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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Feb 20 @ 4:31 PM ET
What was the line I read on here about someone else (not you, Elbows)? $10 dollar body, 5 cent head?
- mohel

Can't be for me. Its the other way around for me.
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Feb 20 @ 4:31 PM ET
You have Toews/Strome as your 1-2 center, the Hawks need a top 6 winger (left or right), I don't think Duchene is a fit here. Yes Duchene has occasionally played left wing, but why would he sign here if you tell him he is not going to play his natural position/ or third line center (which he would get way too much money. Strome has to play in the top 6, he is not strong enough defensively to be a 3C.
- LAHawk



I think your over playing the term 3c. According to reports Duchene wants out of Ottowa, now why would he not sign here ? You have 2 wold class players a original 6 team a great city , fan base and if the money is right. Also unless Saad is moved which that is unlikely you'd have Duchene centering either Kane or saad . Therefore you have a solid top 9 and he can play lw.

Anismov won't be here come next year , so for Stan to acquire Duchene that fills a hole nicely.


We're not getting panarin .

Duchene 7m
Dzingle 4 to 5m

Anismov gone equals dzingel money
RedRevenge
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 04.18.2017

Feb 20 @ 4:34 PM ET
I think your over playing the term 3c. According to reports Duchene wants out of Ottowa, now why would he not sign here ? You have 2 wold class players a original 6 team a great city , fan base and if the money is right. Also unless Saad is moved which that is unlikely you'd have Duchene centering either Kane or saad . Therefore you have a solid top 9 and he can play lw.

Anismov won't be here come next year , so for Stan to acquire Duchene that fills a hole nicely.


We're not getting panarin .

Duchene 7m
Dzingle 4 to 5m

Anismov gone equals dzingel money

- Taylorst1


This doesn't make sense? Duchene only getting a 1 million payraise?

Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Feb 20 @ 4:35 PM ET
He doesn't know how to use "there", "their" and "they're" also.
- GPHawksfan



Omg it's the spelling police. I can spell IGNORANT which clearly fits you well or how about VACUOUS
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Feb 20 @ 4:36 PM ET
Difference is Binnington is playing lights out in goal. Lets see if that continues in the playoffs.
- LAHawk


Sounds like Delia - teams will get to scout him now.
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Feb 20 @ 4:39 PM ET
This doesn't make sense? Duchene only getting a 1 million payraise?
- RedRevenge




How much do you think he is worth or will get in free agency? He avgs 50 points a season , so to make the case for him to get 9million at 29 years old only avg 50 points is a stretch.

But hey let's see even if he gets 8million that's doable for Chicago allowing them more flexibility in free agency.
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Feb 20 @ 4:39 PM ET
Omg it's the spelling police. I can spell IGNORANT which clearly fits you well or how about VACUOUS
- Taylorst1

Maybe you shouldn't claim to be superior to everyone like you did in one of your white supremacist sounding rants a few months ago and you wouldn't be picked apart.
gabriel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: West Lafayette, IN
Joined: 02.02.2013

Feb 20 @ 4:46 PM ET
He didn't just rip into him, Torts humiliated him talking to the press in Duclair's hometown. Excellent management skills Torts. Apparently Torts forgot his own job title is "coach".
- Rota's Rooter


"I don't give people hell. I tell them the truth, and they think it's hell."

--- Harry Truman, U.S. President
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Feb 20 @ 4:47 PM ET
Can't be for me. Its the other way around for me.
- Elbows15


Yeah, nobody our age has a $10 body. Well, except for Sage.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Feb 20 @ 4:47 PM ET
An 8-7 win continually exposes exactly what is right with this team and what is wrong with this team.. The Hawks are an offensive Juggernaut that has the worst defense in the league.... And it's sad because if this team had a decent defense this team could be a contender.

But hey, Congrats to The Cat on his 4th career hat trick.. So much for the alleged "sophomore slump" eh? the kid is a PPG player and on pace for 45 goals.. What does this kid have to do to be recognized as one of the best young players in the game?.. Not to get off-topic but as a hockey card collector DeBrincat's cards are profoundly undervalued.. Especially his Young Guns... He's still valued as a 2nd round pick when his stats suggest he should have been a top 5 pick.

But hey, Bowman and Co hit another home run in the 2nd round with DeBrincat.. Seems the 2nd round has been very friendly to the Blackhawks... It's almost like the Hawks scouting staff spend a lot of time looking at players they know most teams will pass on due to minor flaws that can usually be fixed then steal them in later rounds.

As for the Trade Deadline and what the Hawks should do:

Bowman should do nothing at the TDL unless he has an opportunity to get a player that will be a part of the future. So with that said, I think Bowman is going to tell the media that Kruger, Kunitz etc are their own rentals - that is my prediction. And that isn't a bad move either considering how little value Kruger, Kunitz etc hold.. I could see Bowman trading them if he's blown away by offers.

Honestly this is a very good position and situation for these Baby Hawks to be in. They can technically make the playoffs, but they're going to have to earn it and this will be an invaluable lesson for these kids so doing nothing is the best move Bowman could make given the Hawks situation.

