nothing has changed they are still a team in transition. They need more experience for their young players, they need more speed and skill. They have to many of the same type of players.

I hate to say it but someone like Lindblom might make sense to put in a trade package. I like Lindblom a lot but he is a lot like others in the line up. For that matter Laughton, I like him a lot, he has good wheels but just not enough skill to play up in the line up. They need to reshape the lineup

You have G, Coots, Jake, JVR, Patrick, Lindbolm, Simmer, Laughton and TK in the top 9. You have to trade Simmer and replace him with speed and skill but that still leaves not enough speed or not enough skill. So who do you replace to change the O dynamic? Has to be Laughton and Lindbolm.

Trade talks can go on for weeks. Teams pull players when a trade is imminent and agreed to in principal normally.
- MJL

Umm no, Ottowa sat Duchense Dzingel and Stone, they don't have something agreed upon for each guy. They are just trying to trade them. There is no right answer here but it would be logical to sit a guy the last couple games of the trade deadline if you are going to trade them.

It always does. And then you realize they're just as dumb and jerky as your old friends.
- Scoob

a reminder we are all dumb and jerky...

Umm no, Ottowa sat Duchense Dzingel and Stone, they don't have something agreed upon for each guy. They are just trying to trade them. There is no right answer here but it would be logical to sit a guy the last couple games of the trade deadline if you are going to trade them.
- ClaudeFather

I think the point is "KNOWING THEY ARE GOING TO TRADE THEM"

Umm no, Ottowa sat Duchense Dzingel and Stone, they don't have something agreed upon for each guy. They are just trying to trade them. There is no right answer here but it would be logical to sit a guy the last couple games of the trade deadline if you are going to trade them.
- ClaudeFather

Guys have been sat plenty of times in the pro's to avoid an injury while a deal on being saught. It's not uncommon.

Chances are they set a deadline for Wayne to sign by anyway and chances are that point has passed. Sure, guys have been extended on deadline day, but it's far from the norm.

Umm no, Ottowa sat Duchense Dzingel and Stone, they don't have something agreed upon for each guy. They are just trying to trade them. There is no right answer here but it would be logical to sit a guy the last couple games of the trade deadline if you are going to trade them.
- ClaudeFather

Umm yes. Nothing is absolute and there are always anomalies. The word "normally" addresses that. I don't agree with players sitting with no trade in place.

When it comes to Phil Myers finally getting a chance to be a top 6 NHL dman, better late than never.

I think the point is "KNOWING THEY ARE GOING TO TRADE THEM"
- wcorvette

Yea... We clearly aren't signing Simmonds..

Umm yes. Nothing is absolute and there are always anomalies. The word "normally" addresses that. I don't agree with players sitting with no trade in place.
- MJL

Doesn't matter what YOU think. Some NHL teams will sit the players while others won't, no right answer. Not a terrible idea to protect your asset.

You have G, Coots, Jake, JVR, Patrick, Lindbolm, Simmer, Laughton and TK in the top 9. You have to trade Simmer and replace him with speed and skill but that still leaves not enough speed or not enough skill. So who do you replace to change the O dynamic? Has to be Laughton and Lindbolm.
- wcorvette

You go after a top free agent forward. Ideally, Panarin.

It would have great if Fletcher could have moved Laughton for Niederreiter. The Wild got Rask who has 8 points in 36 games and already got injured. Christ, they really screwed themselves with that trade.

If Panarin makes it to the open market this offseason, I think the Flyers should go very hard after him. I hesitate to say "go all-in", because I don't want to see a crazy record-setting contract, but I also recognize that it's going to take a massive deal that will be tough to swallow at first.
At 27, he is in his prime. And IMO he is exactly the type of player this team needs to truly move this thing along towards being serious contenders. As long as the numbers aren't too crazy, I'd go for it. Plus there's the history with coach Q, for whatever that's worth. Which I realize may be nothing

If Panarin makes it to the open market this offseason, I think the Flyers should go very hard after him. I hesitate to say "go all-in", because I don't want to see a crazy record-setting contract, but I also recognize that it's going to take a massive deal that will be tough to swallow at first.
At 27, he is in his prime. And IMO he is exactly the type of player this team needs to truly move this thing along towards being serious contenders. As long as the numbers aren't too crazy, I'd go for it. Plus there's the history with coach Q, for whatever that's worth. Which I realize may be nothing
- Big_E_88

I think he'll get 7 x $11m AAV. Maybe more.

