Maurice is not going to be fired.
Chevy is not going to be fired.
Roslovic is a good RW prospect, not likely an NHL center.

Can we stop the nonsense and move on ?
- bennythehat

You forgot to mention Dano ain't coming back either.

There is lots of talk of pluggin Ros in on 2nd line c and let him develop. The rpoblem I have with that is that he is not kicking the door down on the c position and if the jets are in window to win in the next number of years, can the team afford to wait and let him develop? I don't think so.

We will see how the Hayes experiment goes and if it works, there is a possible option. But, if it does not pan out, then we still have a hole in 2 nd c. Little is not going to get it done going forward, he is a winger and fillin centreman from here on in. Great team guy but his 2c days are looking in the rear view mirror more and more.

Lowry as Rexy suggests, I am not conviced there either. Lowry as 3 c, yes please, 2nd c, not sure about that. If the Hayes experiemnt does not pan out, Ros ain't ready as 2 nd line c and I am not sure the team is going to wait years when the window is a few years.

Rexy, your chaotic roster with Dano on the 4th line,...... comeon. I think you did that just to spur on discussion but that ain't happening either.
- CharlieDog

Did you notice the wink next to Dano? I know you know that I know he won’t be there

Maurice is not going to be fired.
Chevy is not going to be fired.
Roslovic is a good RW prospect, not likely an NHL center.

Can we stop the nonsense and move on ?
- bennythehat

You're right benny.

Having said that why are we still hearing about defensive lapses 5 years into Maurice's system.
Byfuglien, Myers, Trouba and Chiarot were all part of the system versus the Anaheim series in 2015 and Morissey joined the Moose for the 2015-16 season (and they play the same system.)

Yet here we are in 2019 and the media are like a broken record saying Hellebuyck has played great (even though he gives up 3 goals a game), the real problem is the Jets defensive play.
I heard that song back during the Pavelec days

You're right benny.

Having said that why are we still hearing about defensive lapses 5 years into Maurice's system.
Byfuglien, Myers, Trouba and Chiarot were all part of the system versus the Anaheim series in 2015 and Morissey joined the Moose for the 2015-16 season (and they play the same system.)

Yet here we are in 2019 and the media are like a broken record saying Hellebuyck has played great (even though he gives up 3 goals a game), the real problem is the Jets defensive play.
I heard that song back during the Pavelec days
- BWJumper

Hellebuyck has faced more shots than anyone in the league.
I understand a preference for shot quality over shot quantity, at both ends of the ice, but the bizarre emphasis Mo is putting on it is having the opposite effect. Shot quantity always leads to shot quality, eventually. Right now we’re getting peppered from everywhere, including in right, and we’re not shooting enough, with nothing from the slot

One more thought: Did anyone see that goal by Petan last night? Where was that when he played for the Jets? Makes me question Maurice even more.
- TheUltimateJet

You are on a roll lately,
-Armia is the great leader and sole reason we are not as good this year
-Petan scores one goal and again Maurice not finding room for him on a first place team is questioned
-Roslovic HAS to be played at Center cause Shiefele was

Do you see how slightly ridiculous these are? I suspect you do but are trying to stir the pot.

Did you notice the wink next to Dano? I know you know that I know he won’t be there
- Rexypoo

My bad, somehow I missed that, duh...

You're right benny.

Having said that why are we still hearing about defensive lapses 5 years into Maurice's system.
Byfuglien, Myers, Trouba and Chiarot were all part of the system versus the Anaheim series in 2015 and Morissey joined the Moose for the 2015-16 season (and they play the same system.)


Yet here we are in 2019 and the media are like a broken record saying Hellebuyck has played great (even though he gives up 3 goals a game), the real problem is the Jets defensive play.
I heard that song back during the Pavelec days
- BWJumper

Pick a market and you’ll hear the local media harp on the same things there to for many years.
Philly-goaltending
Chicago - age
Toronto - RIght handed D and toughness
Carolina - goal scorers
Ottawa- the trade everyone
As examples

Hellebuyck has faced more shots than anyone in the league.
I understand a preference for shot quality over shot quantity, at both ends of the ice, but the bizarre emphasis Mo is putting on it is having the opposite effect. Shot quantity always leads to shot quality, eventually. Right now we’re getting peppered from everywhere, including in right, and we’re not shooting enough, with nothing from the slot
- Rexypoo

I'm not disputing the assessment of Hellbuyck's play. I'm saying why are talking about defensive breakdowns when 5 of our defencemen have had 4 plus years to figure it out.

He’s in year 4 of decline, at 31, and has a 6 year deal. If he’s worth it now (he isn’t), he won’t be very soon
- Rexypoo

I would list the forwards with less points making more money than little but it would take too long, there are dozens!!!!!!

You are on a roll lately,
-Armia is the great leader and sole reason we are not as good this year
-Petan scores one goal and again Maurice not finding room for him on a first place team is questioned
-Roslovic HAS to be played at Center cause Shiefele was

Do you see how slightly ridiculous these are? I suspect you do but are trying to stir the pot.
- Ross77

Nowhere near as ridiculous as suggesting that Detroit will trade a top 5 pick and Zadina (who's also a top 5 pick) for Trouba.

Armia is a great leader and no one here has been able to prove otherwise. Roslovic didn't even play Center on the Moose. It's clear the Jets don't see him as one.

Armia, Petan, Dano, Trouba trade, Chevy, PoMo, etc etc

Anyone notice we're on the final stretch to playoffs ? ... then The Playoffs

Roster, Management, and Coaching Staff are set until end of Jets hockey this year ... sure, ya can play with line combos and pairings - but everything else - set !

