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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 21 @ 10:17 AM ET
https://www.tsn.ca/report...rangers-kreider-1.1261207
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Feb 21 @ 10:18 AM ET
No not big and or necessary mean.
Finish your check
Come playoff time, finishing checks will be a big part of success.

- Fakepartofme


I think we're agreeing with each other and we don't know it, hon.

To sum it up: I don't want Ferland or Simmonds.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 21 @ 10:20 AM ET
I think we're agreeing with each other and we don't know it, hon.

To sum it up: I don't want Ferland or Simmonds.

- gravyface



Ferland and Simmonds are both useful players, not just goons. These guys can score too and finish their checks and stand up for teammates.

gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Feb 21 @ 10:22 AM ET
Ferland and Simmonds are both useful players, not just goons. These guys can score too and finish their checks and stand up for teammates.
- PatC80


Hard pass.
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Feb 21 @ 10:23 AM ET
I never knew this existed:

https://www.nhl.com/video...es/t-277440360/c-66058803

The NHL explains their reasoning behind suspensions.

I have to give props to the NHL here: that's pretty cool.

And I agree with the suspension here: he got 2 games for excessive stupidity, not viciousness.

- Atomic Wedgie


This was implemented by Brendan Shannahan.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Feb 21 @ 10:29 AM ET
Ferland and Simmonds are both useful players, not just goons. These guys can score too and finish their checks and stand up for teammates.
- PatC80

If we could get Simmonds for a ham sandwich, I wouldn't mind him as a rental.

His next contract scares the hell out of me - guys who play that game don't usually play well in their later years.
TheMuzzel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 01.30.2019

Feb 21 @ 10:30 AM ET
If we could get Simmonds for a ham sandwich, I wouldn't mind him as a rental.

His next contract scares the hell out of me - guys who play that game don't usually play well in their later years.

- Atomic Wedgie


I'd make it a club sandwich if Philly retains half his salary
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 21 @ 10:31 AM ET
If we could get Simmonds for a ham sandwich, I wouldn't mind him as a rental.

His next contract scares the hell out of me - guys who play that game don't usually play well in their later years.

- Atomic Wedgie


The contract next year would scare me too, unless it was a 1-2 year deal..

I don't think we can afford Simmonds or Ferland though, asking price seems to be really high on both
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 21 @ 10:33 AM ET
I'd make it a club sandwich if Philly retains half his salary
- TheMuzzel



I think it has to be at least a Philly Cheesesteak sammich,
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 21 @ 10:33 AM ET
For tonight;

Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Marleau-Matthews-Kapanen
Johnsson-Nylander-Brown
Lindholm-Gauthier-Ennis

Rielly-Hainsey
Muzzin-Dermott
Gardiner-Zaitsev

Andersen
Sparks
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Feb 21 @ 10:35 AM ET
K
- burn


I mean, Dunn did kinda leave his feet.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Feb 21 @ 10:36 AM ET
Uh people arent talking about Kingberg because he's not even close to available. He was in the running for Norris last year, and Dallas is in a playoff spot

Lets put it this way, Jensen >>>> Hainsey/Zaitsev and most definitely McQuaid

So, I know what Id prefer to do.

- Archaic


I think I'm watching a different Jensen than some of you guys. 'Cause the one I watch on Detroit isn't good.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Feb 21 @ 10:37 AM ET
so what does a Chris Kreider cost?? Brooks suggesting that Leafs have inquired (among others). Can we obtain him without trading a roster player?

Kreider - Matthews - Nylander
Hyman - Tavares - Marner
Johnsson - Kadri - Kapanen
Marleau - Goat - Brown


- steve362


Nah. According to one on EK's thread Kreider alone would cost the Leafs Nylander.
Symba.007
Location: Caitlin > Kim -bigzby, ON
Joined: 03.23.2010

Feb 21 @ 10:39 AM ET
Nah. According to one on EK's thread Kreider alone would cost the Leafs Nylander.
- GreatGigInTheSky

starts with Nylander...
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 21 @ 10:41 AM ET
I think I'm watching a different Jensen than some of you guys. 'Cause the one I watch on Detroit isn't good.
- GreatGigInTheSky



