It surprises me, especially if there are so many teams still in it. That means more potential buyers, thus more chances that someone would pay the asking price for a given player.
- 333inthe3rd

A lot of buyers but not many sellers. That's the problem.

Looks like a lot of teams, even those looking to make a splash like NYI, TB, CAL couldn't find a partner; plus those on the bubble didn't seem to like what was out there either.

I think today was pretty smart, as people have said. There was no need, present or future, for big trades. One thing to pay attention to, teams with top talent will be coming up against the cap. There will need to be trades made and players becoming FA's because of this. Bowman was on the cap crunch side the past few seasons, now lets see if he's learned how to operate from the other side. The next year or two could be big. Smart moves adding top end, depth, and letting our prospects develop.
- HawksHype

Yep. Also it can only take a few key contributors in the right roles to really change the dynamic of a team. Give the young coach some time to continue to execute on his vision for the team.

Last year it was claimed that guys would never bounce back, but most of the Hawks core guys are performing better. Kane elevated his game back up. Toews is playing great. Saad is on par with expected performance. Keith has already basically matched his point production from last season and is 39 goals better in differential in terms of his plus/minus. For people that do...hate that stat all you want, but being plus 10 is better than -29. A swing like that isn't meaningless.

For Keith that point production is up in a big way at even strength with him getting less opportunity and less points via the PP.

The Hawks basically fixed their powerplay in a big way. What if they make some adjustments and start to get a respectable PK?

So basically Seabrook is the only guy who didn't improve year over year. You can maybe say Crawford struggled a bit, but the injuries and defense play a big factor.

If Bowman can pull off more positive moves, the team can move the needle in the right direction. The gap isn't nearly as big as people make it sound.

A lot of buyers but not many sellers. That's the problem.

Looks like a lot of teams, even those looking to make a splash like NYI, TB, CAL couldn't find a partner; plus those on the bubble didn't seem to like what was out there either.
- Justin Lowe

I'm just thinking along the lines of higher demand and lower supply. That should have helped the Hawks if they were inclined to part with a few players.

Maybe I misunderstood what you said below:

"I dont blame Seabs for not wanting to be moved, but he needs to realize how much he is hamstringing the organization."

It felt like to me that you believe Seabs should agree to waive because he is hamstringing the organization? To your point, some did say it was too long and too much money, I thought it was fair for both sides at the time.
- LAHawk

I completely understood your reaction. My stance to back up what I initially said was that, for Seabs, the organization has given him a lot and vice versa, but if there is an offer on the table that makes sense for the team and his personal life I think waiving would be the right thing to do. Now that is very wishful thinking. I never played in the NHL and had my roots planted in a city with one organization, but that's my sentimental spiel

Yep. Also it can only take a few key contributors in the right roles to really change the dynamic of a team. Give the young coach some time to continue to execute on his vision for the team.

Last year it was claimed that guys would never bounce back, but most of the Hawks core guys are performing better. Kane elevated his game back up. Toews is playing great. Saad is on par with expected performance. Keith has already basically matched his point production from last season and is 39 goals better in differential in terms of his plus/minus. For people that do...hate that stat all you want, but being plus 10 is better than -29. A swing like that isn't meaningless.

For Keith that point production is up in a big way at even strength with him getting less opportunity and less points via the PP.

The Hawks basically fixed their powerplay in a big way. What if they make some adjustments and start to get a respectable PK?

So basically Seabrook is the only guy who didn't improve year over year. You can maybe say Crawford struggled a bit, but the injuries and defense play a big factor.

If Bowman can pull off more positive moves, the team can move the needle in the right direction. The gap isn't nearly as big as people make it sound.
- breadbag

Hard to imagine the Hawks being able to contend with a $7mil 3rd pair dman on the roster, given the Cap Commitment to Kane/Toews.

I'm just thinking along the lines of higher demand and lower supply. That should have helped the Hawks if they were inclined to part with a few players.
- 333inthe3rd

It was a buyers market this year clearly. There were guys available and not enough legit buyers, so the prices weren't so high. Nobody was giving away a 2nd and a 4th conditional to a 3rd) for Kimmo Timonen.

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Blackhawks didn't make any last-minute trades, source says. So, nothing today for the Hawks.
- mrpaulish

Perfect, can continue with building the club up. If we couldn't win in 2016 with rentals no (frank)ing way we could this year.

Hard to imagine the Hawks being able to contend with a $7mil 3rd pair dman on the roster, given the Cap Commitment to Kane/Toews.
- EnzoD

Yeah, but at this point they also will have a 40 goal scorer making less than a mil.

Yep. Also it can only take a few key contributors in the right roles to really change the dynamic of a team. Give the young coach some time to continue to execute on his vision for the team.

Last year it was claimed that guys would never bounce back, but most of the Hawks core guys are performing better. Kane elevated his game back up. Toews is playing great. Saad is on par with expected performance. Keith has already basically matched his point production from last season and is 39 goals better in differential in terms of his plus/minus. For people that do...hate that stat all you want, but being plus 10 is better than -29. A swing like that isn't meaningless.

