4 points behind the high powered Leafs
- obie

Peanut is a Habs fan

All’s quiet on the Karine front..

All’s quiet on the Karine front..
- pete26

just waiting to know if it's a boy or a girl

I need a James Tanner post so I can post this

just waiting to know if it's a boy or a girl
- fidopro

Danault cant play cuz his wife’s gonna have a baby??

Our first born, I played hockey that night, got drunk, and mrs26 drove us to the hospital at 4 in the morning.

Wtf is wrong with this world fido??

Danault cant play cuz his wife’s gonna have a baby??

Our first born, I played hockey that night, got drunk, and mrs26 drove us to the hospital at 4 in the morning.

Wtf is wrong with this world fido??
- pete26

why didn't you stay in bed?!?

why didn't you stay in bed?!?
- fidopro

I wanted to, she insisted I be there for the first one, took her 15 minutes to wake me up, I passed out on the couch.

I wanted to, she insisted I be there for the first one, took her 15 minutes to wake me up, I passed out on the couch.
- pete26

how long ago was that?

how long ago was that?
- fidopro

He’ll be 25 in November.

He’ll be 25 in November.
- pete26

and you're still together, you must be doing something good!
congrats

and you're still together, you must be doing something good!
congrats
- fidopro

Spoiled her for 25 plus years

Didn’t even get my way that night..

Gotta get that puck deep on every shift.

No lollygaging in the neutral,zone.
- pete26

agreed NO LOLLYGAGGING DAMMIT

Danault cant play cuz his wife’s gonna have a baby??

Our first born, I played hockey that night, got drunk, and mrs26 drove us to the hospital at 4 in the morning.

Wtf is wrong with this world fido??
- pete26

In fairness, give or take 30 seconds, your job was done 9 months earlier. MrsPete26 was the real hero in the whole thing.

In fairness, give or take 30 seconds, your job was done 9 months earlier. MrsPete26 was the real hero in the whole thing.
- Mashadar

Thats enough of you

Thats enough of you
- Pie

Yeah, we will see.

Yeah, we will see.
- Mashadar

In fairness, give or take 30 seconds, your job was done 9 months earlier. MrsPete26 was the real hero in the whole thing.
- Mashadar

Was no hero that night Mash.

Nope..

Ding Dong!!

Karine’s in the house.

Not for a buyout, if he retires...

Because that was a clause in the trade... if Weber retires the contract goes back to Nashville

And they do get a cap hit for a buyout but it's based on actual money owed, not cap hit... so it would be less than a million a year after 3 more seasons
- obie

If Weber retires, recapture goes back to Nashville because they benefited from the front-loaded nature of the contract. It has nothing to do with a clause in the trade. That's how recapture works. If it's the player's choice to end his career before the end of the contract, the team that he currently plays for shouldn't have to shoulder the burden for a benefit they didn't receive. Therefore, the recapture penalty is charged to each team he played for. It is calculated by summing the total salary paid to the player and summing the the total cap hit charged to that team. The difference is then divided over the number of years remaining in the contract and charged as a recapture penalty.

As we all know, Weber played the first four years of his contract in Nashville. During that time, he earned $56 million in salary and bonuses, but Nashville was only charged $31.4 million in cap hit, meaning they received a net cap benefit of $24.6 million. If Weber chooses to retire before the contract ends, Nashville gets that amount divided among the remaining years of the contract as a recapture penalty. Here's what the cap recapture penalty would be to Nashville if he retired after each of the following seasons:

2021-22: $6.15M for 4 seasons
2022-23: $8.2M for 3 seasons
2023-24: $12.3M for 2 seasons
2024-25: $24.6M for 1 season

Yikes.

Montreal would get hit with a very small recapture penalty if Weber retired in 2022 since they would have paid him $48M in salary, but only charged $47.142M in cap. It would hit them with a $214.5K penalty for each of the final 4 years on his contract. If he retires in 2023 or later, Montreal wouldn't receive any penalties as they would have paid him less than the cap hit charged to their franchise.

If Weber has any hard feelings towards Nashville for trading him, he could really (frank) them over by choosing to retire after the 2024-25 season.

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For buyouts, since the team is making the decision and not the player, that player's former team isn't charged a penalty.

Let's say he's bought out in 2023, he'll be owed only $3M more dollars, 2/3 of that over 6 years would be $333K per season. That's his base buyout cap hit.

However, his actual cap hit for years 1-3 of the buyout is still $7.85M, meaning the team has to pay recapture. Per the CBA, you subtract the buyout savings each season from the original AAV. Since Weber's salary is $1M per season, and his base buyout cap hit is $333K, his "buyout savings" are $667K per season for each of the three remaining seasons on his contract when it was bought out. Subtract that amount from his cap hit and you get his cap hit for the first three buyout years.

Years 1-3: $7.85M - $667K = $7.183M cap hit
Years 4-6: $333K (base cap hit)

Weber's contract is pretty much buyout proof.

If Weber retires, recapture goes back to Nashville because they benefited from the front-loaded nature of the contract. It has nothing to do with a clause in the trade. That's how recapture works. If it's the player's choice to end his career before the end of the contract, the team that he currently plays for shouldn't have to shoulder the burden for a benefit they didn't receive. Therefore, the recapture penalty is charged to each team he played for. It is calculated by summing the total salary paid to the player and summing the the total cap hit charged to that team. The difference is then divided over the number of years remaining in the contract and charged as a recapture penalty.

As we all know, Weber played the first four years of his contract in Nashville. During that time, he earned $56 million in salary and bonuses, but Nashville was only charged $31.4 million in cap hit, meaning they received a net cap benefit of $24.6 million. If Weber chooses to retire before the contract ends, Nashville gets that amount divided among the remaining years of the contract as a recapture penalty. Here's what the cap recapture penalty would be to Nashville if he retired after each of the following seasons:

2021-22: $6.15M for 4 seasons
2022-23: $8.2M for 3 seasons
2023-24: $12.3M for 2 seasons
2024-25: $24.6M for 1 season

Yikes.

Montreal would get hit with a very small recapture penalty if Weber retired in 2022 since they would have paid him $48M in salary, but only charged $47.142M in cap. It would hit them with a $214.5K penalty for each of the final 4 years on his contract. If he retires in 2023 or later, Montreal wouldn't receive any penalties as they would have paid him less than the cap hit charged to their franchise.

If Weber has any hard feelings towards Nashville for trading him, he could really (frank) them over by choosing to retire after the 2024-25 season.

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For buyouts, since the team is making the decision and not the player, that player's former team isn't charged a penalty.

Let's say he's bought out in 2023, he'll be owed only $3M more dollars, 2/3 of that over 6 years would be $333K per season. That's his base buyout cap hit.

However, his actual cap hit for years 1-3 of the buyout is still $7.85M, meaning the team has to pay recapture. Per the CBA, you subtract the buyout savings each season from the original AAV. Since Weber's salary is $1M per season, and his base buyout cap hit is $333K, his "buyout savings" are $667K per season for each of the three remaining seasons on his contract when it was bought out. Subtract that amount from his cap hit and you get his cap hit for the first three buyout years.

Years 1-3: $7.85M - $667K = $7.183M cap hit
Years 4-6: $333K (base cap hit)

Weber's contract is pretty much buyout proof.
- tkecanuck341

yes and no

Only one scenario can make that happen for me.

The gotta make the po's.
- pete26

they will.


I'll pretend I'm busy