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Forums :: Blog World :: Jan Levine: Game 60: MiN 4 NYR 1, Zucc, Hayes & McQuaid play as trade rumors swirl...
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tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 22 @ 9:01 PM ET
If the Rangers do not complete a trade of any of their UFA's by midnight Friday, the odds are that nothing major outside of McQuaid being dealt will likely occur until the earliest at least late afternoon Sunday after their day game at Washington.
That's due also for one reason in Calgary being greater interested now in acquiring Hayes, in possibly feeling that his one time buddy known as "Johnny Hockey" could convince him to sign there long term. The other reason is that Calgary could also be interested in a package of Hayes coming along with Zucc, (who they had first interest in for about a month or so), depending on who they also may want the Rangers to accept in part as return off their own roster. That could increase the two's values received from any team if traded together or separately.
The Rangers could also be delaying on trading either for reasons of hoping Ottawa officially does something with Stone by tomorrow at the latest. If so, that could even further up the trade value of Hayes and Zucc from some desperate teams, with Gorton having said a few days ago that they would wait as long as possible until satisfied with a return versus it better to re-sign them. However, with word yesterday that Rangers contract negotiations were not close with either, that could have for now temporarily lowered offers from certain teams.

- RangerSaver

What site did you steal this from?
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Feb 22 @ 9:07 PM ET
Saver, for the love of god...this is not year one. Was I comatose for a year?

Gortan even stated in the sporting news it’s started with the Stepan trade.

Rebuilds start with a certain draft and draft picks, nothing else matters. They started to trade off assets with Stepan, and haven’t stopped...

2017 it starts- Andersson and Chytil (one via acquisition-that alone signals the intent, TO AT LEAST, start the rebuild)

2018- Kravtsov, Miller and Lundkvist (2 vis acquisitions)

2019- they have there own and probably at least one more

This is the 3rd draft coming up during said rebuild, 2 full NHL seasons...it’s either 2 or 3 years, depending how you judge the NHL year to end and begin. I believe it starts at the draft of a said year. 3 drafts, 3 years of rebuilding.

You one year people are nuts I’m sorry

In fact, if people will recall, that team was not supposed to go far at all in 2017-18. Smoke n mirrors produced a decent first half and we all knew the shots against would catch up to them. They were no way near contenders that year at any point because we all knew they would continue to sell off guys (ie-Nash, Mac, etc)

Signing a Shatty has no bearing if it’s a rebuild or not, it’s one damn player and Stepan needed to be traded for sure, but they got 0 NHL ready talent in that trade in order to compete last year. Zero. Deangelo wasn’t good enough yet to even be in the NHL basically, he played 32 games and not well

Rant over...This is making me crazy

- Slimtj100


Hey tj, maybe I should have technically worded it as being Full Season 1 of their rebuild. I respect and can see your way of looking at it. However, they did view themselves as a Cup contender going into last season. Furthermore, besides their player moves after the disappointing 2nd Round loss to Ottawa in 2017, they brought in Ruff that July, to not only be an assistant coach, but also a shadow and worry lurking over A.V. in case things became even worse, whereby he would replace A.V.

Then after last mid season, they announced the rebuild and began selling earnestly, after realizing at some time earlier they had misjudged themselves to be a Cup contender. Remember also that Ruff was given consideration to be their new head coach starting 2013, before choosing A.V. over him, whereby Ruff was hired by Dallas as their head coach.

It's not to make you go crazy, but rather that I have always viewed it in that means, or else no college coach would have replaced A.V. Have a great weekend, provided also that any trades they complete won't make you go crazy.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Feb 22 @ 9:24 PM ET
Hey tj, maybe I should have technically worded it as being Full Season 1 of their rebuild. I respect and can see your way of looking at it. However, they did view themselves as a Cup contender going into last season. Furthermore, besides their player moves after the disappointing 2nd Round loss to Ottawa in 2017, they brought in Ruff that July, to not only be an assistant coach, but also a shadow and worry lurking over A.V. in case things became even worse, whereby he would replace A.V.

Then after last mid season, they announced the rebuild and began selling earnestly, after realizing at some time earlier they had misjudged themselves to be a Cup contender. Remember also that Ruff was given consideration to be their new head coach starting 2013, before choosing A.V. over him, whereby Ruff was hired by Dallas as their head coach.

It's not to make you go crazy, but rather that I have always viewed it in that means, or else no college coach would have replaced A.V. Have a great weekend, provided also that any trades they complete won't make you go crazy.

- RangerSaver
you have ruined my weekend
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Feb 22 @ 9:41 PM ET
you have ruined my weekend
- Slimtj100

everyone involved in this discussion should be permabanned and strongly consider harakiri
Blueshirts16
New York Rangers
Location: Rangers Sweep Icelanders...go , NY
Joined: 07.28.2009

Feb 22 @ 9:46 PM ET
If the Rangers do not complete a trade of any of their UFA's by midnight Friday, the odds are that nothing major outside of McQuaid being dealt will likely occur until the earliest at least late afternoon Sunday after their day game at Washington.
That's due also for one reason in Calgary being greater interested now in acquiring Hayes, in possibly feeling that his one time buddy known as "Johnny Hockey" could convince him to sign there long term. The other reason is that Calgary could also be interested in a package of Hayes coming along with Zucc, (who they had first interest in for about a month or so), depending on who they also may want the Rangers to accept in part as return off their own roster. That could increase the two's values received from any team if traded together or separately.
The Rangers could also be delaying on trading either for reasons of hoping Ottawa officially does something with Stone by tomorrow at the latest. If so, that could even further up the trade value of Hayes and Zucc from some desperate teams, with Gorton having said a few days ago that they would wait as long as possible until satisfied with a return versus it better to re-sign them. However, with word yesterday that Rangers contract negotiations were not close with either, that could have for now temporarily lowered offers from certain teams.