I think Leaf fans are scraping the bottom of every barrel.. Jensen would be an upgrade on what we currently have on the right side.
TheMuzzel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 01.30.2019

Feb 21 @ 10:41 AM ET
I think Leaf fans are scraping the bottom of every barrel.. Jensen would be an upgrade on what we currently have on the right side.
- PatC80


And other teams are probably putting the Leafs over it knowing that they're desperate for an upgrade there
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Feb 21 @ 10:43 AM ET
https://www.tsn.ca/report-leafs-inquire-on-rangers-kreider-1.1261207
- PatC80

I’d trade Johnnson and Brown for him and a mid pick.

The Leafs wouldn’t have to do poop next TDL other than maybe some depth.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Feb 21 @ 10:45 AM ET
starts with Nylander...
- Symba.007


Is that what he said? Either way it's stupid.

EDIT: This is what he said-

"Here’s my counter offer... because your nuts:

Kapanen
Nylander
1st (if you don’t have one this year, I want next years)

Then whatever crap you want to offset the salaries,
ie-Brown
Gardiner
Zaitsev

For

Hayes
Kreider
Pionk
McQuaid

Kreider alone costs you Nylander, sorry"

Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Feb 21 @ 10:45 AM ET
It's the ebb and flow of the season. poop the bruins were just barely in a wild card spot 2 to 3 weeks ago and are now 9-0-3 in their last 12 and 4 pts up on the Leafs for second (2 more GP). There are runs and there are ruts, somewhere in the middle is what the team actually is.
- RickJames77

Pretty much.
plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Feb 21 @ 10:46 AM ET
I’d trade Johnnson and Brown for him and a mid pick.

The Leafs wouldn’t have to do poop next TDL other than maybe some depth.

- Santo_44


I would agree.
Although not sure Babcock is looking to trade 2 guys that can kill penalties.

NYR would probably be looking at Johnsson + Moore plus a 3rd rounder. A hefty price, but Kreider is a good top6 winger.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 21 @ 10:46 AM ET
And other teams are probably putting the Leafs over it knowing that they're desperate for an upgrade there
- TheMuzzel



Also true.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Feb 21 @ 10:48 AM ET
I think Leaf fans are scraping the bottom of every barrel.. Jensen would be an upgrade on what we currently have on the right side.
- PatC80


He's really not, though.

People like to poop on Zaitsev, which is understandable, because he makes mistakes, but Jensen is not better than him. Hainsey, when actually on the 3rd pairing and getting less ice time, is probably still better than him. But I would probably take Jensen over Hainsey just so Babcock can't keep putting him on the 1st pairing.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 21 @ 10:49 AM ET
Is that what he said? Either way it's stupid.

EDIT: This is what he said-

"Here’s my counter offer... because your nuts:

Kapanen
Nylander
1st (if you don’t have one this year, I want next years)

Then whatever crap you want to offset the salaries,
ie-Brown
Gardiner
Zaitsev

For

Hayes
Kreider
Pionk
McQuaid

Kreider alone costs you Nylander, sorry"


- GreatGigInTheSky



I saw that too,
Kapanen and Nylander alone would get more than that package

Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Feb 21 @ 10:50 AM ET
I would agree.
Although not sure Babcock is looking to trade 2 guys that can kill penalties.

NYR would probably be looking at Johnsson + Moore plus a 3rd rounder. A hefty price, but Kreider is a good top6 winger.

- plantheparade

Yeah true.

I mean Brown is probably gone regardless...whatever pick they send to the NYR they can recoup on draft day with a Brown trade.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 21 @ 10:50 AM ET
He's really not, though.

People like to poop on Zaitsev, which is understandable, because he makes mistakes, but Jensen is not better than him. Hainsey, when actually on the 3rd pairing and getting less ice time, is probably still better than him. But I would probably take Jensen over Hainsey just so Babcock can't keep putting him on the 1st pairing.

- GreatGigInTheSky



I'm talking in terms of right shot defensemen.. After Zaitsev, we have very little
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