The big 4 D prospects? Joki, Boqvist, Beaudin and who is the 4th?
- z1990z

If bowman sells off a top end prospect, pick, or a top young player on the big club, he should be beaten with a stick. This team is NOT 1 move away from being a cup contender. Nothing should be done to mortgage the future, unless it's a move that brings in a young proven NHL asset who can help expedite the rebuild.

That's why I would be very hesitant to give up on 40/56 as I think as this team starts to escalate back towards the upper echelon those guys will be needed and are cheap and should fit into their roles as time goes on.

If bowman doesn't move any piece, I am perfectly OK with that come Monday at the deadline. Regardless of 4 points or 0 points this weekend.

If you were Columbus' GM would you make that trade? I wouldn't.
- paulr

I wouldn't make it from Bowman's side either.

Laz says the big 4 d prospects are not untouchable. says 2 and 7 do not want to move. of those I would guess boquist would be the one. mostly because of how far away he is.
- kmw4631

He's not saying much. No one is untouchable on any team if the price is right. The only thing that makes a player untouchable is a NTC or NMC. If there is an offer that Bowman can't refuse he'll make almsot any trade. Hopefully he takes age into consideration when making any moves.

I think everyone would appreciate it if your posts weren't so set in stone. None of us know what the front office is thinking or who they are taking calls on.

The only difference between us and people like LeBrun and Friedman, et al. are a couple of low level employees and the first text from a FO. Other than that, we're all full of poop and are trying to have fun figuring out what to do.
- CanOCorn

I hear what your saying , and at least I respect how you showed respect in your response.

We can all agree everyone is spitballing and putting out any info they have read . We can also agree that everyone has a opinion and those opinions 9x out of 10 seem to be set in stone as well or if someone makes a suggestion or states something people are quick to slander other people just because they differ.

We have all seen in every sport trades and signings that you scream with anger or joy .

Hawks should have ponied up DeBrincat, Joker, Boqvist, Delia and Koekkoek for him.
- HawkintheD

...included AA, Crawford, Saad, Toews, and Kane too ....

There is no guarantee that Duchene signs with CBJ either. Most of what went to Ottawa was prospects. Just curious, are you thinking that they are not going for it this year, or they are?

Considering there is a lot of games left to be played, there is no guarantee of any particular matchup. Not to mention, I don't think any team would base their moves at the trade deadline on who they would be matched up against in the first round. If you are going for it, you theoretically have to play them anyway (considering they are the "best" in the conference), so what does it matter which round?

Just trying to figure out where you are coming from.
- Chunk

Not sure if they are going balls in this spring- but I do know
losing their top 5 in the NHL goalie on July 1st for no return will hurt.
If they add the Panarin loss July 1st for zilch-o it’s a tough sell to the fan base especially if with Babrosky - Panarin & Duchene they are bounced early by TBay - Washington or whoever.

Therefore - I think it’s why they traded for Duchene & Panarin is moved now.
Guess we will know Monday.

I also know from Doug McLean that Columbus is a great city & although no quarantee I think Duchene signs with the jackets.

Dont be so sure. I can hear Mike Babcock banging on his GMs door now yelling "get me a goaltender and sombody that can score. I dont care if they are Russians and they f$cked up the American elections".
- RickJ

Babcock needs defensemen too. Did you see Gardiner get knocked off the puck so easily for the Caps second goal?

Amazing Columbus is rolling the dice, they are not even a lock to make the playoffs.

Zawaski says the big 4 d prospects are not untouchable. says 2 and 7 do not want to move. of those I would guess boquist would be the one. mostly because of how far away he is.
- kmw4631

I don’t see those as TDL moves, they’d be more off season hockey moves.

I think the argument maybe is "upside". AA has none, does Wennberg? That's what the Hawks scouting dept. would have to determine. It's not like CBJ isn't trying to figure out why that guy hasn't really stepped it up yet.