Now, there is one trade possibility that hasn't even been discussed with Crawford allegedly coming back -- would Bowman consider moving Ward? I know Ward has a NMC, but I think Delia's play has shown he is NHL ready, not only that but his play has earned him a roster spot....So if I were Bowman I would try to move Ward, then rotate Delia and Crawford for the rest of the season... Delia has gotten invaluable experience over these last few months and there is no reason whatsoever to send him back to Rockford when he's clearly learning a ton at the NHL level -- Delia belongs in the NHL... And I don't think Bowman would have a problem moving Ward, he's played pretty well despite the defense playing in front of him. I mean do you think Ward would rather backup Crawford on a bubble playoff team (if you want to call the Hawks that) or play backup on a legitimate playoff team?

It would take Crawford playing like Hasek circa 1998 for the Hawks to stand a chance at making the playoffs or perhaps making a run in the playoffs.. It's not going to happen.

If I were Bowman, I would stand pat - make no moves at all unless a GM calls and offers a 2nd for Kunitz or Kruger....Also, there is a good reason not to move our UFA's - they have experience and that experience tends to rub-off on the youngsters, and that is more valuable than a 4th round pick... Not only that but excluding the Hawks terrible defense this team is starting to form some chemistry...

I mean the reality is that if this team had a better defense - even an average defense this team would be atop of the Western Conference... Yes, I know that seems like a crazy thought but the stats speak otherwise, look into how many games the Hawks have scored 3 goals or more and didn't get a point out of the match - 20 times is the answer and that is totally inexcusable.. If you score 3 goals in a game you SHOULD AT LEAST walk away from the game with a point at the very minimum 80% of the time... When these Hawks score 3 or more goals they only get a point 50% of the time.. This team has actually scored 5,6 and 7 goals in a game a few times and walked away pointless... My point is (no pun intended) that this team is pretty good outside of defense so I see no reason at all to make any trades unless the trade improves the defense now and in the long-term.... Let the kids play, they're finally winning games together, they're getting invaluable NHL experience and are forming (offensive) chemistry..

So yea, if I'm Bowman I'm standing pat unless I get an offer I cant refuse alas Hartman. I would also be trying to move Ward because Delia is the Hawks future in net and he needs to continue playing in the NHL, he needs to continue to be challenged because it will only make him better.. Delia has nothing to learn at the AHL level at this point, as a matter of fact sending him back down to the AHL could really hurt the progress he's made over these last few months... I've seen flashes of brilliance in Delia, so he has the talent to be a very good NHL goalie and I think Delia working with Jimmy Waite has helped him tremendously...

So if I'm Bowman I'm not even thinking about making the playoffs or the remainder of this season - I'm focusing on next season and beyond.. My opinion would be if the Hawks make the playoffs or come close it means they're learning, it means they're making progress.... But I think Bowman knows the actual issue with this team is primarily defense (I think he knew that before the season even started) and he knows he has a plethora of talented eventual top 4 defenseman on the way with massive potential, and all he really needs to do is let the season play-out, then focus on finding short-term solutions on D this summer, that and sign a couple of 3rd/4th line two-way shutdown line forwards and this team will be back to the playoffs next season.... I mean this team has proven overwhelmingly that it can put the puck in the net, but they've also proved they cant keep the put out of the net - and keeping the puck out of the net has to be Stan's top focus moving forward, and if he can get a player that helps in that department until our defensive studs are ready for the NHL then he should make the move..... I mean I would love to see Cam Ward moved for a #4/5 defenseman with 1-2 years left on his contract...

I think Ward has played well enough to attract some contenders or playoff bound teams attention looking for security in goal for a playoff run, or at least a goalie that can allow their #1 to get some rest here and there without having to worry about falling in the standings.

And as far as Darren Raddysh - who cares - if I were Bowman I'd be trying to acquire his brother Taylor from Tampa Bay, another former Erie Otter that played with DeBrincat and Strome (Darren did too) who can both score and setup sweet plays.... I would love to see "The Otter Line": Raddysh-Strome-Debrincat ...Rarely does Junior chemistry translate into the NHL but I think it would be worth a shot making a trade for Taylor considering how Strome has worked out so far.... I mean it's not like Taylor Raddysh has a future in Tampa Bay given how stacked that team is.. I think Bowman could get him for a pick and he could immediately make an impact here in Chicago. So if I were Bowman Taylor Raddysh would absolutely be on my radar, and I've wanted Bowman to acquire Raddysh for a long time now... I have followed the Otters for a while now, and IMO on face value trading for Raddysh would be considered a minor move but a trade like this in the long-run could have the potential to be as important as the Sharp trade was 13-14 years ago. Sharp was another player I wanted the Hawks to acquire way back when during the lockout the Wolves met the Phantoms in the AHL finals, so when the Hawks acquired him Hawks fans though I was nuts for jumping in joy, telling them how Sharp was a steal and that Sharp will be one of the better players on the team.... As a matter of fact I was so excited I even remember the headline after 15 years from the Chicago Tribune" "Hawks Make Sharp Move"..... Well I believe Taylor Raddysh could have the type of impact Sharp had on this team.

