scottak
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Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley! Joined: 08.06.2010
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Colbyboy
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Location: Summerside , PEI Joined: 12.14.2013
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Dude,
ALL the teams in from of the Hawks play multiple times before the Hawks play. Not only are the Hawks 4 points out of a wild card sport, behind 3 other teams, the Blackhawks have the most games played in the conference.
Id sell if possible
AA
Kruger
Kunitz
WARD
Saad (I doubt Bowman would trade Saad because he made such a big deal to get him for the following 2 seasons.)
Gus
Seabrook or Keith if ANY WAY possible.
Any freed up $ and any extra picks will help for next season starting on 7/1 - mrpaulish
Explain the logic of moving Saad? I’m alll ears
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HawkintheD
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Location: Sick Bay, MI Joined: 02.22.2012
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I openly admit that I was critical of Q and thought it was time for a coaching change. One of my main concerns was the Hawks were playing a reckless defensive game. Q was allowing Samuelsson to run an offensive defensive system which had the D-Men out of position constantly. Whether you agreed with all of Q’s moves or not, one thing that you could depend upon with Q earlier, was that the Hawks would be tough to score against. If there was a bad defensive game it was a guarantee that the team would tighten up a lot with a shut-out or an one goal game. Samuelsson changed all of this.
That I wanted Q to leave did not mean I wanted that move at any cost or that I thought he could be replaced by just anyone. This was especially true for a team that had 5 players on it with numerous Cup wins and Gold Medals. Q’s replacement simply had to be someone with gravitas.
Colliton was the last person that should have been hired. Not only did he not have the gravitas to be a Head Coach in the NHL, he didn’t even have a resume to be named Rockford’s Head Coach. There was no other NHL or AHL team that had any interest in him. The fact that I believed it was time to replace Q does not prevent me from being critcal of his replacement when such replacement does not even have the resume to be an AHL Head Coach.
Colliton was placed on Bowman’s radar by one Swedish Scout - one. There was no huge buzz about a young genius Coach before he was just handed Rockford. Teams were not fighting to hire him. There was one Swedish guy. Colliton coached in the Tier 2 league of Sweden - Tier 2 - where by his own admission Colliton has said you worried about whether your team would even exist week to week. He did not coach in the top Swedish Elite league and not the KHL. Also he had very poor results in 3 of his 4 seasons in the Tier 2 league of Sweden. Consequently, when he was hired in Rockford he was not qualified. When he was hired in Chicago he was even less qualified. Kane has stated the players thought the same - there is no way this has changed.
The Hawks are a total mess under Colliton. The Hawks never have even one good defensive game. His D “system” seems to be to strive for having every D-Man out of position all the time. As a fan it is impossible to envision a game where the Hawks get a shut-out or give up just one goal or even 2 goals - or give up 18 shots or 20 shots or even 25 shots. Colliton’s D “system” gives up scores of shots against and chances against. It is actually ludicrous.
Also dislike his favouring of certain players that has nothing at all to do with performance. His recent treatment of Jokiharju has me really worried. Point to a player, who started the year paired with Keith, and say we are shipping you out as you have lost confidence, when your treatment of him is the very reason for that. Insane. Immature.
So yes I was entitled to criticize Q AND am entitled to criticize Colliton. - Z3Hawk
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kwolf68
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Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA Joined: 12.18.2010
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Explain the logic of moving Saad? I’m alll ears - Colbyboy
There is NO logic, unless you can get a <26 year old Top Pairing D-man. |
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mohel
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Location: IL Joined: 02.08.2013
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There is NO logic, unless you can get a <26 year old Top Pairing D-man. - kwolf68
Imo, you're not going to get a Top Pair D-Man under 26 for anything the Hawk could reasonable offer. |
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kwolf68
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Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA Joined: 12.18.2010
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Imo, you're not going to get a Top Pair D-Man under 26 for anything the Hawk could reasonable offer. - mohel
Then Saad stays in Chicago. |
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TrueGrit
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Location: FL Joined: 07.19.2011
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Had family obligation today, caught the last few minutes without sound.
Saad ices the puck near end of game 5 pages of Trade Saad.
Another tough loss. Makes playoffs a longer shot.
Proud of teams effort last 2 games. Outplayed both opponents for much of games.