- RangerSaver


Where do you come up with this shat
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Feb 22 @ 9:51 PM ET
Where do you come up with this shat
- Blueshirts16

should one cry or laugh - that is the question
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 22 @ 10:02 PM ET
everyone involved in this discussion should be permabanned and strongly consider harakiri
- 21peter

tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 22 @ 10:14 PM ET
Where do you come up with this shat
- Blueshirts16

nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Feb 22 @ 10:31 PM ET
With Hayes I want a 1st and prospect, or a sure thing if its 1 for 1. He could turn into another Yak
- mdw7413

So u want a pick in the 20’s that has about a 45% chance of ever playing over 100 NHL games and prospect(obviously depends who it is) over a former 4th overall pick with tons of talent that just might need a chance of scenery?
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Feb 22 @ 10:33 PM ET
Uh no. Puljujarvi is injured and his season might be done.

@EdmontonOilers
5h5 hours ago
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#Oilers Assistant GM Keith Gretzky says Jesse Puljujärvi returned from the recent road trip with a lower-body injury & is being assessed further this week but will be out for the time being.

- tomburton99

Ya I saw this, helps the tank. He’s done for the year, come back next year and be ready. Kid is extremely talented and helps our lack of depth on the wing. I say roll the dice.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Feb 22 @ 10:35 PM ET
And their 1st? Hayes is better.
- Fenrir

I agree Hayes is better. Ur basically rolling the dice with Puljujärvi being better than a guy drafted in the 20’s with about a 45% chance of ever playing 100 games in the NHL.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Feb 22 @ 10:37 PM ET
So u want a pick in the 20’s that has about a 45% chance of ever playing over 100 NHL games and prospect(obviously depends who it is) over a former 4th overall pick with tons of talent that just might need a chance of scenery?
- nyrangers9479


At this point I think the mid 20s pick has a better chance of success. I’ve said this before: guys like Dylan Strome are the exception and not the rule. Puj looks lost out there. Just because he was taken in the top 5 means zilch right now.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Feb 22 @ 10:40 PM ET
Laughing my ass off here at home, watching Diners, Drive-ins and Dives.
He’s in Jersey at the Bagel Street Grill. They are making a burger with Pork Roll. I really thought it was just you idiots!!!
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Feb 22 @ 11:01 PM ET
Laughing my ass off here at home, watching Diners, Drive-ins and Dives.
He’s in Jersey at the Bagel Street Grill. They are making a burger with Pork Roll. I really thought it was just you idiots!!!

- Tonybere

Haven't watched the show. If you ever come down to the States, definitely try the pork roll, egg and cheese it really is a guilty pleasure. I eat it a few times a year. Never had it on a burger, try it in in it's purest form
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Feb 22 @ 11:06 PM ET
At this point I think the mid 20s pick has a better chance of success. I’ve said this before: guys like Dylan Strome are the exception and not the rule. Puj looks lost out there. Just because he was taken in the top 5 means zilch right now.
- 2sticks1puck

So if you had Puljujärvi right now, you would trade him for let’s say pick #26?
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 22 @ 11:06 PM ET
Laughing my ass off here at home, watching Diners, Drive-ins and Dives.
He’s in Jersey at the Bagel Street Grill. They are making a burger with Pork Roll. I really thought it was just you idiots!!!

- Tonybere

You have lived until you've had a porkroll, egg and chesse on bagel. Little hot sauce, salt, pepper and ketchup.

tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 22 @ 11:07 PM ET
So if you had Puljujärvi right now, you would trade him for let’s say pick #26?
- nyrangers9479

And Hayes. Yes.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Feb 22 @ 11:13 PM ET
And Hayes. Yes.
- tomburton99

Huh?
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 22 @ 11:41 PM ET

@ShawnHutcheon
2h2 hours ago
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League sources telling me #NHLBruins are kicking tires on LA Kings Jeff Carter. Boston also expressing strong interest in NY Rangers Chris Kreider.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Feb 22 @ 11:51 PM ET

@ShawnHutcheon
2h2 hours ago
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League sources telling me #NHLBruins are kicking tires on LA Kings Jeff Carter. Boston also expressing strong interest in NY Rangers Chris Kreider.

- tomburton99

Pass. Keep Kreider around for the rebuild.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 22 @ 11:55 PM ET
@m_bultman
1h1 hour ago
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Filip Zadina will make his NHL debut Sunday


Red Wings might be making moves.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Feb 23 @ 12:01 AM ET

@ShawnHutcheon
2h2 hours ago
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League sources telling me #NHLBruins are kicking tires on LA Kings Jeff Carter. Boston also expressing strong interest in NY Rangers Chris Kreider.

- tomburton99

Charlie McAvoy or not interested
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 23 @ 12:02 AM ET
Pass. Keep Kreider around for the rebuild.
- nyrangers9479

If Boston was willing to move thier 1st, Frederic, Senyshen and Axel Andersson then I'd pay for his airfare to Boston.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 23 @ 12:03 AM ET
Charlie McAvoy or not interested
- Slimtj100

Ok well that isn't happening.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Feb 23 @ 1:56 AM ET
If Boston was willing to move thier 1st, Frederic, Senyshen and Axel Andersson then I'd pay for his airfare to Boston.
- tomburton99

Barzal Connor and Chabot for Kreider.........wait
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