For Keith that point production is up in a big way at even strength with him getting less opportunity and less points via the PP.

The Hawks basically fixed their powerplay in a big way. What if they make some adjustments and start to get a respectable PK?

So basically Seabrook is the only guy who didn't improve year over year. You can maybe say Crawford struggled a bit, but the injuries and defense play a big factor.

If Bowman can pull off more positive moves, the team can move the needle in the right direction. The gap isn't nearly as big as people make it sound.
- breadbag

Further to your point, if their bounce back players maintain this year's performance and Seabs finds a way to bounce back, and the young'uns continue to improve, this team is not that far from contender status. Given league-wide parity. At that point, one or two guys coming in makes a huge difference.
What if their PK regains the shortie threat again?

You have to love John Tortorella! A reporter put his phone on the podium to record his presser:

https://twitter.com/bluej.../1100140802418896898?s=21

I completely understood your reaction. My stance to back up what I initially said was that, for Seabs, the organization has given him a lot and vice versa, but if there is an offer on the table that makes sense for the team and his personal life I think waiving would be the right thing to do. Now that is very wishful thinking. I never played in the NHL and had my roots planted in a city with one organization, but that's my sentimental spiel
- nickmo2699

I understand, I would think if Seabs and Keith decided to waive, it would be in the offseason where they would have time to adjust.

It was a buyers market this year clearly. There were guys available and not enough legit buyers, so the prices weren't so high. Nobody was giving away a 2nd and a 4th conditional to a 3rd) for Kimmo Timonen.
- breadbag

I guess you're right, considering what Stone would have gotten in a bona fide seller's market. And the (apparently faulty) logic of if John Scott got a 5th, what would Kruger or Hayden get now?

Hard to imagine the Hawks being able to contend with a $7mil 3rd pair dman on the roster, given the Cap Commitment to Kane/Toews.
- EnzoD

Not if 2 or 3 of the other Dmen are on entry level deals

Further to your point, if their bounce back players maintain this year's performance and Seabs finds a way to bounce back, and the young'uns continue to improve, this team is not that far from contender status. Given league-wide parity. At that point, one or two guys coming in makes a huge difference.
What if their PK regains the shortie threat again?
- 35Tony0

I will settle for them not having a 30% success rate against them

You have to love John Tortorella! A reporter put his phone on the podium to record his presser:

https://twitter.com/bluej.../1100140802418896898?s=21
- walleyeb1

That is perfect!!

Something to ponder. Bowman got better value in trading Hartman than Philly did in trading Simmonds.

Kahun and Debrincat are both signed through next season. I think most of your posts are a little crazy and not supported by fact. Maybe others do too. All I ask is that you look up some data before posting.
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- -Doh-

If for no other reason than he doesn't know how commas work.

Q1- Yes
Q2- Yes. Hes the HC. His job is to implement the system- unless now the front office is in the locker room making group decisions on how to run the team now that Q is gone..which very well may be the case too
- PatShart

Ok, no need for further discussion.

If for no other reason than he doesn't know how commas work.
- tyweb69

I want to eat Grandma.
I want to eat, Grandma.

Punctuation can save a life.

I want to eat Grandma.
I want to eat, Grandma.

Punctuation can save a life.
- scottak

Or keep you from creepy territory.

Interesting that the Wild are in a wild card position and traded their 2nd leading scorer who had a year remaining on this contract (Granlund) which probably means they're throwing in the towel, but they didn't trade Staal who is UFA after this season.

Interesting that the Wild are in a wild card position and traded their 2nd leading scorer who had a year remaining on this contract (Granlund) which probably means they're throwing in the towel, but they didn't trade Staal who is UFA after this season.
- EbonyRaptor

IIRC, Staal's NTC included teams that were considered contenders this season to effectively block where he would go. Ek had something about the Bruins for Staal but he blocked it. But then, its EK. I didn't read it so I am not sure if was relaying something from a reliable source's tweet.

15 minutes away from the trade deadline Its quite shocking that this team isn't a playoff team and barely a 500 level team.

Sure this team has had a nice little run , however reality is , Delia needs more grooming , they lack size and skill upfront , and the defense is awful.

I do hope Stan can between now and July 1st clear enough salary and get down to business with some impactful free agency signings.

I'd like to see either Keith or Seabrook moved , but that's wishful thinking.

Stan should tender a offer sheet to trouba, go after Anton stralman, and stone.


Maybe trade Gustafson to move up in the draft
- Taylorst1

What are you talking about a .500 team. They’ve lost 11 more games than they won. This team is not good and does not belong in the playoffs

Penguins loading up on all the bad D-men. Hawks could have helped them out there.

Think a healthy Crawford would have stopped at least one of those goals on both nights on a spectacular save to have allowed us to take one or both of the games. The key is healthy as I'm not sure he's been 100% since returning.
- Popsghostly

2015 Crawford, yes. The Crawford we saw before his latest concussion had troubles too.