sucks - he has been a defensive liability. |
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