But Stan snagged Strome, who was playing scrapheap minutes in a lower line role and now he is proving to be a LEGIT 2nd line center.

Trouble is, that 4.9/mya salary is a hard one to "take a flier" on. Not sure if I'd do it honestly. Which makes an AA for Wennberg deal actually interesting from both perspectives. I am NOT a fan of Anisimov at all and would LOVE to move him today, but I also want a "good trade", not just a trade to "get rid of him". Potential or not, I am not convinced Wennberg would be a good guy to get. At at lower AAV salary? Much more interesting.

The risk? Get a player who is mediocre at best, paying 5 million a year to!! Poor play + Cap Hell

The reward? Wennberg delivers and Hawks get a young stud for a mediocre vet and replenishes team with young talent, Hawks rise up the charts.
- kwolf68

Yeah, not gonna happen. Wennberg was given every chance to become a stud when he was given Panarin to play on his wing. Didn't go too well.

Zawaski says the big 4 d prospects are not untouchable. says 2 and 7 do not want to move. of those I would guess boquist would be the one. mostly because of how far away he is.
- kmw4631

I hope not.

Boqvist has the highest ceiling - he would be the last one of that bunch I would want traded. If I had to pick one of those 4 to trade it would be Mitchell - easily. First, there's the threat of him pulling a Kevin Hayes and the Hawks get nothing - but also from a "play on the ice" perspective as every time I've seen him play has been very underwhelming.

Agree and am thinking of how Q got Frolik to buy into a bottom 6 PK specialist role and how well that turned out.

The difference here being at least as a Hawk I don't recall Fro ever lacking for effort but there was a spell where he couldn't seem to have scored in a cathouse with a shoebox full of fifties.

I digress, but that would be great and it's why I would bring him back too.
- HawkintheD

Robert Kraft come on down...lol...

Hey D...should be interesting here at the deadline...even moreso if the Hawks are willing to move one of their prized d prospects.

I hope not.

Boqvist has the highest ceiling - he would be the last one of that bunch I would want traded. If I had to pick one of those 4 to trade it would be Mitchell - easily. First, there's the threat of him pulling a Kevin Hayes and the Hawks get nothing - but also from a "play on the ice" perspective as every time I've seen him play has been very underwhelming.
- EbonyRaptor

Having see all those guys play I'd agree on Boqvist having the highest ceiling but I think Mitchell may be the most NHL ready and will be the safest bet to make the Hawks and stay in the NHL because he has a sound two way game.

If bowman sells off a top end prospect, pick, or a top young player on the big club, he should be beaten with a stick. This team is NOT 1 move away from being a cup contender. Nothing should be done to mortgage the future, unless it's a move that brings in a young proven NHL asset who can help expedite the rebuild.

That's why I would be very hesitant to give up on 40/56 as I think as this team starts to escalate back towards the upper echelon those guys will be needed and are cheap and should fit into their roles as time goes on.

If bowman doesn't move any piece, I am perfectly OK with that come Monday at the deadline. Regardless of 4 points or 0 points this weekend.
- SteveRain

The only real way that I would understand it would be when you look at our current contracts, there are two that apparently are not going anywhere (2,7) and you end up with a logjam of players and nowhere to play them. if you can move one of the stockpile of d-men for real asset for now and the future, I'm fine with it.

That said, if they do it for Stone or Panarin, I'm sending my laundry bill to 1901 W. Madison because I'll crap myself in anger.

Babcock needs defensemen too. Did you see Gardiner get knocked off the puck so easily for the Caps second goal?
- paulr

I saw it. Babcock knows what he sees too. Unless the playoffs becoming a non contact game, the Leafs are in trouble with that defence group.

If bowman sells off a top end prospect, pick, or a top young player on the big club, he should be beaten with a stick. This team is NOT 1 move away from being a cup contender. Nothing should be done to mortgage the future, unless it's a move that brings in a young proven NHL asset who can help expedite the rebuild.

