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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 21 @ 10:51 AM ET
Replace pills with coke and you have 80-90% of the bar scene in Buffalo, which is most of the population. And the players follow suit.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo



Problem is the coke is mixed with meth nowadays.


The days of yellow blow are long gone
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Feb 21 @ 10:56 AM ET
Problem is the coke is mixed with meth nowadays.


The days of yellow blow are long gone

- dadeadhead



Sure are.

I have some friends that are oblivious to the fact the most Buffalo bars are coke bars. No matter the bar, no matter the age. That is just what it is here. Long winters = drinking and drugs. And the players that go out fit right into that scene and get taken care of by fans/and bar owners.
Irish 14
Location: South Buffalo
Joined: 01.25.2007

Feb 21 @ 10:56 AM ET
Enough with stockpiling picks, we need players (Hayes/Toffili) type of deals! We can’t have all these picks and be good in 2025, we said the same thing 4/5 years ago (Eichel, Reinhart & Dahlin). Let’s try and win

But I guess the plan is to get Rochester a Championship first!
Sabre_Tooth
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We're all Duane, NE
Joined: 06.17.2015

Feb 21 @ 10:56 AM ET
Problem is the coke is mixed with meth nowadays.


The days of yellow blow are long gone

- dadeadhead



What you really have to be careful of is Fentanyl. We have the same coke problem here in NE.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Feb 21 @ 11:02 AM ET
They better have skinner signed this weekend there’s no excuse

If not you have to trade him sorry
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 21 @ 11:04 AM ET
Replace pills with coke and you have 80-90% of the bar scene in Buffalo, which is most of the population. And the players follow suit.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo


That percentage is too high
It’s around just about everywhere,
but that doesn’t mean everyone is doing it
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 21 @ 11:06 AM ET
They better have skinner signed this weekend there’s no excuse

If not you have to trade him sorry

- gerbe75pts


It’s been reported that he still has his NTC in tact, so we might not be able to trade him
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 21 @ 11:12 AM ET
It’s been reported that he still has his NTC in tact, so we might not be able to trade him
- jdfitz77



If your skinner:

You want 9 million
Sabres say "no"

If the Sabres aren't giving you 7 years let alone 8 years

Why wouldn't you waive your no trade?

Go and compete for a Stanley cup and check out the situation in another city for a few months?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 21 @ 11:20 AM ET
If your skinner:

You want 9 million
Sabres say "no"

If the Sabres aren't giving you 7 years let alone 8 years

Why wouldn't you waive your no trade?

Go and compete for a Stanley cup and check out the situation in another city for a few months?

- Boss34


U make sense
Only thing i could think of is that he is tearing it up here & if he goes somewhere else & doesn’t light it up in the playoffs then it could hurt his value - especially with other big time UFAs out there this year
MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

Feb 21 @ 11:25 AM ET
U make sense
Only thing i could think of is that he is tearing it up here & if he goes somewhere else & doesn’t light it up in the playoffs then it could hurt his value - especially with other big time UFAs out there this year

- jdfitz77


Skinner comes across as genuine and passionate about hockey, traits we all want.

If he doesn't want to sign here and refuses to be traded then the favor we did him putting him with an elite center is being disrespected. If he doesn't sign or refuses trade at deadline you let Mr. Skinner showcase his talents with Sobotka centering him
JAT27
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.03.2012

Feb 21 @ 11:25 AM ET
It would be lovely to pry Tolvanen away from Nashville.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 21 @ 11:27 AM ET
U make sense
Only thing i could think of is that he is tearing it up here & if he goes somewhere else & doesn’t light it up in the playoffs then it could hurt his value - especially with other big time UFAs out there this year

- jdfitz77



That's a good point as well.

Imagine skins putting together a great playoff run though........

Jack at 10 million

I'm not paying skins 9 million per
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Feb 21 @ 11:30 AM ET
It would be lovely to pry Tolvanen away from Nashville.
- JAT27


Would be lovely to draft a player like that as well.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Feb 21 @ 11:31 AM ET
So Evander Kane gets in all kinds of trouble during his time here and becomes a model citizen in San Jose.

Ryan O'Reilly was a cancer in the Sabres locker room and has become a great teammate in St. Louis.

Wonderful..