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Colbyboy
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Location: Summerside , PEI Joined: 12.14.2013
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Then Saad stays in Chicago. - kwolf68
Clearly- he stays |
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Ogilthorpe2
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Location: 37,000 FT Joined: 07.09.2009
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333inthe3rd
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Location: Chicago, IL Joined: 02.04.2015
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walleyeb1
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Location: Petersburg, IL Joined: 09.25.2014
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scottak
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Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley! Joined: 08.06.2010
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No. - Ogilthorpe2
Brilliant retort! You’ve convinced me. Young Jeremy is the next coming of Punch Imlach. Better days are just around the corner!
His personal pet, Gustafsson, will play 28 minutes a night, score 50 goals, but still have a negative Corsi. Kane will take to IV fluids between shifts as JC triple shifts him. JC will bring a few of his Mora defensemen over to shore up the backend.
#InJeremyWeTrust |
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DarthKane
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Location: 5.13.4.9 Joined: 02.23.2012
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Imo, you're not going to get a Top Pair D-Man under 26 for anything the Hawk could reasonable offer. - mohel
This is the only way Saad gets moved, even then i think the Hawks would rather keep him and pursue a defensive d-man via free agency.
Thinking along the trade scenario, the idea I’ve heard most often is Saad for Hamilton and I’m not sure how I feel about that. |
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Slofire94
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Location: CA Joined: 01.17.2016
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This is the only way Saad gets moved, even then i think the Hawks would rather keep him and pursue a defensive d-man via free agency.
Thinking along the trade scenario, the idea I’ve heard most often is Saad for Hamilton and I’m not sure how I feel about that. - DarthKane
But we'd gain $250,000 in glorious cap space for the next (2) years!
Source: capfriendly.com |
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DarthKane
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Location: 5.13.4.9 Joined: 02.23.2012
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But we'd gain $250,000 in glorious cap space for the next (2) years!
Source: capfriendly.com - Slofire94
Great point, pull the trigger Stan!
I know Saad hasn’t lived up to expectations since returning to Chicago but I’m still a fan of his overall game. I’d rather see Saad stay with the team. |
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Ogilthorpe2
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Location: 37,000 FT Joined: 07.09.2009
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Brilliant retort! You’ve convinced me. Young Jeremy is the next coming of Punch Imlach. Better days are just around the corner!
His personal pet, Gustafsson, will play 28 minutes a night, score 50 goals, but still have a negative Corsi. Kane will take to IV fluids between shifts as JC triple shifts him. JC will bring a few of his Mora defensemen over to shore up the backend.
#InJeremyWeTrust - scottak
No? |
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walleyeb1
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Location: Petersburg, IL Joined: 09.25.2014
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I openly admit that I was critical of Q and thought it was time for a coaching change. One of my main concerns was the Hawks were playing a reckless defensive game. Q was allowing Samuelsson to run an offensive defensive system which had the D-Men out of position constantly. Whether you agreed with all of Q’s moves or not, one thing that you could depend upon with Q earlier, was that the Hawks would be tough to score against. If there was a bad defensive game it was a guarantee that the team would tighten up a lot with a shut-out or an one goal game. Samuelsson changed all of this.
That I wanted Q to leave did not mean I wanted that move at any cost or that I thought he could be replaced by just anyone. This was especially true for a team that had 5 players on it with numerous Cup wins and Gold Medals. Q’s replacement simply had to be someone with gravitas.
Colliton was the last person that should have been hired. Not only did he not have the gravitas to be a Head Coach in the NHL, he didn’t even have a resume to be named Rockford’s Head Coach. There was no other NHL or AHL team that had any interest in him. The fact that I believed it was time to replace Q does not prevent me from being critcal of his replacement when such replacement does not even have the resume to be an AHL Head Coach.
Colliton was placed on Bowman’s radar by one Swedish Scout - one. There was no huge buzz about a young genius Coach before he was just handed Rockford. Teams were not fighting to hire him. There was one Swedish guy. Colliton coached in the Tier 2 league of Sweden - Tier 2 - where by his own admission Colliton has said you worried about whether your team would even exist week to week. He did not coach in the top Swedish Elite league and not the KHL. Also he had very poor results in 3 of his 4 seasons in the Tier 2 league of Sweden. Consequently, when he was hired in Rockford he was not qualified. When he was hired in Chicago he was even less qualified. Kane has stated the players thought the same - there is no way this has changed.