That's why I would be very hesitant to give up on 40/56 as I think as this team starts to escalate back towards the upper echelon those guys will be needed and are cheap and should fit into their roles as time goes on.

If bowman doesn't move any piece, I am perfectly OK with that come Monday at the deadline. Regardless of 4 points or 0 points this weekend.
- SteveRain

If we get 4 this weekend and Craw comes back healthy, something tells me Bowman makes a splash Monday.

And no, it won’t be a rental splash either. I think it’ll be for a [surprise] player that’s still under term.

Not advocating I want to go down that route, but just a hunch. Let’s not forget McD is in the business of selling tickets.

DD:

Now that Duchene is off the market teams will dial in on Kevin Hayes. Sources says a few teams have inquired about trading for both Hayes and Zuccarello. #aggressive

Thanks for the update


Does it seem a bit fishy that Seabrook name was mentioned a month ago about getting traded, and right before the deadline he has abdominal pains?

Is Seabrook really injured or is he merely putting a injury to derail any chances Chicago could have a taker for him?
- Taylorst1

Or is there a deal in process that he would agree tonand (under the banner of secrecy) and they are holding him out to protect against an injury.

Or he is really injured.

I vote for the latter - sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

If bowman sells off a top end prospect, pick, or a top young player on the big club, he should be beaten with a stick. This team is NOT 1 move away from being a cup contender. Nothing should be done to mortgage the future, unless it's a move that brings in a young proven NHL asset who can help expedite the rebuild.

That's why I would be very hesitant to give up on 40/56 as I think as this team starts to escalate back towards the upper echelon those guys will be needed and are cheap and should fit into their roles as time goes on.

If bowman doesn't move any piece, I am perfectly OK with that come Monday at the deadline. Regardless of 4 points or 0 points this weekend.
- SteveRain

Maybe his thought is to move one of the D prospects for a Top 6 prospect or 2. That is a trade for the future.

I think everyone would appreciate it if your posts weren't so set in stone. None of us know what the front office is thinking or who they are taking calls on.

The only difference between us and people like LeBrun and Friedman, et al. are a couple of low level employees and the first text from a FO. Other than that, we're all full of poop and are trying to have fun figuring out what to do.
- CanOCorn

Not sure where this thread started, but not sure saying someone’s post shouldn’t be so set in stone is the real issues. I don’t care whether someone is clearly stating an opinion or explicitly stating it’s my way or the highway rhetoric

Every time I come here I am reading post that can be good or bad, learned or ignorant, or literate or incoherent. I never lose sight of the fact that no one has any more or less right than me to express their opinion, regardless of how they phrase and tone it.

If I see something I don’t like or a post by someone I don’t enjoy reading/interacting with, I just move on to the next post. But I always feel each poster is free to express him or herself (a pleas to get L_B_R back her) in whatever manner works for them.

DD:

Now that Duchene is off the market teams will dial in on Kevin Hayes. Sources says a few teams have inquired about trading for both Hayes and Zuccarello. #aggressive
- mrpaulish

You have sources too?

Dominoes!!!!

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Here's a little nugget on the Duchene deal: Matt Duchene's agent is Pat Brisson, who also represents Seth Jones, Alex Wennberg and Pierre Luc Dubois. Dots to connect here.

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Also Zach Werenski

Dont be so sure. I can hear Mike Babcock banging on his GMs door now yelling "get me a goaltender and sombody that can score. I dont care if they are Russians and they f$cked up the American elections".
- RickJ

Nice! Great line!!

Tracy Myers reporting that Seabrook skated this morning but is out tonight. Joki being recalled in case Dahlstrom can't go.
- EbonyRaptor

They better (frank)ing play him on his right side

Having see all those guys play I'd agree on Boqvist having the highest ceiling but I think Mitchell may be the most NHL ready and will be the safest bet to make the Hawks and stay in the NHL because he has a sound two way game.
- paulr

yeah but you think Perlini could become a PK guy. He has no clue out there.