Doesn't matter what YOU think. Some NHL teams will sit the players while others won't, no right answer. Not a terrible idea to protect your asset.
- ClaudeFather

The debate and question asked was if they should sit Simmonds. So it does matter what I think. What was not up for debate is what teams do or don't do.

You go after a top free agent forward. Ideally, Panarin.

It would have great if Fletcher could have moved Laughton for Niederreiter. The Wild got Rask who has 8 points in 36 games and already got injured. Christ, they really screwed themselves with that trade.
- Feanor

If Stone and Panarin ht the open market I might be more inclined to go after Stone. But if that's the case then i would look to move Voracek at the draft.

I get your point, and honestly, it's very logical reasoning. But 2 things, one based on fans and one based on the TDL:

1) It's against your biggest rival on a huge stage. This win won't make a difference this season, but to the team, and Simmonds, it's still a big game. The Flyers owe it to the 40,000+ fans who shelled out hundreds/thousands of dollars for tix (and Simmonds as a long-tenured player) to play him (IMO).

2) Let's say that, in the next few days, the Flyers don't receive any offers that they feel are worth it. If your best offer is a late 2nd and a D+ prospect, would you make the move, or would you ride it out with him? There's no guarantee that he'll be traded (or resigned), so you'd be sitting him for nothing.

Again, I get your reasoning, but I'd play him as long as he's still on the roster.
- jmatchett383

It's rather unfortunate timing having the big outdoor game right before the deadline. If it was a regular game at home against Ottawa it would be a lot easier to give Wayne the night off without it being a big deal.

The debate and question asked was if they should sit Simmonds. So it does matter what I think. What was not up for debate is what teams do or don't do.
- MJL

Read through the lines man, once again, there's no right answer it could go either way. We are basically out of it but not completely so if he's on the roster he should play but if we were 14 points out I'd sit hi Montreal game and Pitt or until he was traded. In reality it never matters what YOU think, you are a username on Hockeybuzz, same with the rest of us.

It's rather unfortunate timing having the big outdoor game right before the deadline. If it was a regular game at home against Ottawa it would be a lot easier to give Wayne the night off without it being a big deal.
- Feanor

The conditions for the game are going to be flat out terrible which makes it even easier for me to sit him tbh.

If Stone and Panarin ht the open market I might be more inclined to go after Stone. But if that's the case then i would look to move Voracek at the draft.
- J35Bacher

The Flyers don't have enough high end offensive talent but have a ton of cap room and are looking to win playoff rounds, so that move makes no sense.

a reminder we are all dumb and jerky...
- wcorvette

I didn't want to come straight out and say that, but since you did, I agree.

Read through the lines man, once again, there's no right answer it could go either way. We are basically out of it but not completely so if he's on the roster he should play but if we were 14 points out I'd sit hi Montreal game and Pitt or until he was traded. In reality it never matters what YOU think, you are a username on Hockeybuzz, same with the rest of us.
- ClaudeFather

You're completely out of context. The poster asked this question.

"Probably an unpopular opinion but would you sit Simmonds for the outdoor game if he is your biggest trade chip? If your not re-signing him, is it worth it to risk a possible injury?"

Who was he asking, the posters on this forum or the NHL execs killing time on the thread?

The Flyers don't have enough high end offensive talent but have a ton of cap room and are looking to win playoff rounds, so that move makes no sense.
- Feanor

Can't say it makes no sense of you dont know what the return for Jake is. Yeah, this team needs a boost offensively but I can see a situation where he's dealt and it's justified.

a reminder we are all dumb and jerky...
- wcorvette

Spot the lie

The conditions for the game are going to be flat out terrible which makes it even easier for me to sit him tbh.
- hereticpride

They could really be in trouble here. Rain Saturday night and Sunday.

If Stone and Panarin ht the open market I might be more inclined to go after Stone. But if that's the case then i would look to move Voracek at the draft.
- J35Bacher

I assume you're saying this because Stone will likely cost less, and he is a more well-rounded player. Well IMO the flyers shouldn't be aiming for well-rounded. They need play-makers with offensive creativity. Guys that can create time & space on their own, and consistently bury prime scoring chances. I have no issue with Stone. I'm just ready to aim a little higher on the offensive skill

You take it.

But I don't think they are going to be underwhelming.

I just saw Coyle get a solid prospect like Donato and a pick. I feel Simmonds can grab the same thing and probably a higher pick then what Coyle got.
- J35Bacher

Coyle had a year left at $3.2m, so his value is higher than Simmonds, who is a rental.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/charlie-coyle