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Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Mar 2 @ 3:08 PM ET
Quiet leaders don't have the need to make themselves visible. They lead with their example and spirit. The hurt of losing Armia is one that has taken this team a long time to heal from.
- TheUltimateJet

Disagree 100%
BWJumper
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Mar 2 @ 3:11 PM ET
You are assuming we can keep Myers , Chiarot and Tanev. I say Myers is worth $6.5 MM in the FA market, Tanev is worth $2.3 MM , and Chariot is worth $3.0 MM. I'm not entirely sure we can afford to keep any of them without trading Kulikov. Trading Trouba frees up some money though to sign Myers.

I'd really like to keep Tanev because he does just so many things right. I rarely if ever see Tanev make a mistake or the wrong play. Always first guy in ( and usually first on the puck), and first guy back. I saw Brendan Lemieux as his replacement if we couldn't sign Tanev but now that option has disappeared. Appleton is the only other guy who can fill that role on this team....maybe Little (but at $3.0 MM more).

The one thing on Myers is I get the feeling he wants to stay but I think Chevy is waiting to see the offers on Trouba in the off-season first. It might be a costly mistake not to extend him before July hits and the FA bids start flying in. I doubt there are many teams that won't want Myers with the exception of Tampa, Calgary, Nashville, and Carolina.

- jetsnation


Everything is speculation at this point. I'm just filling out the roster, with what i think Maurice wants his roster to look like.

Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Mar 2 @ 3:11 PM ET
Charlie. I'd say its a 95% chance that Trouba is traded in the off-season while we can get value for him. Last night was a good example of Trouba's season to date. Thats horrible pass immediately followed by a coma where he stood there staring instead of picking up the open man. I've lost count this season of how many times he has done the exact same thing. Luckily a lot of times Morrissey bails him out. He's a just above average defenseman. He also doesnt quarterback the PP very well.

Myers keeps showing flashes of his fantastic performance in last years playoffs. When the Jets were down 0-2 he really stepped up his intensity, laid down a nice hit and then was very aggressive in the O-zone. You could just see the fire in his eyes. You see that also in Morrissey and Buff and even Chariot. I'd love to see more of that in Trouba . Myers has had maybe one off-game in the last 40. Its been an outstanding season for him. Myers zone exits and tape to tape passes have been excellent and there is no one better at magically keeping the puck in the O-zone when you think for sure it is heading out. Trouba is in my eyes now 4th on the depth chart and you don't pay a guy that that $6-7MM a season in a cap crunch.

As for Chariot. Some guys are knocking him on here but he seems a lot faster out there, he is playing with confidence, he's aggressive he has opponents thinking twice about going near him , and he's even showing an offensive flair.

As for Hayes. Yes, 3 pts, but most of those were secondary assists of empty net stuff. I'm not sold quite yet . Definitely slow but seems to be very good defensively. He knows how to protect the puck as well. Counter that with someone like Appleton who has tremendous speed and also very good on the boards. Its not a huge difference but I can see that Hayes is definitely better overall and more experienced.

Hendricks is the invisible factor that we really never see but the players seem super happy at him being back.... and that speaks volumes. No problem, take our 7th rounder for a glue guy like that. I can't imagine what the convo was in Minnesota when the GM is trading away Boudreau's favourite player in Hendricks as well as Granlund and basically throwing in the towel while Boudreau is guaranteeing they make the playoffs.

- jetsnation

This is one thing ill never agree with you on.
I’m sorry but Myers is not close to the player Trouba is. Yes Trouba had a horrible give away that caused a goal but aside from that Was clearly our best d by a mile.
Maurice absolutely knows this to as look at the minutes played 26 vrs 19.
Myers and Kuli being on the ice for what 33 of the 47 shot attempts against says all you need to know. Myers and Kuli are tire fires in our end. Blame Trouba all you want for the one goal but Myers and Kuli are at fault for so many more.
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Mar 2 @ 3:43 PM ET
This is one thing ill never agree with you on.
I’m sorry but Myers is not close to the player Trouba is. Yes Trouba had a horrible give away that caused a goal but aside from that Was clearly our best d by a mile.
Maurice absolutely knows this to as look at the minutes played 26 vrs 19.
Myers and Kuli being on the ice for what 33 of the 47 shot attempts against says all you need to know. Myers and Kuli are tire fires in our end. Blame Trouba all you want for the one goal but Myers and Kuli are at fault for so many more.

- Ross77


I wonder if it would be like this if Myers had a different partner? I mean he has been pretty durable and provided some good offense but the Kuli combo seems to have run its course, but I wonder what a Myers Niku pairing for a game would look like? Would that be diastorus?

I am sorry, but I think Poolman should be up in this stretch to get a few games in and Kuli needs to watch a game or two.
jjonah
Location: winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.25.2013

Mar 2 @ 4:26 PM ET
I’m in the Trouba gets traded camp but I’d rather sign him for 7 years.

Don’t be shocked if he goes to Detroit and we are picking top 5.