- mhp



Strong dressing room in SJ. Just saying.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Feb 21 @ 11:38 AM ET
Strong dressing room in SJ. Just saying.
- Powerslave


It’s a lot easier to demand respect when you are Joe Thornton, Joe Pavelski it Brent Burns. Sabres biggest problems and why we are where we are today is that Matt Moulson and Kyle Okposo were enormous flops. We have the kids and the young talent. No talented veterans to insulate and demand respect in the lockeroom. It’s easy to say that Jack should as the captain, I’m sure he is. However Jack is only one person and 22 years old to boot with lack of playoff experience.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Feb 21 @ 11:39 AM ET
How is this bad? I love it here! In my defense, my suicidal-thoughts-days are far behind me...set the bar low and enjoy the ride!

Sabres 0
Bolts 11

- LandlordTom



Would love it...would get Housley canned that's for sure
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 21 @ 11:40 AM ET
That's a good point as well.

Imagine skins putting together a great playoff run though........

Jack at 10 million

I'm not paying skins 9 million per

- Boss34


I think we end up signing him
But it’s a little nerve racking that we don’t have a deal done/announced yet
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Feb 21 @ 11:41 AM ET
It’s a lot easier to demand respect when you are Joe Thornton, Joe Pavelski it Brent Burns. Sabres biggest problems and why we are where we are today is that Matt Moulson and Kyle Okposo were enormous flops. We have the kids and the young talent. No talented veterans to insulate and demand respect in the lockeroom. It’s easy to say that Jack should as the captain, I’m sure he is. However Jack is only one person and 22 years old to boot with lack of playoff experience.
- Pegullaville



Yes. I would imagine Kane knew he had to keep his ducks, or sharks, in a row with those 3 staring at you from across the room.
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Feb 21 @ 11:41 AM ET
6 - 1 Bolts. Kuch with a hatty. Dahlin for the Sabres.

Even if Botts is gun-shy about pulling a big trade at the TDL, I am not sure why he and Housley don't change things up by bringing up Guhle, Oloffson and Nylander. And let them play for 10 games in positions to succeed. Let's see what they got. Pick any 3 stiffs to sit (starting with Sobotka). What do we have to lose at this point?

I know they don't want to mess with Rochester but screw Rochester. Botts #1 priority has to be the Sabres and putting the best possible product on the ice. The poor Sabres fans and season ticket holders deserve it.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 21 @ 11:46 AM ET
It would be lovely to pry Tolvanen away from Nashville.
- JAT27


Sure
But unless we trade them Skinner, i can’t imagine what we’d have they’d want
Supposedly NSH is willing to move him,
but only for a “big fish”
mattsox
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.14.2012

Feb 21 @ 11:46 AM ET
I think we end up signing him
But it’s a little nerve racking that we don’t have a deal done/announced yet

- jdfitz77


I heard that if they wait until or after trade deadline that they can max out at 8 years.

If true, I am hoping deal gets announced soon afterwards.

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 21 @ 11:48 AM ET
Yes. I would imagine Kane knew he had to keep his ducks, or sharks, in a row with those 3 staring at you from across the room.
- Powerslave


Ppl grow up eventually too
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 21 @ 11:50 AM ET
I heard that if they wait until or after trade deadline that they can max out at 8 years.

If true, I am hoping deal gets announced soon afterwards.

- mattsox


True
Right now we can only sign him to a 7year deal
But it doesn’t mean we can’t announce that we’ve agreed to sign an 8year deal with him after the deadline

If Skinner ends up walking,
that would be a disaster
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Feb 21 @ 11:51 AM ET
Was thinking about Botts answer to the question about fans calling for the firing of Housley, and being surprised about the fans feeling.
I have to believe that Botts must have formed some negative opinions of a significant portion of the roster as the problem, not the coaching...so he is giving Phil a pass. Pointing the finger more at himself for the roster, not as much at Phil and his xtaff.
I think that is accurate about the roster, but Phil has his improvement opportunities himself. Also, the D had been playing pretty, pretty good in November and much credit was given to Smith ... but that has now reverted back to being quite unstable.
I think we see soome hockey trades this offseason to replace guys we may have thought to be relatively safe ... Risto, I'm looking at you.

- IonSabres


this should tell you how out of touch the guy really is... Really he's surprised??? REALLY?
In fairness I think the Assistant coaches are all crap, so Phil hasn't exactly been setup for success.
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Feb 21 @ 11:56 AM ET
They better have skinner signed this weekend there’s no excuse

If not you have to trade him sorry

- gerbe75pts


you can't trade him unless he okay's it.... Do you really go to him and ask him to wave? how does that affect things? And he can say still say no to a trade.

Im of the same opinion, Botts would be wise to get him resigned sooner than later.
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