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DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Feb 21 @ 8:02 PM ET
Yeah what’s your solution you muppet. Ryan is such a stud hey? He has had two good weeks.
- jessehub


For starters Ryan is a center not a winger. Apples and Oranges.
Also Ryan is not a UFA
Ryan has been very solid for way more than 2 weeks.

jessehub
Calgary Flames
Location: BC
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 21 @ 8:04 PM ET
Actually Ryan has been friggin invaluable this last stretch. I like the signing, term & $$$$, it's giving us a lot of strength in the bottom 6. Wins faceoffs, great on PK & has been getting points of late. Takes guys time to fit into roles. Just saying, why so negative on Ryan?
- Kevin R



Not negative on him, he is great on faceoffs, didn’t do a whole lot up until the last few weeks. I said I’d take zucc over him thats all.
jessehub
Calgary Flames
Location: BC
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 21 @ 8:06 PM ET
For starters Ryan is a center not a winger. Apples and Oranges.
Also Ryan is not a UFA
Ryan has been very solid for way more than 2 weeks.

- DEDDIE


For starters Backlund plays with Ryan. He is also a center. Backlund moves back to centre zucc on the wing.
jessehub
Calgary Flames
Location: BC
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 21 @ 8:08 PM ET
For starters Ryan is a center not a winger. Apples and Oranges.
Also Ryan is not a UFA
Ryan has been very solid for way more than 2 weeks.

- DEDDIE


Just a thought. That’s who I think BT is scouting. Thats where I would slot him in if he came over.
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Feb 21 @ 8:11 PM ET
Actually Ryan has been friggin invaluable this last stretch. I like the signing, term & $$$$, it's giving us a lot of strength in the bottom 6. Wins faceoffs, great on PK & has been getting points of late. Takes guys time to fit into roles. Just saying, why so negative on Ryan?
- Kevin R

Thanks dude!!
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Feb 21 @ 8:12 PM ET
For starters Backlund plays with Ryan. He is also a center. Backlund moves back to centre zucc on the wing.
- jessehub


Hahhhhhhh?

Have no problem adding Zuc for the right price, in fact I would like the move.
Ryan is our 4th line center and one of the best 4th line centers in the league at that.
Ryan would play on almost every teams top 3 lines the way he has played in 2019!
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Feb 21 @ 8:17 PM ET
For starters Backlund plays with Ryan. He is also a center. Backlund moves back to centre zucc on the wing.
- jessehub

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jessehub
Calgary Flames
Location: BC
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 21 @ 8:23 PM ET
???
- Clyde334


Who do you think he’s scouting?
jessehub
Calgary Flames
Location: BC
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 21 @ 8:28 PM ET
???
- Clyde334


Power play 2

Bennett-Backs/Ryan

No?...
jessehub
Calgary Flames
Location: BC
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 21 @ 8:32 PM ET
Hegelin cost WASH a 3rd and a conditional 6th so gotta think NYR are looking for a 1st for Zuc. No way in hell I give up a first or an A prospect for Zuc.
A 2020 2nd tops!

- DEDDIE


2nd and prospect is what old bob is saying. No ones going to pay a 1st for Zucc. We will see what happens in the next few days.
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Feb 21 @ 8:34 PM ET
Who do you think he’s scouting?
- jessehub

Zucc for sure. But Backs doesn’t play with Ryan. I like Zucc no doubt just don’t know who he replaces in the line up.
jessehub
Calgary Flames
Location: BC
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 21 @ 8:36 PM ET
Zucc for sure. But Backs doesn’t play with Ryan. I like Zucc no doubt just don’t know who he replaces in the line up.
- Clyde334


Who’s on the 2nd power play now? Haven’t watched a game all month. Night shifts 👎🏽

My bad
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Feb 21 @ 8:44 PM ET
Who’s on the 2nd power play now? Haven’t watched a game all month. Night shifts 👎🏽

My bad

- jessehub

Not your bad dude. For sure Ryan has played with Backs, only to have 2 faceoff guys.

I would love Zucc, just hopefully not for a roster player or a 1st. Agree?
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Feb 21 @ 8:44 PM ET
2nd and prospect is what old bob is saying. No ones going to pay a 1st for Zucc. We will see what happens in the next few days.
- jessehub


Old Bob is also saying 2 firsts and 2 very good prospects is Ottawa's asking price for Stone. I love Stone but not at that price. Too many other 1B options out there that can help us to even consider that deal.
jessehub
Calgary Flames
Location: BC
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 21 @ 8:47 PM ET
Old Bob is also saying 2 firsts and 2 very good prospects is Ottawa's asking price for Stone. I love Stone but not at that price. Too many other 1B options out there that can help us to even consider that deal.
- DEDDIE


I believe it they want a 1st and your left Nut for Dzingel I can believe the stone price.

Kind of over the whole stone trade. Cant see BT selling the farm for a rental. Sounds like he is asking for 10 mill so we wouldn’t be resigning him.