Myers, Chariot and Tanev all looking at raises with Chariot and Tanev really jumping.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Mar 2 @ 6:42 PM ET
Disagree 100%
- Ross77


Which part?
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Mar 2 @ 6:51 PM ET
I wonder if it would be like this if Myers had a different partner? I mean he has been pretty durable and provided some good offense but the Kuli combo seems to have run its course, but I wonder what a Myers Niku pairing for a game would look like? Would that be diastorus?

I am sorry, but I think Poolman should be up in this stretch to get a few games in and Kuli needs to watch a game or two.

- CharlieDog


Myers is under lots of stress because he has not signed his extension with the Jets. The Jets made sure that Little and Wheeler were signed the year before their free agency so they wouldn't feel stressed. It's amazing that he's showing so much more resilience than Little and Wheeler as it appeared not having a contracts for them would have weighed heavily on them all season.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Mar 2 @ 7:51 PM ET
I’m in the Trouba gets traded camp but I’d rather sign him for 7 years.

Don’t be shocked if he goes to Detroit and we are picking top 5.

Myers, Chariot and Tanev all looking at raises with Chariot and Tanev really jumping.

- jjonah


Rumour on TSN1290 is that Trouba is looking for 8 million plus.
Hillier9
Joined: 03.02.2019

Mar 2 @ 8:34 PM ET
Bross should play half of the stretch games in da twine- his exceptional glove hand and squareness to the shooter are better than the Buckster are reasons for me to say this.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Mar 2 @ 8:52 PM ET
I wonder if it would be like this if Myers had a different partner? I mean he has been pretty durable and provided some good offense but the Kuli combo seems to have run its course, but I wonder what a Myers Niku pairing for a game would look like? Would that be diastorus?

I am sorry, but I think Poolman should be up in this stretch to get a few games in and Kuli needs to watch a game or two.

- CharlieDog

I have no problems with both suggestions
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Mar 2 @ 8:54 PM ET
I’m in the Trouba gets traded camp but I’d rather sign him for 7 years.

Don’t be shocked if he goes to Detroit and we are picking top 5.

Myers, Chariot and Tanev all looking at raises with Chariot and Tanev really jumping.

- jjonah

Their number one pick and one of veleno, zadina, Cholowski or Rasmussen could be the return
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Mar 2 @ 9:07 PM ET
Their number one pick and one of veleno, zadina, Cholowski or Rasmussen could be the return
- Ross77


What about Zadina and Anthanasiou?
BWJumper
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Mar 2 @ 9:08 PM ET
Their number one pick and one of veleno, zadina, Cholowski or Rasmussen could be the return
- Ross77


That's Ottawa Sens fans dreaming right there.
Detroit rebuilding they need more than Trouba no way they trade a top 5 pick
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Mar 2 @ 9:48 PM ET
That's Ottawa Sens fans dreaming right there.
Detroit rebuilding they need more than Trouba no way they trade a top 5 pick

- BWJumper

Ross77 is a dreamer. He told me he was a John Lennon fan, when I saw him. “Imagine all the people.....”
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Mar 3 @ 4:40 AM ET
Little is making roughly 5 mil per. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. This is market value and he would have been paid this here or anywhere. When you think of how the RFA’s this summer are making salaries climb higher than they should this is not a horrible contract. Little can be a top 6 winger or 2nd-3rd line Center. His stats back this up. Why the hate for him? For every example you can find he is over paid, I bet I can find twice as much where he is not.
- Ross77


He’s in year 4 of decline, at 31, and has a 6 year deal. If he’s worth it now (he isn’t), he won’t be very soon
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Mar 3 @ 4:56 AM ET
If we’re doing roster talks, there’s a few noteworthies:
-All of our UFAs are gone. Myers, Tanev, and Chairot are all immediately replaceable, and will be massively overpaid. Especially Myers.
Also, dump Kulikov by any means necessary.

-Roslovic is likely never an NHL center. He’s been sub-Hendricks in his stints there, and we already have a 2C (Lowry). Roslovic is actually the most likely to be traded out of anyone on the roster. Connor being in 2nd.

-Niku and Poolman need to be full timers next year, as does Vesalainen.

-Samberg and Stanley are not close. Nic Petan is still more likely to make the Jets next year than Logan Stanley.

My hypothetical, chaos lineup:

Vesalainen-Scheifele-Laine
Connor-Lowry-Wheeler
Perreault-Little-Ehlers
Dano ?-Copp-Appleton?

Morrissey-Trouba
Niku-Byfuglien
(28 trade)-Poolman

Hellebuyck
Broissoit
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Mar 3 @ 4:58 AM ET
Dragging this over from the previous blog.

So assuming Rexy is not making this up and there is some truth to this, it explains Hendriks arrival to help Wheeler in room mediation. Don't forget, he already has two kids at home as well so, just saying......