- Savard2Secord


Take a breath.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Feb 20 @ 4:50 PM ET
Take a breath.
- boilermaker100

Hey. He did use paragraphs.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Feb 20 @ 4:50 PM ET
This doesn't make sense? Duchene only getting a 1 million payraise?
- RedRevenge

Whatever he gets isn't going to be worth it.
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Feb 20 @ 4:52 PM ET
She was taking a break due to all the negativity last I saw.
- Elbows15


So we're probably seen the last of her then? Hope not - she was very insightful.
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Feb 20 @ 4:54 PM ET
Q's time did run out. No question about that. It happens. 10 years is a long time for a coach to stay in one place.

I think Bowman has earned the right to try to rebuild this team. I like the moves he has made for the most part the last two seasons. His drafts have been heavily slanted to D-men in the early rounds. Booms or bust after that. Which is how the rounds after the 2nd round should be targeted. IMO.

i don't like his FA signings for sure but he has made some pretty solid trades. Kunitz and Ward are at least up after this season. I guess we could debate why they were signed in the first place but they are here for whatever reason.He signed Manning but at least ws able to rectify that mistake

AA still is useful and I think he will moved in the summer. Keith is still their best D-man. Seabrook was a reward for past services. A mistake on the term for sure. However, I firmly believe the past with Old Man Wirtz played a part in that decision. Now we can agree it shouldn't have but I think it did.

- Elbows15


I remember reading this about Theo and Bill Walsh and the 10 year rule. Third PP.


http://www.espn.com/bosto...ight-leave-boston-red-sox
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Feb 20 @ 4:54 PM ET
Elbows, what did you do with LBR?
- mohel


She found a home on the 2nd city hockey blog.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Feb 20 @ 4:55 PM ET
So we're probably seen the last of here then? Hope not - she was very insightful.
- EbonyRaptor


People come and go.

This site is frustrating soemtimes.

Everyone comes back........ except MexicoHawk 🤣🤣🤣🤣 and CanUsa17

Our boy Philco is back around ! See.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Feb 20 @ 4:56 PM ET
She found a home on the 2nd city hockey blog.
- boilermaker100


She's been there for a long time. Suddenly stopped coming here. Who gets "credit" for driving her off.
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Feb 20 @ 4:57 PM ET
Maybe you shouldn't claim to be superior to everyone like you did in one of your white supremacist sounding rants a few months ago and you wouldn't be picked apart.
- GPHawksfan



Dude your just a ignorant , racist person . White supremacist? Their is no place here or in this world for people like you and your racist remarks.

If you don't like my opinions , tough it's a free country the bigger person would just ignore them.

However nobody needs your racist remarks in here or in this world.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Feb 20 @ 4:58 PM ET
I think your over playing the term 3c. According to reports Duchene wants out of Ottowa, now why would he not sign here ? You have 2 wold class players a original 6 team a great city , fan base and if the money is right. Also unless Saad is moved which that is unlikely you'd have Duchene centering either Kane or saad . Therefore you have a solid top 9 and he can play lw.

Anismov won't be here come next year , so for Stan to acquire Duchene that fills a hole nicely.


We're not getting panarin .

Duchene 7m
Dzingle 4 to 5m

Anismov gone equals dzingel money

- Taylorst1


And the defense still sucks and will have to reup Cat, Strome, Kahun the following year.
gabriel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: West Lafayette, IN
Joined: 02.02.2013

Feb 20 @ 4:58 PM ET
We want a team that hits and fights too.
- paulr


We want a team that hits along the boards, and is capable of exhibiting a little sand-paper.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Feb 20 @ 4:59 PM ET
Well, that escalated quickly.....
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Feb 20 @ 5:01 PM ET
We want a team that hits along the boards, and is capable of exhibiting a little sand-paper.
- gabriel


We? Got a mouse in your pocket? I'll go with a team that wins.
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Feb 20 @ 5:04 PM ET
And the defense still sucks and will have to reup Cat, Strome, Kahun the following year.
- boilermaker100



The defense at this point is what it is, unless Seabrook and Keith get moved, Stan isn't going to do much their considering he has his blue chip defenseman.

Stan is going to try to improve his top 6 and top 9 . If he can get a Duchene and dzingel both signed for 12 million total that's a win win without breaking the bank.



Don't forget the following year let's say the cap rise 2.5 to 3.5 million plus Crawford's 6 million off the books he has that money. And maybe then Keith or Seabrook finally decide to get moved.
glennjpawlak22
Joined: 11.26.2013

Feb 20 @ 5:06 PM ET
Take a breath.
- boilermaker100


i remember back in the day, another poster to this site crafted similarly long and insightful posts....
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Feb 20 @ 5:07 PM ET
Can we get back to the Blackhawks and what might happen from now and until the end of TDL!! Who stays who gets moved? Does anyone think bowman will pull off a surprise move?
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