Who knows though...
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Feb 21 @ 8:48 PM ET
Old Bob is also saying 2 firsts and 2 very good prospects is Ottawa's asking price for Stone. I love Stone but not at that price. Too many other 1B options out there that can help us to even consider that deal.
- DEDDIE

Agree way too much!
pzoxic
Joined: 11.21.2015

Feb 21 @ 9:38 PM ET
Old Bob is also saying 2 firsts and 2 very good prospects is Ottawa's asking price for Stone. I love Stone but not at that price. Too many other 1B options out there that can help us to even consider that deal.
- DEDDIE

BT is a better Gm then that! No way he is doing that. He is no chiarelli you know.
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Feb 21 @ 9:39 PM ET
Old Bob is also saying 2 firsts and 2 very good prospects is Ottawa's asking price for Stone. I love Stone but not at that price. Too many other 1B options out there that can help us to even consider that deal.
- DEDDIE


It doesn't really matter what the asking price is. They'd be stupid not to have a ridiculous asking price. It doesn't make a lot of sense to start the negotiations saying they want a 1st and a decent prospect.

They start out asking for 2 firsts, Valimaki, and Dube with the hope that they'll get at least a 1st and Kylington.
Helios
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 08.11.2016

Feb 21 @ 9:45 PM ET
Hoffman was asked to submit his 10 team no trade list. Any thoughts on him?
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Feb 21 @ 9:50 PM ET
Hoffman was asked to submit his 10 team no trade list. Any thoughts on him?
- Helios


The Flames should focus 100% of their efforts on bringing him in for the sole reason that it adds an epic storyline to the inevitable Flames-Sharks matchup.

In the real world, he's probably not worth what it would cost to get him. Unless they'd do a one for one for Brodie.
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Feb 21 @ 9:58 PM ET
The Flames should focus 100% of their efforts on bringing him in for the sole reason that it adds an epic storyline to the inevitable Flames-Sharks matchup.

In the real world, he's probably not worth what it would cost to get him.

- Hunkulese


I'm still lost on why people are somewhat down on Hoffman, the guy scores at an unbelievably consistent ra

Also still chuckle that people here thought Bennett for Hoffman straight up was a bad deal last year when Ottawa made him available. Love Benny's grit, but our 2nd line would be unreal with Hoffman alongside Backs and Chucky. Given what SJ eventually gave up to acquire him, we could have dealt Frolik straight up in the off-season and kept Bennett for the 3rd line... what could have been... lol
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Feb 21 @ 10:04 PM ET
It doesn't really matter what the asking price is. They'd be stupid not to have a ridiculous asking price. It doesn't make a lot of sense to start the negotiations saying they want a 1st and a decent prospect.

They start out asking for 2 firsts, Valimaki, and Dube with the hope that they'll get at least a 1st and Kylington.

- Hunkulese


Good point.
After several dud trade deadlines this years could be fun.
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Feb 21 @ 10:09 PM ET
I'm still lost on why people are somewhat down on Hoffman, the guy scores at an unbelievably consistent ra

Also still chuckle that people here thought Bennett for Hoffman straight up was a bad deal last year when Ottawa made him available. Love Benny's grit, but our 2nd line would be unreal with Hoffman alongside Backs and Chucky. Given what SJ eventually gave up to acquire him, we could have dealt Frolik straight up in the off-season and kept Bennett for the 3rd line... what could have been... lol

- rmull905


Hoffman was politically incorrect last year though and that's why all the hockey markets avoided him like the plague. I'm not sure he's a good fit in our dressing room either.
Dude can finish though big time.
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Feb 21 @ 10:10 PM ET
I'm still lost on why people are somewhat down on Hoffman, the guy scores at an unbelievably consistent ra

Also still chuckle that people here thought Bennett for Hoffman straight up was a bad deal last year when Ottawa made him available. Love Benny's grit, but our 2nd line would be unreal with Hoffman alongside Backs and Chucky. Given what SJ eventually gave up to acquire him, we could have dealt Frolik straight up in the off-season and kept Bennett for the 3rd line... what could have been... lol

- rmull905


He's fine, but he wouldn't fit on the Flames second line. Putting him out against the other team's best every night would be a disaster. I was all for bringing in Hoffman before they got Lindholm, but now he's not the ideal fit.

They're also going to be looking for a return similar to what the big three should get since he has a year left. I also don't think the Flames should be adding another 5 million to next year's payroll.

Brodie and Neal for Hoffman?
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Feb 21 @ 10:13 PM ET
Hoffman was politically incorrect last year though and that's why all the hockey markets avoided him like the plague. I'm not sure he's a good fit in our dressing room either.
Dude can finish though big time.

- DEDDIE


Following that story, as unfortunate as it sounds given the circumstances, there is still no evidence that the Hoffman's did anything... unfortunate if true that a potentially innocent guy was crucified... and crucified for something is fiancee is accused of, not even himself...

Doubt he's a locker room issue, if he was, he wouldn't be crushing it in FLA.
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