I've suggested resting some guys if PoMo can do it without upsetting the room/ego's ... plug Hendy in here and there so he's a little more than 'Daddy in the Dressing Room' ... I hear we're starting Lindholm tonight as 4C ... understand PoMo wants to check him out ... I woulda put Hendy in there and let er rip

Nowhere near as ridiculous as suggesting that Detroit will trade a top 5 pick and Zadina (who's also a top 5 pick) for Trouba.

Armia is a great leader and no one here has been able to prove otherwise. Roslovic didn't even play Center on the Moose. It's clear the Jets don't see him as one.
- TheUltimateJet

Hahahahahahahaha I have no response, Other than to laugh as I find most of your trades ridiculous but hey It’s all good, we are aloud to throw out our ideas

Hahahahahahahaha I have no response, Other than to laugh as I find most of your trades ridiculous but hey It’s all good, we are aloud to throw out our ideas
- Ross77

I am glad I can make you laugh Ross77. Since we are all laughing, let's talk Trouba. The man has had two chances to sign a long term contract and has taken the team to arbitration. The Jets based on how they have dealt with other players, ie. Little, Wheeler, Kane, Pavelec, Perreault, Byfuglien, Enstrom, Hellebyuck, Ehlers, etc. don't seem like the type of team to short change players on contracts. This idea that Trouba will be here next year is the one that makes me laugh all the time.

Whoever mentioned firing Chevy has lost their mind. This guy built the Jets into a top NHL team through saavy drafting and trading. Why in hell would you ever want to get rid of Chevy ? He's definitely become one of the NHL's top GM's . The Jets are a stacked team because of him.

Well said about Roslovic. During Scheifele’s development, there was never a time he played wing. Jets don’t see Roslovic as a centre.
- TheUltimateJet

A key difference is that during Scheifele‘s time developing the Jets didn’t have any other good options at center

I am glad I can make you laugh Ross77. Since we are all laughing, let's talk Trouba. The man has had two chances to sign a long term contract and has taken the team to arbitration. The Jets based on how they have dealt with other players, ie. Little, Wheeler, Kane, Pavelec, Perreault, Byfuglien, Enstrom, Hellebyuck, Ehlers, etc. don't seem like the type of team to short change players on contracts. This idea that Trouba will be here next year is the one that makes me laugh all the time.
- TheUltimateJet

I have said multiple times I expect him to be moved this summer, hoping not but expecting it.

Whoever mentioned firing Chevy has lost their mind. This guy built the Jets into a top NHL team through saavy drafting and trading. Why in hell would you ever want to get rid of Chevy ? He's definitely become one of the NHL's top GM's . The Jets are a stacked team because of him.
- jetsnation

1000% agree

I would list the forwards with less points making more money than little but it would take too long, there are dozens!!!!!!
- Ross77

Little doesn’t produce all that much for his ice time.
He’s also a drag defensively, and on possession. He also has a visible lack of chemistry with most Jets.

Nowhere near as ridiculous as suggesting that Detroit will trade a top 5 pick and Zadina (who's also a top 5 pick) for Trouba.

Armia is a great leader and no one here has been able to prove otherwise. Roslovic didn't even play Center on the Moose. It's clear the Jets don't see him as one.
- TheUltimateJet

Roslovic played centre on the Moose last season. Petan-Roslovic-Appleton

A key difference is that during Scheifele‘s time developing the Jets didn’t have any other good options at center
- 2.0

Sure I guess the best way to develop a Center is to play him on right wing. Next thing you know, you will be telling me the best way to develop a goalie is to have him play defence or the best way to develop a left winger is to play him on right side defence.

Little doesn’t produce all that much for his ice time.
He’s also a drag defensively, and on possession. He also has a visible lack of chemistry with most Jets.
- Rexypoo

But you know what, he's still better than Roslvic at Center. According to 99% of posters on hockeybuzz.

Sure I guess the best way to develop a Center is to play him on right wing. Next thing you know, you will be telling me the best way to develop a goalie is to have him play defence or the best way to develop a left winger is to play him on right side defence.
- TheUltimateJet

That’s a pretty narrow way of viewing player development. From the wing he can learn all kinds of things about playing in the NHL and even about playing center in the NHL. It will also give him a chance to put a little more meat on his bones.

But you know what, he's still better than Roslvic at Center. According to 99% of posters on hockeybuzz.
- TheUltimateJet

Rexie makes stuff up and cherry picks statistics. He tends to be guilty of overlooking the circumstances that result in whatever analytic that is important to him. For now little is still the better center.

Rexie makes stuff up and cherry picks statistics. He tends to be guilty of overlooking the circumstances that result in whatever analytic that is important to him. For now little is still the better center.
- 2.0

Roslovic is a better skater, he has good quickness, and a decent shot. His day will come. Little is much much better defensively and much better positionally, has good vision, and a very accurate shot. He's much better in the faceoff circle than Roslovic He also has very good hands in tight. Additionally, Little has tremendous experience on his side.

The nod , for now , easily goes to Little although we just don't have enough of a data set on Roslovic to really make a proper judgement call.

As for Littles contract. The $5.2 MM the Jets are paying him will look cheap in a few years as the cap goes up and up. By 2022 when the cap is in the $90-93 MM range that $5.2 MM will be the equivalent of about $4 MM today. Its not really that bad. He can always be traded if its not working out. Nothing to lose sleep over.

Trade you Liljegren and Brown this summer for Trouba?

Lily is a highly touted first rounder and Brown a former 20 goal guy only made expendable by the arrival of Petan.