The Hawks are a total mess under Colliton. The Hawks never have even one good defensive game. His D “system” seems to be to strive for having every D-Man out of position all the time. As a fan it is impossible to envision a game where the Hawks get a shut-out or give up just one goal or even 2 goals - or give up 18 shots or 20 shots or even 25 shots. Colliton’s D “system” gives up scores of shots against and chances against. It is actually ludicrous.
Also dislike his favouring of certain players that has nothing at all to do with performance. His recent treatment of Jokiharju has me really worried. Point to a player, who started the year paired with Keith, and say we are shipping you out as you have lost confidence, when your treatment of him is the very reason for that. Insane. Immature.
So yes I was entitled to criticize Q AND am entitled to criticize Colliton. - Z3Hawk
One Swedish Scout - 1
Who just happened to be Mats Hallin, the Blackhawks' director of European scouting.
On the bright side I guess we have progressed from crazy talk about his only experience was Swedish beer league coaching! Hallin’s take on the series that got Mora promoted to the top Swedish league.
"In that series, Jeremy outcoached Leksand. He outsmarted them," Hallin said. "Some Swedish coaches, they play the four lines, and they keep going -- they like to trust their players. This guy, he just mixed it up a little bit more. It was interesting for everybody here because not often do you see that from a North American coach." |
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bogiedoc
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Location: VA Joined: 09.27.2011
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funny the difference a couple losses make when you are part of a big blob of average to below average teams fighting for a WC spot...ya go from tied to 5 pts back...
the hawks have had their big win streak...now its time finish it out if they continue to score and end around 80 pts... |
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jhawk59
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Joined: 02.15.2013
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Brilliant retort! You’ve convinced me. Young Jeremy is the next coming of Punch Imlach. Better days are just around the corner!
His personal pet, Gustafsson, will play 28 minutes a night, score 50 goals, but still have a negative Corsi. Kane will take to IV fluids between shifts as JC triple shifts him. JC will bring a few of his Mora defensemen over to shore up the backend.
#InJeremyWeTrust - scottak
Either u r being sarcastic or u just do not get it.
It does no good to sit an asset. He may be worth more later on, or maybe his zenith is now. The defense is bad enough so you could argue he makes it worse. But he offers so much offensively. I do not know if you read the post about how brilliant vs how failing he can be - the post used hockey IQ as a measuring stick.
A coach uses the players at his disposal. So whom plays instead. Dahlstrom. No one from Rockford reportedly (according to some posts and other.sources) is ready.
Gustafson certainly has drawn attention. Enough to have warranted a trade proposal. Which could lead to his departure and your gleeful Toyota jump for joy (or it could be a Ron Santo clicking heels). Maybe even Phoenix would call if Stan offered a better deal than Gostisbehere pricetag. |
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jhawk59
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Joined: 02.15.2013
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Great point, pull the trigger Stan!
I know Saad hasn’t lived up to expectations since returning to Chicago but I’m still a fan of his overall game. I’d rather see Saad stay with the team. - DarthKane
Exactly. |
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GlennL
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Location: Grayslake, IL Joined: 03.02.2016
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There is NO logic, unless you can get a <26 year old Top Pairing D-man. - kwolf68
How I miss Hossa, such a complete player both ends of the ice. |
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jhawk59
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Joined: 02.15.2013
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Imo, you're not going to get a Top Pair D-Man under 26 for anything the Hawk could reasonable offer. - mohel
That is very logical conclusion |
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DarthKane
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Location: 5.13.4.9 Joined: 02.23.2012
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How I miss Hossa, such a complete player both ends of the ice. - GlennL
There are too many forwards like Hosea, we were lucky to have him on the team. I hope when his contract is up he finds a role on the team. |
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mrpaulish
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Location: Itasca, IL Joined: 01.18.2010
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Strickland:
#sjsharks appear to be front runner to land Red Wings Gustav Nyquist. #LGRW |
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DarthKane
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Location: 5.13.4.9 Joined: 02.23.2012
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Strickland:
#sjsharks appear to be front runner to land Red Wings Gustav Nyquist. #LGRW - mrpaulish
For a 2nd and conditional 3rd with Detroit retaining 30%. |
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