Move along nothing to see here.
- SABRES 89

How about the carolina rejects being told to fire their wr coach, despite what he did to Foster in the second half of the year

foster had over 500 yards in the last 7 games

neither was #16

Patty gave them 5 or 6 solid ideas within a week to build a hockey foundation and pipeline, Pegula's shot them all down and told him he had no clue how to run a business.

Patty said screw this
- homiedclown

Wasn't one of his ideas to not tear it down and rebuild and to keep Miller?

750K too much.
- Pegullaville

then he becomes briere/drury part II

750K too much.
- Pegullaville

If the deal is 5 years, that makes it more palatable.

Tough call. I'm not sure I would if the deal is 7-8 years long.
- kingcong39

How old is Skinner?

How old is Skinner?
- rapperray

Turns 27 in May.

Turns 27 in May.
- kingcong39

Yeah 8 years would be a tad too long

Wasn't one of his ideas to not tear it down and rebuild and to keep Miller?
- kingcong39

scouting, scouting and more scouting


he did want to keep Miller because he felt with an above average goalie, you could hide some flaws


he had a lot of the same vision botts has

build the ahl, heavy scouting for free agents overseas

lots of community outreach thoughts

pegula told us money was no object so patty threw lots of good thoughts to turn this around and make it stable long term


but was told he had no clue how to run a business

Wasn't one of his ideas to not tear it down and rebuild and to keep Miller?
- kingcong39

You know... who knows what his ideas really were but let's face it... Whatever it is they are doing now is definitely not working.... This team is a trainwreck with a couple of nice parts... Nothing more...

make that a 50 cent prostitute.... 0 resolve, they are weak

8.75

- homiedclown

I know you hate this comparison but I will post this again.
E. Kane signed for 7 for 7.
2 totally different players but are they? The stats are the same.
Kane does PK work and is tougher on the ice.
Skinner is a better teammate, person and fits into an offensive scheme.

https://www.nhl.com/player/evander-kane-8475169
https://www.nhl.com/player/jeff-skinner-8475784

I don't see giving Skin an extra 1.75 because of intrinsic value or because the Sabres are desperate. Desperate moves make bad decisions and I hope Botts doesn't cave. 8 should be the max. Buffalo needs the space to sign additional mediocre players.

You know... who knows what his ideas really were but let's face it... Whatever it is they are doing now is definitely not working.... This team is a trainwreck with a couple of nice parts... Nothing more...
- rapperray

what botts is doing now, is sound
clean slate after next year aside from okposo

he did not want ror, moved him

he wants to build stable farm clubs, has done that

problem is murray screwed this team over so bad, it took botts 3 years to clean up the mess


if he stands pat with phil, I will be pissed but if he moves on from housley I honestly think we will be fine, after the next lockout

The other reality is paying big dollars to only the best, like Eichel, and having cap flexibility with the rest, which means not locking a ton of players up to long term deals.
- kingcong39

The above thinking is exactly why we will win NOTHING. I would rather spend to the cap for proven talent and have a 3 year window for a cup then to live in mediocrity another year.

let me ask you this, would you trade 1 cup winning season for 5-7 years of Cap hell?

I know you hate this comparison but I will post this again.
E. Kane signed for 7 for 7.
2 totally different players but are they? The stats are the same.
Kane does PK work and is tougher on the ice.
Skinner is a better teammate, person and fits into an offensive scheme.

https://www.nhl.com/player/evander-kane-8475169
https://www.nhl.com/player/jeff-skinner-8475784

I don't see giving Skin an extra 1.75 because of intrinsic value or because the Sabres are desperate. Desperate moves make bad decisions and I hope Botts doesn't cave. 8 should be the max. Buffalo needs the space to sign additional mediocre players.
- Tragically Buffalo

I am just telling you where the bar is right now, I don't like it
We will have closure in a week, if the skinner camp does not sign an 8 year deal after the deadline expect botts to cave and overpay to keep him

Yeah 8 years would be a tad too long
- rapperray

Ideally 5 but he's going to get 7 on the open market.

The above thinking is exactly why we will win NOTHING. I would rather spend to the cap for proven talent and have a 3 year window for a cup then to live in mediocrity another year.

let me ask you this, would you trade 1 cup winning season for 5-7 years of Cap hell?
- hehateme

we spent to the cap this year

Ideally 5 but he's going to get 7 on the open market.
- dadeadhead

yup

I am just telling you where the bar is right now, I don't like it
We will have closure in a week, if the skinner camp does not sign an 8 year deal after the deadline expect botts to cave and overpay to keep him
- homiedclown

And Skinner's camp knows it.......

we spent to the cap this year


- homiedclown

i meant on good players.....

Skinner
Duchene
panarin

8.75

- homiedclown

I wouldn't do anything over 8, especially a long one, hes not super young

i meant on good players.....

Skinner
Duchene
panarin
- hehateme

Panarin doesn't want to play here.

Panarin doesn't want to play here.
- Powerslave

how do you know that?

Panarin doesn't want to play here.
- Powerslave

after last night who would?

after last night who would?
- SabresFaninIndiana

Good point.

how do you know that?
- hehateme

he has been quoted saying he wants to play in a major city market.. he dislikes columbus because it is a small city..