- CharlieDog


I’m actually hoping it’s not true. The more I think about it, the more I’m convinced Maurice being fired means Chevy is fired, too. There’s been murmurings of a power struggle between them for a while. Chevy has the keys, but Maurice has Chipman
PredManDan
Nashville Predators
Location: TN
Joined: 10.24.2014

Mar 3 @ 8:26 AM ET
https://www.nhl.com/news/...c-305412720?tid=277549076

While I thought the Jets outplayed the Preds and deserved the win, they also has a dirty play committed by Lowry. I don't think the high stick to the face of Forsberg was accidental in any way. I enjoy watching hard nose hockey but plays like that have no place in the game.
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Mar 3 @ 9:15 AM ET
There is lots of talk of pluggin Ros in on 2nd line c and let him develop. The rpoblem I have with that is that he is not kicking the door down on the c position and if the jets are in window to win in the next number of years, can the team afford to wait and let him develop? I don't think so.

We will see how the Hayes experiment goes and if it works, there is a possible option. But, if it does not pan out, then we still have a hole in 2 nd c. Little is not going to get it done going forward, he is a winger and fillin centreman from here on in. Great team guy but his 2c days are looking in the rear view mirror more and more.

Lowry as Rexy suggests, I am not conviced there either. Lowry as 3 c, yes please, 2nd c, not sure about that. If the Hayes experiemnt does not pan out, Ros ain't ready as 2 nd line c and I am not sure the team is going to wait years when the window is a few years.

Rexy, your chaotic roster with Dano on the 4th line,...... comeon. I think you did that just to spur on discussion but that ain't happening either.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Mar 3 @ 10:27 AM ET
I guess with Lowry out for two games there is talk of Par Lindholm playing today. I'd be more apt to move Little to centre and bring Appleton back. I guess we will see what Maurice decides pretty soon. That all being said , it would be nice to see Lindholm play a game and see what he can do.

It's interesting that this may have finally been Petan's chance and he's no longer a Jet. It must have been exciting for him to suit up last night as a Maple Leaf and also score a goal ( game winner) and get third star. I'm happy he's getting some ice time.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Mar 3 @ 1:23 PM ET
There is lots of talk of pluggin Ros in on 2nd line c and let him develop. The rpoblem I have with that is that he is not kicking the door down on the c position and if the jets are in window to win in the next number of years, can the team afford to wait and let him develop? I don't think so.

We will see how the Hayes experiment goes and if it works, there is a possible option. But, if it does not pan out, then we still have a hole in 2 nd c. Little is not going to get it done going forward, he is a winger and fillin centreman from here on in. Great team guy but his 2c days are looking in the rear view mirror more and more.

Lowry as Rexy suggests, I am not conviced there either. Lowry as 3 c, yes please, 2nd c, not sure about that. If the Hayes experiemnt does not pan out, Ros ain't ready as 2 nd line c and I am not sure the team is going to wait years when the window is a few years.

Rexy, your chaotic roster with Dano on the 4th line,...... comeon. I think you did that just to spur on discussion but that ain't happening either.

- CharlieDog



Well said about Roslovic. During Scheifele’s development, there was never a time he played wing. Jets don’t see Roslovic as a centre.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Mar 3 @ 1:25 PM ET
I’m actually hoping it’s not true. The more I think about it, the more I’m convinced Maurice being fired means Chevy is fired, too. There’s been murmurings of a power struggle between them for a while. Chevy has the keys, but Maurice has Chipman
- Rexypoo


Let’s be honest, the brains behind the operation is Heizinger. Cheveldayoff is just the mouthpiece of the organization.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Mar 3 @ 1:27 PM ET
One more thought: Did anyone see that goal by Petan last night? Where was that when he played for the Jets? Makes me question Maurice even more.
ricroc
Location: ON
Joined: 12.30.2013

Mar 3 @ 1:53 PM ET
https://www.nhl.com/news/jets-adam-lowry-suspended-two-games/c-305412720?tid=277549076

While I thought the Jets outplayed the Preds and deserved the win, they also has a dirty play committed by Lowry. I don't think the high stick to the face of Forsberg was accidental in any way. I enjoy watching hard nose hockey but plays like that have no place in the game.

- PredManDan

Hey PredManDan - short memory? Johansson 2 hand tomahawked Scheifele to the head last game. Should have been a match penalty. 2 game suspension. Preds blogger Paul called it "a careless errant stick" Minutes later Forsberg 2 hand tomahawked Scheifele to the face/visor. No call. Just last week I happened to watch the Oilers/Preds where Forsberg struck an Oiler in the face with his stick. The game on the Preds home feed and even the Preds commentators called out Forsberg for the infraction. I agree with the suspensions. Lowry & JOHO got caught. Forsberg got away with it on two occasions. Sh** happens. It's a sign of the hate & rivalry between these two evenly matched clubs.
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Mar 3 @ 2:01 PM ET
Maurice is not going to be fired.
Chevy is not going to be fired.
Roslovic is a good RW prospect, not likely an NHL center.

Can we stop the nonsense and move on ?
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